FSU cuts 1000 spots from 2008 freshmen class

<p>On Friday FSU finally made it official - they are cutting 1000 spots in the freshmen class for 2008. </p>

<p>The target is 2000 freshmen for summer and 3300 for fall. Last year 6300 were admitted, this year is will only be 5300. </p>

<p>Numbers will be cut from the low academic (SAT/ACT/GPA) end of applicants still waiting on a decision and serious review will take place of accepted students' final hs grades. </p>

<p>500 spaces are also being cut from accepted transfers and only transfers with an AA degree will be accepted.</p>

<p>????
This is the UF thread...</p>

<p>This reminded me of a joke a friend of mine told me:</p>

<p>What do UF and FSU students have in common: they both got accepted to FSU.</p>

<p>lol!</p>

<p>"What do UF and FSU students have in common: they both got accepted to FSU."</p>

<p>i lol'd,even though i am going to attend fsu.</p>

<p>If they are doing it at FSU they may do it at Florida too. Money is definitely tight.</p>

<p>That is entirely relevant, considering they are the two top tier public schools in the state and were dealt the same budget cuts</p>

<p>If they do it, average scores and GPA should go up. What schools would pick up the slack? In state or out of state?</p>

<p>the schools have to do something to deal with the student/teacher ratio. if you can't hire more teachers (something many have mentioned UF will be doing), then you must cut enrollment which is the path fsu has selected.</p>

<p>hopefully UF will add more professors or cut enrollment. to do neither will only hurt the students and the university in the long run.</p>

<p>with the huge endowment that UF has built, it looks like the time has come to put it to use.</p>

<p>"with the huge endowment that UF has built, it looks like the time has come to put it to use."</p>

<p>That's not how endowment's work. Alumni give money to key programs, and the funding is earmarked for those certain programs. So while UF's billion dollar endowment seems like a bail out fund, it can only be used to support the academic programs that they were designated for when the Alumni gave the money.</p>

<p>If the Undergraduate Program isn't paid for by the state, then it shouldn't be the Alumni's responsibilty to pay for the entering classes. I quite honestly don't think it's the Alumni who should have to pay for the state of Florida's failure to pay for their financial responsibilities. It would be a good idea for UF to also cut the entering classes in the years to come if the state doesn't pony up the money.</p>

<p>Although I agree UF should cut enrollment, with decisions so close to being released, I can't believe they would have time to cut 1,000 students...</p>

<p>The decision would have been made a while back, not now. They could go up the list as far as they want.</p>

<p>This says they are accepting 'around 10,000'. The past couple years, they've accepted around 10.5K. Don't know if this means they are cutting by about 500, or the article is just rounding down. However, they have over 27,000 applications, which will put the acceptance rate at about 37%, the lowest yet.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.alligator.org/articles/2008/02/05/news/uf_administration/admissions.txt%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.alligator.org/articles/2008/02/05/news/uf_administration/admissions.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Yes, but what's the yield? If they accept 500 (or 1000) less, but 2000 more decide to attend (8700 instead of 6700) then what? A lot of people are going to find it financially impossible to attend out of state schools, public or private, and they are going to want to stay in Florida.</p>

<p>This link was posted in the Parents Forum:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/yield_natudoc_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/yield_natudoc_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Florida already has one of the highest yields in the country. Something REALLY drastic would have to happen for the yield to increase by that much.</p>

<p>what is "yield"? the amount of students who enroll after being admitted?</p>

<p>Yes Medwell</p>

<p>Yield is the "popularity" factor. The higher the better.</p>

<p>In the beginning, it's all about selectivity- what percentage of applicants get admitted. The lower, the better- in terms of rankings. </p>

<p>Then, the big gotcha, in terms of rankings, is <em>yield</em>. Because a university can accept, or not accept, whatever percentage- but the yield indicates how much students actually want to to attend. ED plays into it, because by definition, ALL the ED students are going to matriculate. However, UF did away with that, so all bets are off. </p>

<p>With 27,000 applicants though... That's a record. Assuming the yield holds, UF will have something like a 37% acceptance rate, coupled with a 68% yield, assuming the past is an indication of the future.</p>

<p>FL schools are simply over subscribed and overrun right now. I see lots of reports about overcrowding of facilities, students not being able to get into classes they need, packed libraries and cafeterias, larger class sizes etc. They are trying to find ways to deal with it such as eliminating automatic admission to Jr. college transfers and cutting admissions. UF, FSU, USF and UCF are all among the largest schools in the country and each is bursting at the seams. </p>

<p>Frankly, from a strictly academic perspective, I'm concerned that quality is declining and will continue to do so if they don't get their act together.</p>

<p>Bernie Machen says he will not cut UF admissions...I guess we'll see how that works...</p>

<p>UF Plans to admit 10K students, and thinking 6600 of those admitted will actually attend UF. Machen said it was too late for the admissions committee to just cut 1000 spots. They might cut spots for transfer students. All I know is money is tight around here, and the university is trying to see how they can cut another $16millions from their state budget by the summer.</p>