freshman dorms??

<p>If 3N was your favorite but you don’t like party dorms, I’d advise reconsidering. Facts:

  • It’s the largest freshman residence in the country
  • Freshmen in general tend to be wild as they get used to the college lifestyle
  • College in Manhattan presents infinitely more opportunities for kids to be wild than any other environment</p>

<p>Add all those together and it gets very … interesting, to say the least. I know that in one weekend in February or March there were three different fire evacuations after midnight between Thurs-Sunday. Two were from weed/cigarette smoke indoors, and one was from a real alarm that went off after the fairly sophisticated detectors indoors picked up the chemical that gets released by an indoors-only fire-extinguisher. How’d the extinguisher go off in the first place? Kids (I knew all of them) wanted to goof off and see what it would do.</p>

<p>I would go visit one friend in particular quite a lot towards the end of the semester. It was never quiet; the suite directly above hers or directly next to hers was always balls-to-the-walls loud. </p>

<p>As for Goddard, if you have any specific questions about the Residential College program or the building itself, feel free to ask me here or PM me. I lived there last year and I’m in Broome Street (the upperclassman extension of Goddard/ResColl) now.</p>

<p>Haha, Hellodocks, I guess it depends on the time you visit and the floor you visit. I gather not all floors are as you described, since my son’s visits to 3N were quite a different experience from what you saw and experienced. You have been a very credible and helpful poster here, so I would advise the readers to heed your feedback from your perspective and experiences.</p>

<p>Kelryry, I am not sure if you are aware of this official NYU site for info and feedback (some pics) on the NYU dorms (all dorms, not just freshmen dorms). I will provide the link, then it depends on which dorm you want info on. I can only comment on Founders (which I have seen and visited multiple times) and I can get feedback from my son re: both Founders and 3N.</p>

<p>Hellodocks is an expert on Goddard, having lived there, so certainly Hellodocks can chime in with personal experience there and maybe other dorms. You need to be more specific about which dorm, since there are so many. I am limited in what I can comment from first hand experience. But here is the NYU link:</p>

<p>[WSN</a> Housing Guide 2010 | nyunews.com](<a href=“http://nyunews.com/housingguide/]WSN”>http://nyunews.com/housingguide/)</p>

<p>Hellodocks, is the community at Goddard really as close-knit as the NYU website makes it seem? And would you mind telling me what stream you were in and describe your experiences with it?</p>

<p>@evolving
First off, thanks for the kind words, so appreciative to hear someone say something like that!</p>

<p>I’ll tell you literally from first-hand experience as a student – whenever there’s an overnight visit or a tour all the kids and RAs are notified in advance. The RAs will actually do their community walks, will shut things down before they get loud/noticeable, and in general police the dorm a bit stricter than normal. It’s an incredible liability bringing a minor or non-registered person into the residential buildings, so they tend to take precautions in advance and during.</p>

<p>The only floors in 3N that are safe (in the sense that you won’t find anything you wouldn’t want your mom to find out about) are the Explorations floors; it’s similar to the ResColl in that you have to complete a specific application to get in before the year starts. In non-exclusive housing (i.e. there are Explorations-themed and normal floors in the same building whereas Goddard’s entire building is devoted to themed housing, therefore ‘exclusive’), however, there is swipe-access in the elevators and stairwells. Basically, you can’t get to an Explorations floor if you don’t live there.</p>

<p>Also, the WSN is not university-licensed at all. It is an entirely independent source. From their own site, it: “is the free, award-winning student newspaper of New York University. All content is editorially independent from the university.” Therefore their figures, statistics, and any quantitative information or content happens to be off a bit; we as students, though we recognize the stellar job they do, tend to take their writing with a grain of salt.</p>

<p>@hayley
Yes and no. At least last year, it was incredibly exclusive. By that, I mean that probably 80-90% of kids in Goddard did not socialize outside of Goddard, creating and perpetuating the stigma the ResColl has of being the ‘nerdly’ dorm. I would bring friends in from my classes or other dorms and the reaction (from both parties) was invariably the same: the visitors would be shocked to see everyone’s door open and half the floor hanging out together in the hall regardless of the time of day, and the Goddardites had this almost laughable ‘omg an outsider among us’ look on their faces.</p>

<p>You’ll definitely experience an inimitably precious bond with your floor-mates. Almost everyone identified with their floor more than anything. Some floors tended to be really cliquey, i.e. my year the 3rd and 5th floors happened to get along <em>really</em> well, doing all kinds of stuff together. 6th and 7th in the same vein, but not to so great an extent. Almost everyone in Goddard will know everyone else in Goddard; out of the 200-ish kids, probably 20 (roughly your floor size) will be in your immediate friend circle that you’re completely comfortable with, 50 will be people you’re willing to do anything anytime with, 100 you’ll know well enough that conversing or interacting isn’t awkward whatsoever, and the rest you’ll know by sight or even name but not much else.</p>

<p>As for streams, I started the year in Global New York. I thought it would be perfect for me, since I’m multiracial, really interested in exploring the ideology of diversity, etc. It ended up not going well, however, because the FA (faculty associate) was a <em>real</em> witch (with a capital ‘b’). The whole point of the streams is to (a) unify the kids around a theme of mutual interest, (b) expose them to New York around said theme, (c) broaden their intellectual horizons, and (d) prod people out of their comfort zones from time to time. Half of the way that’s supposed to get done is through allowing kids to propose their own stream events. This woman not only refused to let student-led events take place, but also refused to schedule her own. It was like she was on a power-trip and then didn’t even use her own power.</p>

<p>I ended up switching to Power of Politics for the second semester, and that was fairly average in terms of programming content and regularity. Nothing super exciting, but not terribly boring either. If I had to recommend anything, it’d be to take the performance-oriented one. My year it was called ‘All the World’s a Stage,’ and it was brilliant – completely-subsidized Broadway shows, random indie concerts or performances, readings, concerts, plays, improv events, you name it, they had it. I ended up stream-hopping to almost all of their events, and I loved it so much that I chose Performance as my Broome stream.</p>

<p>Were you able to tour already? Did you like it? Would you like more info on it? I’m more than willing to help interested kids.</p>

<p>hellodocks,</p>

<p>I think you have mistaken what I shared about my son’s impressions of 3N. His visits there have been ongoing this year as a freshman visitor to the dorm to see 3N friends.</p>

<p>I stand corrected on WSN. I did not realize it was not affiliated with and sponsored by NYU. However, it does provide some good pics and student reviews. That was just meant as a general intro for info on the NYU dorms. That is why I asked Kelryry (and really others) to ask questions about the specific dorm(s) she is (they are) interested in for more personalized feedback on the particular dorm that NYU CC forum members, like yourself, have knowledge of on a first hand basis.</p>

<p>By the way, your description of Goddard was very detailed and informative. Glad you found your way to the performances theme. That sounds tremendous!</p>

<p>@hellodocks, I have already toured it. I went in October and got to see Hayden, Goddard, Weinstein and Rubin. That was before I had done a lot of research on Goddard and chosen it as my top choice though. Honestly, I don’t really remember all that many defining features about the residence halls. I remember the cinderblock/prison feel of Weinstein and the odd random extra broom closet/room in Rubin, and the convenience of the locations of Hayden, Goddard and Weinstein. But as far as the buildings/rooms were concerned, nothing really stuck out at me as really good or really bad about any of the residence halls. But I would love more info :)</p>

<p>What kind of information would you like to know?</p>

<p>I think it’s really unfortunate for you guys that they don’t show you Founders or Third North.</p>

<p>I guess I’m just wondering, from personal experience, what factors kind of make or break the experience in each residence hall (I’m especially curious about Goddard, but definitely not limited to just wanting info on that). Like room size? I’ve heard that Brittany has huge rooms, but what does that mean in context? Is there really that big of a difference in room sizes? What about pros/cons of having a dining hall? Of not having a dining hall? And what about closet space? Is that kind of thing specific to each residence hall or is it just kind of luck of the draw with what type of room you get? And I don’t know, just overall pros/cons of the dorm that I wouldn’t necessarily consider? And how much do those things factor into your living experiences? Sorry for all the questions, I’m just a bit curious haha…I know they’re broad, but any insight at all would be appreciated :)</p>

<p>@evolving
Oh, I’m sorry then. It’s my mistake, I must not have read it carefully enough.
And yes, Performance is incredible, absolutely wonderful. =)</p>

<p>@hayley
Weinstein IS a complete prison. It’s literally the most depressing building ever, I couldn’t have ever lived there happily. I didn’t even like visiting friends there. No one recommends it, and its population is primarily Jewish because of the only kosher dining facility is located in Upstein. Hayden is a great dorm too, Rubin not so much.</p>

<p>Agreed with Ohboi that it’s a shame you can’t see the far freshman dorms. Several of my friends and a current suitemate of mine are admissions ambassadors, and they always moan a bit about how narrow the scope of the tour they’re allowed to give is.</p>

<p>I’ll try to address your individual questions:

  • Room size: having a bigger room means you get more space, plain and simple. However, in Brittany, that almost always comes at the cost of closet space. The vast majority of rooms there are triples with <em>one</em> shared closet, and it isn’t a walk-in.
  • Dining hall: for freshman buildings, I’d actually recommend against it. The ‘insular’ habit is already prevalent enough for first-year students: clam up inside your own building with your friends you met the first week and banded together with out of mutual terror of the unknown, hiding from the world inside your safe little completely self-contained residence. Kids in Weinstein in particular are worst for this. If your classes aren’t far away, you can get food inside your own building, and you feel like you have everything you need, you’ll be far less adventurous of a person. It’s better for people to go out and have to get things rather than stay isolated all the time.
  • Closet space: you want as much as you can get. Even if you’re one of those rarest of girls who doesn’t need a moving van to store her wardrobe, you’re going to acquire stuff over the year. You’re also going to want to keep your stuff out of the reach of that roommate who seemed nice at first but ended up being a total creep, or her creeper boyfriend who’s always in the room at 3am. Simply put, it’s a luxury you shouldn’t ever undervalue. It isn’t something you can necessarily by choosing a specific dorm, but the rooms I was ever in at Goddard, Founders, and 3N all had more than the other buildings.</p>

<p>Too specific? Not specific enough? Let me know if this helps. You should also try to arrange a stay-over visit with someone you know at the school too if you can, that’s simply the best way to ascertain dorm life here.</p>

<p>@hellodocks
LOL. The Weinstien kids are like hermits. Only coming out when they need to go to class. Other than that, I mainly only see them going to or from class, or in Upstien or Downstien. I think they need to get out more. I’m surprised if I see them while they’re doing anything else. You’d be surprised by how much I’m not even exaggerating this. I would hate to live in Weinstien. </p>

<p>As for closet space, I would say Brittany and some rooms in Hayden give the most. Many of my friends in Brittany have walk-in closets. There was this one room in Hayden where they have 3 walk-in closets. Dorm like these, the closet space varies by which room you get. In Founders though, everyone has the same amount of space and the closets are not a walk-in.</p>

<p>@hellodocks and @ohboi, thank you so much! This has been so helpful!</p>

<p>And @hellodocks, about the stayover visit, I wish I could but I don’t know anyone at NYU and even if I did, my parents don’t want to do another trip up there until I know if I got in or not. (I live in Texas haha, it’s a bit of a trip.) But I do find out in 15 days…not that I’m counting. But how long after acceptances come out do you fill out housing and all that? Do you think I’d have time to visit again before I decide if I do get in?</p>

<p>Hayleylisa -
My d is in a triple in Brittany this year and has a huge room, huge closets, lots of space for everything. It was horribly hot the first two weeks because of no AC, but after that it was fine. It is a great location, she has no problem going to several dining halls, and overall it has been a great experience…at a much more affordable cost then some of the other dorms.</p>

<p>Rubin = Cheapest, best people, great location, decent dining hall…but im biased :p</p>

<p>@hayleyelisa:</p>

<p>They wont let you visit the actual dorms before you have to fill out the app (May/June I think is when that happens), trust me I tried last year.</p>

<p>Yeah, SnappleSpice, I think that is why we had to arrange the Founders Hall visit with his friend who lived there before my son’s Housing choice was submitted. This is why I recommended readers here to try to get in through people you know in the dorms.</p>

<p>I had forgotten the lack of helpfulness of the school in this regard. Admitted students understandably want to have a preview of the various dorms before making a choice. I know it involves more work for the school but it really should be included in some of the early tours or sign-ups for overnight visits should be made available for serious candidates to NYU like other good schools.</p>

<p>Wow, that’s so unhelpful…if I had known that, I would have paid a lot more attention to the different dorms when I toured :/</p>

<p>@hayley
I don’t have too much experience, but I did Tisch Summer School this past summer and they put us in Weinstein and I can tell you: it was not fun. We were only there for 4 weeks and I could not wait to get out. However I may be bias because Upstein was closed and the elevators were broken(or loooong lines) most of the time. There is very little space and it is very depressing… but if you plan on being adventurous and not spend much time in your room, it probably wouldn’t be that bad…especially because of it’s location. </p>

<p>@hellodocks
Thanks for your information about parties at 3N…I may have to do some more research, because I really don’t want to deal with parties or drugs at all (though I’m sure it’s tough to avoid). Rubin is seeming to look more appealing. I also have a friend at Founders who just loves it…maybe a kitchen isn’t so important, just a fair amount of space (room for a TV! Hopefully) and minimal partying/drugs.</p>

<p>Just wanted to say I live in brittany and our closet is walk in. its almost as big as my closet back home. and we have a balcony ;D</p>

<p>oh and the location isnt too bad i mean it feels far from like silver and bobst but its not really. i’m just lazy. and its nice cuz its like in the middle between founders/palladium/ third north to say like weinstein or silver. so its kinda nice. and its off of broadway which i kind of like because broadway takes you straight to union square and stuff</p>

<p>@megakel
Trust me, you can deal without a kitchen to live in a dorm as nice as Founders. ;)</p>

<p>Just a word of advice: Don’t be lazy. You’ll have more fun and make more friends. Make the effort to visit the dorms that are “far” (though they aren’t really that far). LOL.
I find it odd that some of my friends literally have not even gone into some of the frosh dorms before, while I visit them all the time. Maybe that’s just me, but I find that I’ve make more friends or know more people because it.</p>

<p>Remember how I said my friend in Brittany had a walk in closet in his suite? Well, the suite actually has 3 walk in closets. Crazy!</p>