if i get accepted to the university do i get accepted to the business school or do i have to apply separately once admitted?
You apply to the school you are interested in attending (in your case Gabelli) and you are admitted directly to that school.
If you applied RD and put down Rose Hill, then you are admitted to Fordham College at Rose Hill, the original college in the university system.
If you wish to change to Gabelli, they do accomodate some changes, and you need to advise them immediately and see what they say. It wont affect your dorm residence freshman year. But you would need to have the appropriate scores and background to do well at Gabelli.
At any school within Fordham, the best students get the internships and the best students get the permanent jobs. If you are at the bottom of the class regardless of which school you attended, you wont be finding work easily.
Top students from FCRH do very well with internships and jobs, and many of them in business related functions. I also have a bias that my view is college is one time in your life you can explore and grow in areas of personal interest that you likely wont have the time to do indepth as an adult, particularly in the liberal arts. So take advantage of this time in your life to do so.
Its an urban legend that philosophy, english, history and theology majors cant find work. A complete urban legend. They do very well in fact if they have excellent grades. Both for graduate and professional school placement as well as ordinary jobs in the business world.
Not dissing Gabelli at all. Just saying there is more than one way to skin a cat. Good luck
jmerc1212, you can contact admissions to try to switch to applying to Gabelli, but if you feel your application is more likely to be accepted at Rose Hill (lately the business school has had higher scores for admission and they look for high SAT math scores), you can transfer during your first semester. I’m not sure if anything has changed in the last few years but 3 years ago transferring just required 2.7 GPA for first semester, attending a group meeting and getting the transfer form signed by some Deans. You will still be able to graduate on time. The first year courses mostly overlap for both schools.
Depending on your area of interest within the business school you may be much better off transferring in during freshman year. If you graduate with a liberal arts degree in economics and do well you can get some analyst jobs, but if your interest is accounting or finance you’ll need to get an advanced degree on top of your liberal arts degree to get a job.
Fordham is a good school, but it’s not Ivy League, it’s very difficult to graduate with an unrelated degree and get a job in a consulting firm or a corporation. I know of recent graduates at comparative schools with liberal arts degrees and good grades who were unable to find any jobs at all, never mind in an area of interest. If you stay in Rose Hill make sure you have a plan and know where your major could lead you.
^^^ true. But…
the NYT has an article today boasting how a high percentage of new jobs in NYC are not finance/wallstreet related…more in high tech and some service sector jobs.
The other thing is Fordham increasingly draws from other parts of the country and many of those kids choose to return home after graduation and do just fine. Like my kid.
Not all jobs will pay huge salaries to start…but they can be rewarding and offer upward mobility. The job market for everyone is difficult and one has to be assertive, creative and flexible. No guarantees in life. A college degree is not an admission ticket to a guaranteed result. Its a starting point, a commencement if you will. Grades matter.
Some degrees are in high demand. Some less so. But there is always demand for hard working, ethical and creative minds.
Accounting is a good degree and the CPA exam is very very difficult. But can be lucrative.
I am just saying the liberal arts are a frequent punching bag, and that is nonsense…smart kids with effort, creativity and flexibility will find good jobs. (My kid was singled out for all of the above, but also because Fordham caught their eye in the pile of resumes…instead of the usual local schools here.).
Good luck.
The question was about transferring to the business school, so I was kind of trying to answer the question and give the options. I was not talking about all of the possible careers from a liberal arts degree because that wasn’t the question, but in a tough job market any major that doesn’t translate directly to a career can make finding a job very difficult even with good grades.
Thank you Molly12. Sounds like sage advice for the current job market.
I know what you intended Molly. It wasnt a dis at you at all. It was a different perspective and a hopefully cautious word to anyone who thinks that Gabelli is a magical ticket to a lucrative career on wallstreet or a guaranteed job. My point is simple, exceptional students no matter the degree, get the jobs. Its always been that way.
It is axiomatic that a kid with an English degree wouldnt likely apply for nor attain a job in finance on Wallstreet. And not all English majors become high school English teachers. The job market is challenging.
Transferring to Gabelli is a good move for some people. But even they wont have an easy time finding internships or permanent work if their grades are mediocre.
College is about self actualization and broad learning experiences and opening doors. Good luck to all.
Sovereigndebt, I wasn’t taking it as a dis. I was just answering the question with personal knowledge. The OP didn’t say they were looking to get into the business school because they felt it would be the best way to land a job, just that that was the school they wanted. They also didn’t specify their area of interest within business so I don’t know that wall street is where they are trying to head. In my opinion hard work is the best way to a lucrative career no matter what your degree, but if you’re not an exceptional student, a business degree from Fordham can still lead to a job where you can show your value.
I really feel for the kids who aren’t getting the opportunity to show what they can do because the current employment environment is so challenging. Neither a degree from an Ivy League School, nor a business major necessarily translates into a valuable employee, but they can get your foot in the door. No one should major in a business discipline just to get a job, but the good thing about majoring in business at Fordham is that you also are required to take liberal arts courses the first couple of years which may lead some students back to a liberal arts degree while making all of their business students more well rounded.
The other advice I would give current applicants to any college who are thinking that a business degree is something that they might want but they’re not certain is to make sure you enter a university where transferring back and forth is not a difficult task. Some schools make it extremely difficult to do, and then your only choice is to study something else or transfer.