Georgetown Vs. Vanderbilt Vs. Possibly UGA and possibly Emory

<p>Ok, so I got accepted to these places, and I'm having a hard time choosing which college to go to. I want to do history as a major, and I'm considering going to law school after my undergraduate program. So, of these 4 schools which would you go to and why based on the following information:</p>

<p>UGA
- With AP credit I could skip 2 years, and go in as college junior
- Honors College, so not quite just state school
- I'd have to pay around 5k a year
- Instate, which means I wouldnt live on campus which i dislike right now</p>

<p>Vanderbilt
-I could skip 1/2 year with AP credit
-Almost full ride (3k work program)
-interesting double major program
-Study abroad program i heard was excellent</p>

<p>Emory
-Skip some with Ap credit
-6k a year
-Instate, so id have to drive there every day... </p>

<p>Georgetown
-School of Foreign Service
-8k a year + Work study program
-DC is a big attraction for me in terms of Georgetown
-Internships are supposedly some of the best
-Study abroad program is excellent
-I have a feeling Georgetown has the greatest reputation even though it might not be the highest ranked from these colleges. Insight on that would be helpful!</p>

<p>Thanks A BUNCH!</p>

<p>Without a doubt, Georgetown SFS is the best option of the schools you listed–it is the most prestigious BY FAR and has phenomenal law school placement. More importantly, Georgetown provides the best undergraduate experience as well–and DC is a huge part of that experience (academically, socially, culturally, professionally). Faculty will get to know you well (and vice-versa), and you will obtain real-life education and not just an ivory-tower version. Georgetown’s study abroad programs are second to none as well. This should be a no-brainer!!!</p>

<p>The finances don’t sound dramatically different, and I don’t see the point in UGA for two years. Georgetown seems to be the strongest choice by a considerable margin (unless you’re in love with Vandy or Emory)</p>

<p>Georgetown SFS is tremendously strong…however, I wouldnt be so cavalier as to pass up vandy and emory without serious consideration. For overall academic caliber, Vanderbilt is by far the strongest and most prestigious of the schools listed…however since you were accepted to sfs that sort of puts you in a bind. Whatever you do you are in good shape because those are some great schools!</p>

<p>Op</p>

<p>I agree that Georgetown has the best reputation in spite of its us news ranking. Sfs is the best at what it does, and the things Georgetown excels at can not be quantified or measured by the us news methodology. Georgetown’s track record of educating world class leaders is unparalleled.</p>

<p>To the OP: Please beware of any comments by Nova2011–I suggest that you look at his/her other posts. Nova2011 claims to “respect” Georgetown as a peer school to where he/she attends college (Villanova); however, the fact that he/she was not admitted to Georgetown (like so many at Villanova) is still hard for him/her to deal with and results in attempts to persuade others to consider other options. It is quite sad, but it is a phenomenon that you will find at Villanova, Holy Cross (which he/she says he/she “repsects” as well), and Boston College (which he/she says he does not respect–I anticipate that he/she was not successful with the admissions process there as well).</p>

<p>^medman you have hijacked threads at Villanova, notre dame, and Boston college…you seem to have a fetish with thinking all other catholic colleges must worship Georgetown. I personally belive Gtown is stronger than nova, Bc, and on par, maybe lower than ND…however my thinking that Vandy is better than Gtown is not unfounded…The sat scores at Vandy are 70pts higher than at Gtown…Us news considers Vandy to be higher ranked…where am I so wrong for believing what so many would consider a well informed opinion? I have a feeling you were rejected from every school accept gtown where perhaps you had a family member in the admissions room.</p>

<p>Nope, Nova2011–transferred to Georgetown from Duke, now at Hopkins med. How’s that Villanova going for you???</p>

<p>its going great! I am following in one of my siblings foot steps (nova grad) who is now at Columbia med having scored higher than the 99th percentile on his mcat. </p>

<p>I am sure you are doing well at JHU.</p>

<p>Love it, thanks!!!</p>

<p>I personally believe Vanderbilt is a great regional school, but with little prestige outside of the south and that ND is a good school in a bit of a Catholic bubble, but not as competitive or selective as Georgetown for the best students in the country or the world for that matter. It is also not very diverse. ND and Vanderbilt are fantastic, but they are no Georgetown and do not offer the same opportunities to students.</p>

<p>^ I understand where you are coming from and Notre dame does seem to suffer from the reputation of being in a “back water” small, midwestern town. Georgetown is great dont get me wrong…but how do you see vanderbilt as being less selective than gtown? </p>

<p>accept rate at vandy 16% accept rate at Gtown 16%
I would say both seem to have the same prestige for of how far each school reaches in terms of where the incoming students are from.</p>

<p>at vandy:
33% of students for the incoming class are from the south
19% from midwest
18% middle
9% southwest
7% west
5% new england
5% international</p>

<p>at gtown
34% from middle atlantic
12% new england
16% southeast
4% southwest
8% midwest
3% central
12% west
11% international </p>

<p>all numbers are from the homepages for vanderbilt and Georgetown</p>

<p>Thanks for the help so far guys. I don’t know much about the majors at either of the colleges, but if I were to go to Georgetown, I’d do International History. And if Vanderbilt, I’d probably dual major in History and something else (which I’m still considering for Georgetown were I to go). If any of you guys have any knowledge about these majors, I’d be grateful.</p>

<p>Would you say that the 8k a year I’d have to pay plus the work study program id have to do would be worth Georgetown in comparison to nothing for Vanderbilt? Financially I don’t know a lot about the loans and stuff and how long those take to pay off so.</p>

<p>These are some of the worst replies I have ever read on this site. Georgetown is an awesome school and SFS is the best in the world for IR, but there’s really no need to point this stuff out. The OP applied to these schools because he would consider attending them and he more than likely has a lot of background info about each.
Secondly, you made a complete fool of yourself by jumping to the conclusion that Georgetown is where the OP must go because it’s is his most prestigious option. These schools are close enough that personal preference should dictate the decision, not a marginal difference in prestige (it is fine to have this as a factor of discussion, though). Plus, if you’re going to make some claim about Georgetown being the most prestigious, you should justify it. Vanderbilt and Emory are each three to four times as wealthy, have infinitely better research, and have far more renowned grad schools. Really, the only area which I can think of off the top of my head where Georgetown bests Vanderbilt is IR (OP, if you know you want to do IR, this would be reason enough, admittedly). For overall institutional caliber, Georgetown simply does not compare.</p>

<p>Thanks man for the comment. I’ve been kind of stuck between these two, and a large part of that is because I’ve heard a lot of great things about both Vanderbilt overall, and Georgetown’s undergraduate program. But thanks for the additional information. I appreciate it.</p>

<p>Commodore15: “These schools are close enough that personal preference should dictate the decision, not a marginal difference in prestige (it is fine to have this as a factor of discussion, though). . . . Really, the only area which I can think of off the top of my head where Georgetown bests Vanderbilt is IR (OP, if you know you want to do IR, this would be reason enough, admittedly). For overall institutional caliber, Georgetown simply does not compare.”</p>

<p>Spoken like a true Vanderbilt freshman. To say Georgetown and Vanderbilt don’t compare can’t possibly be more insightful than the other posts in this thread. Unless you were referring to relevant majors when you said the decision should come down to personal preference (although context seems to suggest institutions as a whole), then your last sentence seems to conflict with your overall tenor.</p>

<p>@OP Let us know what you pick. Sometimes these threads aren’t all that helpful because of the rampant bias and the insecure nature of posters who have attended a particular school and feel the need to defend it at all costs and disparage other schools. It might be more helpful to post in a neutral forum, if possible, or at least to get some neutral perspectives to temper the lopsided ones. </p>

<p>I’m going to be a Georgetown freshman next year, and I think all the schools you are considering will be good choices. If I were you, my degree choice and future plans would be the deciding factors, considering the overall comparability of the institutions. Whatever you do, don’t base your decision on something as whimsical as prestige and unstable as the few opinions you hear. Make your own judgment based primarily on objective data. </p>

<p>You can message me if you have any questions about Georgetown programs, dorms, etc., and I can help you or get you connected to people who can.</p>

<p>Actually, Vanderbilt may be a better UNIVERSITY–it has better graduate programs overall, its medical school is better, its MBA program and law school are pretty close with Georgetown taking the prize in both of those areas, and Georgetown graduate programs in public affairs and international relations are clearly better. The undergraduate student bodies are pretty similar, now, in terms of academic quality (Vanderbilt has become more selective in the past decade and is now starting to rival Duke in terms of the best university in the south and attracting bright students). HOWEVER, despite having more strong graduate programs (which, by the way, is ultimately what all “academic reputation” scores are based on), Vanderbilt’s undergraduate experience cannot hold a candle to Georgetown’s. Georgetown, as a university, is much more focused on students, and undergraduate students, with an emphasis on teaching and mentorship–it is a self-proclaimed “student-centered” university. Much more the feel of a liberal arts college, but all of the resources of a major university. Georgetown also is unique in terms of utilizing the superior DC location to enhance the undergraduate academic, social, and cultural experience. Internships in EVERY discipline are numerous, and everyone wants a Hoya to work for them. Internships during the academic year, whether they are on the Hill, at the World Bank, at embassies, at Fannie Mae, at the National Institutes of Health, for the White House, etc.-- are far more substantive than the brief encounters other students get in the summers. Also, the social life, and therefore the undergraduate experience, at Georgetown is far more diverse, exciting, and varied than what is available in Nashville and Vanderbilt. In terms of law, medical, business, and graduate school placement, Georgetown does as well if not better than Vanderbilt–and Georgetown’s social prestige and international reputation is certainly better. Finally, the emphasis on serving others is part of Georgetown’s Jesuit tradition and provides a perspective on your education that is unique, personally relevant, and community-enhancing. Being a Hoya carries with it far more in every domain than being a Commodore.</p>

<p>Now, if I were looking to pursue a PhD in Math, I would go to Vanderbilt. If I were wanting to pursue a degree in education or music performance–Vanderbilt. But for every other UNDERGRADUATE program, Georgetown wins, hands down. You will never regret pursuing your undergraduate degree at Georgetown.</p>

<p>For starters the best high schools in the us are in new England, the mid Atlantic and the west. Georgetown simply draws from a much more competitive pool from across the country.<br>
Vanderbilt simply does not have alot of representation from the country’s educational hotbeds of new England, the mid-Atlantic and the west coast. This shows that Vamderbilt is much more of a regional university than Georgetown which is 11% international.</p>

<p>Second, Georgetown has a 16 % acceptance rate despite not being on the common application. Meaning there is a lot of self selection by students prior to the application process.</p>

<p>As far as studying history, dc is living history. Consider studying original texts at the library of congress, the national archives, the smithsonian or even the world bank archives.</p>

<p>@wizkid94: I didn’t mention that Vanderbilt was a better university in order to convince the op to go there, I did it only to refute the previously suggested notion that Georgetown was far superior to Vanderbilt. I basically turned the argument on its head because it holds no water when subjected to data (at least any that I can find), and added my own contention that Vanderbilt is a superior university by popular measures in order to suggest that PROOF to their claim really was lacking. It was not intended to be “insightful”; I was proving a point.</p>

<p>Just out of curiosity, what pops into your mind when you think of a “true Vanderbilt freshman”?</p>