Georgetown transfer chances?

Transfer Students
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<p>I currently attend Bard College (in NY, ranked 36 by USNews) but I'm considering transferring to Georgetown for the fall semester 2007 (currently a freshman, entering as a sophomore).</p>

<p>White female</p>

<p>High school...
Not ranked, top of the second decile (class of 375)
4.21 weighted/3.88 unweighted
ACT: 30
SAT: 740 verbal, 690 math, 760 writing (2190 total)
SAT II: French 700, Literature 720, Math I 680
APs: French 4, US Government 4, European History 4, Music Theory 5</p>

<p>College...
Current GPA (after first semester 3.33)
Freshman seminar - A, French Conversation and Writing - A, Political Thinking - B, Calculus I - C+
Next semester I'll be taking...French poetry, Public Policy/Poli Sci, Freshman Seminar, Music Theory, History of Indochina</p>

<p>In high school, I was really involved in music (musicals, marching band, honors band, concert band, etc)...not so much in college (one of the reasons I'm considering transferring).</p>

<p>In college, I was involved in mock trial first semester (plan to continue next semester), along with possibly more activities.</p>

<p>I plan to apply to the Faculty of Languages/Linguistics for French.</p>

<p>I've studied abroad in France in high school and hope to do so again in college.</p>

<p>Also plan to go to law school after for US and French law.</p>

<p>I'm not applying for financial aid either.</p>

<p>Do you think I have a chance?</p>

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<p>Your GPA is too low.</p>

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<p>Will they look at all at second semester grades at all?</p>

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<p>From personal experience, no.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately, the admissions committee states that a 3.5 is standardly required for transfer consideration. An applicant's decision may be witheld temporarily so the committee can see 2nd semester grades, though first semester grades are really the ones that are considered.</p>

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An applicant's decision may be witheld temporarily so the committee can see 2nd semester grades,

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<p>Really? Where'd you hear this?</p>

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<p>C grade for Calculus I will definitely hold against u...recommend to retake that course</p>

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<p>nspeds- on the GU website, this is stated in the "info for transfer students." The committee can defer their decicision based on your second semester grades.</p>

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<p>canyonbrad, do you have the exact link?</p>

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<p>I think I worded my response wrong. If your first semester GPA is too low, you're out of the running. However, if it is high enough but the committee still has doubts about you, they may tell you that they will make their decision only after seeing how you did during your second semester.</p>

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<p>I don't understand, your SAT scores are pretty high, how did you get a C+ in calc I?</p>

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<p>Because SAT math has very little calculus involved, if any at all?</p>

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<p>"Unfortunately, the admissions committee states that a 3.5 is standardly required for transfer consideration. An applicant's decision may be witheld temporarily so the committee can see 2nd semester grades, though first semester grades are really the ones that are considered."</p>

<p>Seriously? I called and they said you need, at a minimum, a 3.0. Obviously they aren't interested in accepting minimum GPAs, but...I have a 3.42 (tough courseload). Is it a waste of time to apply?</p>

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<p>it's up for interpretation. a 3.5 is the unwritten minimum gpa.</p>

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<p>^The cut off is highly dependent on your current school, if you go to Cornell and hold 3.3 that will trump a 4.0 at CC anyday!</p>

<p>Don't let the cut offs scare you, if you believe you belong at the school, you are strong enough an applicant! APPLY</p>

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<p>^I have to agree
My cum GPA is just over 3.0 and I am applying. My first 34 credits are from 5 years ago with 1.84 GPA and not in my major. My last 45 credits have been in my major from an intensive program (4.0).</p>

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if you go to Cornell and hold 3.3 that will trump a 4.0 at CC anyday

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<p>You are giving Cornell too much credit and CCs far too little credit. The difference is being exaggerated; if you were talking about Chicago or Reed, this comparison could be plausible.</p>

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<p>Hm, I don't think so. A 3.3 at Cornell would probably trump the 4.0 at a CC. Consider that that the 3.3 at Cornell would open far more doors than the 4.0 at the CC. Most people normally ask, "So where did you do your undergrad?" not "So what was your undergrad GPA?" The assumption is that if you were bright enough to get into the top school and bright enough to (even barely if it were the case) earn a degree from the top school that you are bright enough for a good job. However, with a CC (this is stereotypically speaking), the assumption is that you weren't bright enough to get into a top school so you might not be bright enough for a good job.</p>

<p>I realize this does not give much credit to CC students, but before seeing the caliber of some CC students like brand, I DEFINITELY felt this was a universal truth.</p>

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<p>But how is that argument relevant? If one is discussing the importance of where you received your degree from, I agree that obviously someone with a degree from Cornell will obliterate someone from a CC. But the fact is most competent CC students will transfer to a university to earn a degree since, well, it's impossible to get a bachelor's degree from a CC. ;) </p>

<p>Since we are discussing transfer chances, however, I do not think a 3.3 at Cornell would automatically trump a 4.0 at a CC. I think people exaggerate the difficulty of Cornell - the only exceptions to that rule would probably be the sciences and engineering, where Cornell is substantially more difficult than many schools. But I do not think it is fair to say an English/Econ/whatever major at Cornell has performed better than someone at a CC with a 4.0. </p>

<p>Universities tend to agree with me. :) From the schools I'm applying to, I've noticed that a minimum GPA of a B is expected from 4-year students and a B+ from 2-year students. Obviously they notice the difference in quality, but they do not consider it as drastic as some make it.</p>

<p>This is why people should be very careful and critical when choosing a school. You may think that grad schools will account for the difficulty of schools like Cornell, W&M, etc., and they usually do, but not to the extent that some would prefer.</p>

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<p>"Don't let the cut offs scare you, if you believe you belong at the school, you are strong enough an applicant! APPLY"</p>

<p>Best advice I've seen on CC :)</p>