I was walking by a tour group as the tour guide likened the Geneseo academics to Harvard. I kinda chuckled to myself as I feel that Geneseo’s reputation has been diminishing. And sure the academics are rigorous, but is Harvard really an accurate equivocation? Or is that just tour guides trying to sell people on this school to a comedic extent?
Geneseo was never an ivy LOL That was great marketing on the part of Geneseo. Do not get me wrong, Geneseo is a very good school, but it is no ivy.
I am a parent of a high school sr, and I went to Oneonta and graduated in 1983. Geneseo was no better or worse than Oneonta, Oswego, ETC. What happened in the past 20 years, they imported all of the Yale professors and shipped them over to Geneseo?
Like I said, Geneseo is an excellent school, but sorry to say it is no ivy.
Geneseo is a great school and one of the better SUNY schools. Its much harder to get into than most. I don’t think the school is diminishing in the least. In fact, in recent years a even more super strong students are choosing the SUNYS like Geneseo, Binghamton, and Buffalo due to the affordability factor. Most NYS high school students will not be admitted to Geneseo.
@Empireapple SUNY Genesis is a better school today in terms of students and professors and academic rigor than it was 30 years ago. It is like a small liberal arts college in the SUNY systems However, the school accepted 67% of all applicants last year. That’s higher percentage acceptance rate than most of the SUNYs. In our highly competitive high school in the NYC metro area the acceptance rate is typically about 90%. A few reasons: The applicants are, for the most part, a self-selected group of solid academic achievers who are serious-minded students. So since most of the applicants are qualified they get accepted. And the reason for the high acceptance rate is that the schiol has a low yield–most who get accepted choose to attend elsewhere. The school needs to fill up its class. The location in a very rural setting; the smallness of the school, the 60-40 ratio of girls to guys, the lack of an engineering and computer science program are all factors for the low yield and the need for a higher acceptance rate. But its a good quality school.
my son was accepted to suny geneseo ED. it was a great fit for him.i am hearing amazing things from people i meet who have sons neices nephews who are ther enow. i was very impressed when we went to see the school coming form nassau county on LI most go to binghamton and they accept alot of great students. you definitely need solid grades and scores and extra curricular for geneseo…
Firstly, Geneseo’s student profile is certainly solid, placing the school 186th by standardized scoring when compared to all U.S. colleges:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-610-smartest-colleges-in-america-2015-9
However, why the comparison to Harvard? Harvard is a much larger institution overall, with a much greater ratio of graduate to undergraduate students. In this sense, the comparison seems to mischaracterize both Geneseo and Harvard. A better “aspirational” comparison might be to, say, Kenyon, a school that generally shares Geneseo’s undergraduate emphasis and small-town attributes.
SUNY GENESEO IS MUCH HIGHLY rates than oneonta and gets a very scholastic student.
Oneonta does too but it does not compare to geneseo. oneonta i heard is a big party school
all schools party. i have heard amazing things from recent alumni and those attending now it’s a impressive school and a highly ranked and more affordable option.
suny geneseo is much smaller and the main students that apply there are A students so they accept more sinc ethey get a quality pool. that is what i am told. if you have a low b or mid b you will not be accepted to geneseo
LMAO!
First of all, SUNY Geneseo is a fantastic institution. I was planning on going there myself, but chose UAlbany instead for its stronger business school.
Anyway, whoever compares ANY SUNY school to an ivy league is a fool - SUNY is nowhere close. Even just looking at strictly public institutions, Geneseo isn’t considered a top public. You have universities such as UMich, UVirginia, UCal, Cal Tech, Notre Dame, etc that come FAR closer to an ivy league in terms of ranking than does Geneseo.
I didn’t like how students were bragging about how Geneseo is “the honors college” of the SUNYs… don’t think that there has been an official declaration made by SUNY that Geneseo is in fact the “honors college.” If there was one, I’d say it would more likely be Binghamton.
SUNY Geneseo is great, and I am sure numerous students have attended grad school at ivy league institutions coming from Geneseo… but to compare it to an ivy is crazy. There is a popular list of “public ivys” (googleable) that doesn’t even include Geneseo. Binghamton is an honorable mention, btw.
If your child gets in then the answer is “Why yes, of course!!! They accept only the best and the brightest!!!”
If your child does not get in, then the answer is “Well, of course not!!! They’re not even worth considering!! We sure dodged a bullet there!”
As is so often the case, this one’s in the eye of the beholder.
I don’t think anyone ever seriously compared Geneseo to Harvard. In the 1990’s, it was known as the Harvard of the SUNY system. Whether or not that reputation still applies remains to be seen.
Agree those PR comparisons are pure garbage. I know one school that literally pipes PR over the speakers in some of the university buildings-as if saying it over and over will make it so. SUNYs may be “fantastic”-but they bear no resemblance to Ivys or to the flagships of many state systems. There is a reason for that, They were never meant to compete with private universities. Go back and read about Fred Owen’s efforts and the eventual agreements-they essentially promised mediocrity and set the system up with a fiscal structure that nearly guaranteed that. Unfortunate.
Geneseo is a much prettier school than most of the other SUNY’s. Some are just really ugly. But some pre-existing the SUNY system and so are much prettier.
Is this a joke? No SUNY or CUNY school approaches an Ivy. Nor are the students or profs or facilities or post college outcomes approaching Ivy calibre.
Some consider Cornell University to be the UC Merced of the Ivy League. Everything is relative.
For the latter part of this opinion to be defensible you’d obviously have to overlook overlapping standardized scoring data. As an example, Binghamton’s 75th percentile SAT level surpasses Brown’s 25th percentile level.
https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Binghamton&s=all&id=196079#admsns
https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Brown&s=all&id=217156#admsns
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@Merc81 I think your thought process is flawed. Picking out one random stat and saying Brown’s lowest performers on that stat are the same as Geneseo’s top performers falls far short of suggesting Geneseo students are Ivy caliber. Actually it proves in part the vast disparity not the similarity.
Let’s take your methodology to its extreme… Humans share 99.9 percent of their DNA so all students “overlap” so every human is “Ivy caliber”. In reality its the differences that matter.
Consider this…Brown has approximately 38,000 applicants for 2,500 acceptances. That is an overall acceptance rate of about 6.5%. For students with the lower quartile stats for Brown (who are the top achievers at Geneseo) the acceptance rate plummets to approximately 2% based on previously released stats at Brown. That means Brown can sort through thousands upon thousands of lower stat kids to find the absolute best of the best, and then only accept 2 of every 100.
According to IPEDS Geneseo’s acceptance rate is north of 72%. Geneseo’s top students statistically would be at the very low end of Ivies aplicant pool and would or have l (given the disparity in acceptance rates) faired well and gained admissions.
So in summary, you are only using one stat and using it to extrapolate a conclusion you seek. The reality is some of the lower quartile kids at any Ivy may share some statistical similarities by this one measure with the top end at Geneseo but the similarities end there. Geneseo will virtually auto admit any kid with what amounts to sub standard scores at any Ivy, while Ivies or elite school will have the luxury of selecting those whose stats aren’t representative of their total ability set.
I am sure Geneseo is a great school, but the selectivity, available resources, reputation, and academic experience are no where near those at an ivy or elite no matter how wishful a person is.
I compared Brown to Binghamton in response to comments that referenced SUNYs in general.
If we try again,
SAT profiles are far from a random stat.
Binghamton’s 75th percentile scorers match Brown’s 33rd percentile scorers. Neither figure represents an extreme (i.e., neither “top” nor “lowest”).
Others can reach their own conclusions.
You might want to consider that I arrived at a position, rather than sought one.
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Sorry 40% acceptance rate vs Ivy average around 6%. Selectivity matters that’s my position. Also you are using only one stat (not random but limited) and not considering the totality of an applicants ability. The entirety of Ivy students academic, ECs, test scores far surpasses those of SUNY kids. The average IVY has 2,000-4,000 valedictorians apply per year and only admits 20% or less. It’s not just grades, scores but the entire picture.
But let’s be even more direct, if they were Ivy caliber they would be at Ivies. Need blind institutions so if accepted at both why would a kid choose a SUNY? The answer is the ones that are at SUNY are there because they didn’t get into Ivies or elites and the ones that got into both choose Ivy.
Based on revealed preference information, this suggests similar dynamics within the Ivies, however. Of those accepted to both Brown and Yale, for example, 89% choose Yale.