<p>ND Freak, I hope thats not really how you feel. </p>
<p>I go to an all boys private Jesuit school. There are quite a few students especially in my class who have come out on the numerous Jesuit style retreats that we have, ie Kairos and Magis</p>
<p>At, first I was somewhat taken aback... a bit startled, yet I've become much more accepting of their culture as I have gotten to know them. Homosexuality and Heterosexuality are only adjectives, only one aspect of the makeup of that individual. Your preference of sexuality does not determine you as a person, I think sometimes when someone says he/she is gay that is the only thing the other person can think about.</p>
<p>What an incredibly erudite position, citing a Biblical, Old Testament legend in the context of a modern interpretation of the Church's stance. Also, the thinly veiled threat of fire and brimstone raining down on homosexuals, sure to earn you points.</p>
<p>Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Notre Dame supposed to be open to other beliefs, lifestyles, and religions? If you're hoping to impose your beliefs on others who you think are "wrong" (and really, this isn't your place to do that, there's always higher authority buddy), then take your radical views somewhere else.</p>
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Notre Dame supposed to be open to other beliefs, lifestyles, and religions? If you're hoping to impose your beliefs on others who you think are "wrong" (and really, this isn't your place to do that, there's always higher authority buddy), then take your radical views somewhere else.
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<p>Notre Dame is about that, but it also is about Catholic values, and you are going to be held to that here. If that isn't cool with you, then there are lots of other schools. There are Catholic views I disagree with (still struggling with that) but those are the rules here. You are going to have beliefs imposed on you, such as not having sex before marriage (parietals) as well as not using contraception (none will be found at health services). While I agree that 1MX may have been over the top, it is important to point out that you will be held to the rules of the Catholic church here, or at least they will try to hold you to them :). Know that and be sure you are okay with that before coming here...there are things you can do at a public school which simply don't fly here!</p>
<p>irish68178,
I am fully aware of that, being a Catholic attending this fall, and I am more than willing to abide by the rules (as I do struggle with some views as well), but what I was trying to say was that ND doesn't shun students from its school, nor should it do so, and most importantly it doesn't give other students the right to.</p>
<p>My assumption is that 1MX spoke sarcastically, and his/her comments were meant to mock Notre Dame and, more generally, Catholicism. He/she rarely posts in this forum but posts frequently in other forums. If my assumption is correct, it is quite pathetic on his/her part.</p>
<p>So, I'm a bad person now? A question was asked, and I provided a response. I did not bash gay people, although I will any day of the week. The story I talked about actually happened. Look it up.</p>
<p>"I did not bash gay people, although I will any day of the week" -- "So, I'm a bad person now?"</p>
<p>Yes, you are. If you have such hate in you about something as meaningless as sexual orientation that you would bash gay people unprovoked, then you are a bad person, at least as far as I am concerned. In fact I would consider that the epitome of being a bad person.</p>
<p>Not that I really want to throw gas on this fire, but if something as fundamental to human nature as sexual orientation is "meaningless", what then would qualify as being "meaning-FUL"?</p>
<p>Okay nameless. 1. Don't tell me that I'm a bad person. That's God's job. 2. I still have not bashed gay people. 3. Unprovoked, I didn't start this thread. </p>
<p>Why do you care about ND anyway? You're not even Catholic.</p>
<p>Well for starters, I attend ND and love it there. In fact I just got home a couple of hours ago and already miss being there.</p>
<p>And while I realize that you perhaps haven't directly insulted gay people (although that's legitimately debatable), it's easy to infer from your posts that you resent them as a group for some unexplained reason. It's not like I'm the only person who thought that; just go up and look at the other replies. Plus you explicitly stated that "I will [bash gay people] any day of the week". For me being a good person is all about one's attitude toward other people, and since yours is clearly bigoted, I don't think you are a good person. Of course I'm basing that on extremely limited information, but it's all I or anyone in this thread has to go on, and I wanted to let you know exactly how your words make you come across, to me at least.</p>