<p>Does anyone know if admissions standards are different for for French nationals who attend an American high school? Would I be considered Quebecois? Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>What?</p>
<p>What kind of question is this?</p>
<p>If you’re using “French” correctly, then absolutely not. Why would a frenchmen be considered Quebecois? This isn’t the 19th century anymore…</p>
<p>You would be considered Quebecois for tuition purposes - $1500 a year! But your application would be evaluated as an American high school student.</p>
<p>No he wouldn’t.</p>
<p>If he is French, then he is of French nationality – thus point and case, he will be considered as exactly who he identifies himself as: a foreign student.</p>
<p>Well he might. According to the McGill website Quebec and France have some treaty or other that allows French citizens to pay Quebec tuition. ( [International</a> Fee Exemptions](<a href=“International Fee Exemptions | Legal Documents - McGill University”>International Fee Exemptions | Legal Documents - McGill University) - see the France bit). </p>
<p>If you still have your French citizenship you should be able to pay Quebec tuition, however I don’t believe they count you as Quebecois for admission purposes.</p>
<p>Exactly. Applying from a US high school means you’re considered in the US pool applicants. Being a French citizen allows you to get an International Fee Exemption, thus you pay Quebec level tuition but you have to prove your citizenship and fill out the right forms on time. Otherwise you get to pay full international tuition regardless of citizenship or residency.</p>
<p>As a dual French-US citizen, I can attest to exactly what Blobof said. </p>
<p>Here’s the way I suggest you do it: do <em>not</em> tell McGill you’re french until September when you’re getting your ID card and what not. While all that’s happening, bring your French passport with you (it’s your proof of citizenship), and they’ll take care of the rest. </p>
<p>If you do it that way, you’ll get the lenient American admissions process (the administration sets the bar real low for Americans because we’re poor), but then you’ll receive the benefit of “in-state” tuition (which means your program should cost $3300-$3500 / year).</p>
<p>drmambo, do you know if the application actually requires you to list ‘all’ citizenships the applicant has? </p>
<p>Also, I was under the impression that admission standards for US students were actually higher than those for the Canadian students. Perhaps I am wrong about this?</p>
<p>@elksmom: No, you are not mistaken. “drmambo” has no idea what he is talking about, nor any stats to support his statement.</p>
<p>@tom, if by no support, you mean I haven’t done a thorough investigation on every American freshman who entered McGill for the 2007-2008 academic year, then yes: you are correct. </p>
<p>Maybe things have changed since then; however, from what I could surmise (informally) during my time in Rez (upper residences), it seemed like McGill was going easier on the Americans. </p>
<p>And to be fair, this assumption would make a fair bit of sense: McGill is broke, and American’s (internationals, for that matter) pay at least 3 times as much as any other McGill student. </p>
<p>Also, Tom, I’d appreciate if, next time, <em>you</em> throw some stats out there. No one wants this thread to degenerate to a he-said, she-said ordeal. I wasn’t trying to speak matter of factly (sorry if it came off that way), I was merely speaking from my own observations. </p>
<p>@EnsMom: I don’t recall the application asking you to declare all citizenships when I filled it out.</p>
<p>@drmambo: As you say, your assertion that it is easier for Amercans to be admitted to McGill is based on hearsay. Last year I found info on admission rates by origin on the McGill website and posted the link here on CC. I tried to find that site again without success. If I remember correctly, the admissions rates were approxiomately 55% for Quebecers, 45% for out of province Canadians, 40% for Americans and 35% for overseas students. Those figures do not really prove anything though since Canadians do not submit SAT/ACT scores. There is simply no common denominator for comparison.</p>
<p>As for McGill reaping financial benefits from international students, you are making a false assumption. By law, McGill is required to charge and collect out of province and international tuition rates. Until last year, the entire differential collected served to reduce the operating grant that McGill receives from the Quebec government. So McGill received no additional net revenue by admitting out of province and international students. Starting in 2010, Quebec is allowing McGill (and other Quebec universities) to retain a small portion of the intl tuition differential. I believe they keep about $2000 per student. So there is still minimal net gain for McGill to enrol international students.</p>
<p>I found the link! And my memory is good:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.mcgill.ca/files/scap/Fall_2009_SZRAADS1.pdf[/url]”>http://www.mcgill.ca/files/scap/Fall_2009_SZRAADS1.pdf</a></p>
<p>Well assuming what you’re saying about the int’l tuition being true: I’d like to say I’m sorry. </p>
<p>It never occurred to me that the government would punish McGill for enrolling non-quebecois students. </p>
<p>As for your link, you said it right and in few enough words: without more information on the applicants from Canada vs. USA, we have no way of doing any legitimate comparison. </p>
<p>While this business about McGill, only now, being able to profit from out-of-province admits is certainly interesting, it doesn’t help (or hurt) the claim that admission is more selective for Americans.</p>
<p>@drmambo: Apparently McGill does a better job communicating its finances to alumni than to current students. Check into what I said, not other undegrads who will likely be clueless, but someone in the administration. </p>
<p>I never claimed that McGill is more selective with American applicants but I took exception to the claim by you and other posters here on CC that it is easier for Americans and other intls to be admitted than it is for Canadians.</p>
<p>Thanks guys for your info!</p>