<p>There are lots of rumors, so look at common data sets for the facts. The 75th percentile SAT scores at HYP is 790 in each section, and that’s most of the unhooked. Stanford’s is lower because they are not part of the ivy pact not to completely bend over for athletes. </p>
<p>And the deal is just the opposite of what you describe for the unhooked at prep schools. Adcom feel you have had every advantage and more is expected. The matriculation data often looks low at top preps because of the huge numbers of legacies, top URMs, recruited athletes and development.</p>
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<p>I honestly thought I’d heard them all. Totally and completely untrue. You obviously have not met the typical prep school parent.</p>
<p>Top colleges are not picking through for kids who will excel. 70 percent of their applicants will and they will take 3-5 percent of the unhooked.</p>
I heard it straight from a parent of an Andover student actually. It seemed a bit incredulous even to me frankly; I was just throwing the idea out there.</p>
<p>hmom5, some of what you’re saying really can’t be proven and I doubt to be false. Though I hope you are exaggerating. 2310 on the low side for pure merit? God I thought I’ve heard everything. Why would these schools be foolish enough to discriminate between a 770 and a 790? Everyone knows there’s no difference between the scores, and these top schools have admitted it themselves. Also, I do not know where people came up with the idea that you ought to be in the top 25% of test scores as an unhooked candidate. This is coming from someone with top 25% scores, as a hooked candidate at some schools who still got rejected from them. It’s not A+B+C=Chance of acceptance! It’s holistic! Also, no more than 30, okay let’s be liberal, 40% of the class is hooked. So it really betrays everything I knew about college admissions to believe that.</p>
<p>My S’s school (private prep) allows tutoring for standardized tests without teachers’ consent. What school doesn’t permit is tutoring for the school courses without teachers’ consent and direction.</p>