<p>carolyn, are u adcom ? if u are, i would like to ask u if i can do anything to help my chances? i was deferred</p>
<p>mmmmmmm, I wonder who "iloveuva" is? Someone create a new posting id?</p>
<p>hmm... are u all still talking about me? please dont</p>
<p>iloveuva?? great not another applicant.</p>
<p>yes, i am new to this forum. my friend suggested this. i think its cool</p>
<p>ok. this is really eating me up. I would like to apologize if i hurt someones feelings. I was wrong about some stuff. everyone doesnt cheat. IF you are one of the "non cheaters" i admire your integrity. It probably doesnt matter now, but I want to let u know that I have only copied hwk in my life. I have never cheated on any other circumstances. I guess i learned some kind of lesson, and i want to thank you all.</p>
<p>It's okay. But really, I have to know. If someone copied your work or you copied theirs and they got a better grade than you did, wouldn't that be funny?</p>
<p>haha ,i didnt know u expected an answer for that at first. that would be funny and i have seen it happen</p>
<p>p.s.... as i mentioned earlier, my school has a lot of cheaters.. so ther was a good probability that i have seen it</p>
<p>I copied someone's work and I got a better grade than the person did :)</p>
<p>Hey, cheating on a final is pretty severe, copying homework is fine by me if its not like a research paper (ha).</p>
<p>Its inevitable that people cheat, and though it doesn't make it ok obviously, it still is incentive to cheat. When people cheat and get recognition for better grades than you, what else can you do? I've never cheated on a test or anything blatantly, but I would never have an answer sheet during an exam. It'd be easier just to study at my school.</p>
<p><<::sighs:: i'm wasting my time here. i said uva is my ideal place since you all are claiming that theres not a single person who has ever cheated in his life at UVA. if thats the truth, yes, thats why i wanna go to UVA. i want to meet non cheaters..>></p>
<p>I guess I don't understand your point. Do you want to meet other "non cheaters" who cheated their way through high school, just as you did? Should cheating be excused or justified because you did it to be with "non cheaters"? Is getting into the college of your dreams justification for cheating? Is it somehow more justifiable than cheating merely to graduate from high school? Sorry, I have no sympathy for any level of cheating. UVA has probably turned away someone with an honestly attained record identical to yours. I really feel for that student.</p>
<p>I think many, if not almost all of us, have broken down and copied someone's math problems at one point when we ran out of time to do the assignment. While this isn't moral either, the weight of one nights homework isn't that great. Cheating on a final or large paper is just WRONG. Theres no academic satisfaction resulting from having the answers with you during the test, and as collegefear is finding out, the potential consequences drastically outweigh the results.</p>
<p>I know the action is done and done, but I can't see why you'd cheat after you got accepted, a B on a final isn't going to get your application rescinded even if you're a straight A student since you were a zygote.</p>
<p>well, i know in my school, giving unauthorized aids or being absent on the day of a test/project considers as cheating too</p>
<p>So collegefear, what happened?</p>
<p>he explains it on the first page...</p>
<p>no, im sorry, you misunderstood me.. I meant what happened after that.. collegefear hasn't posted in a while.. did he talk to GC, etc.?</p>
<p>I think many, if not almost all of us, have broken down and copied someone's math problems at one point when we ran out of time to do the assignment.</p>
<p>Then don't go to Dartmouth because this too is a violation of the honor code, while you can collaborate on home work, it must be ** your own** work. Copying some one hw will bring your before the disciplinary board</p>
<p>This sort of attitude will bring all kinds of misery in your lives when you bring it to your relationships, your job. Do you really think you can just "switch off" when you feel like it? There are people in this world who assault, rape, steal, cheat, murder. Some get away with it. If you don't have standards for yourself and others, the world you create for yourself is really going to be nasty. Cheaters, thieves, liars tend to somehow end up with their own kind as most of us who don't do these things do not like to be with these types, and then they go along thinking "everyone" is that way since that is all that want to be around them. I do know people who cheat on their taxes, lie about things regularly, condone misdeeds and even think they are funny, and I don't even bother to take them on. I just stay away from them. I don't have time for them. And some of them are truly interesting people that I would otherwise enjoy, but I can't be around someone that would cheat without a thought. And that is what most of us do who do not want to deal with you types. And when you find yourself in trouble, which you will , not only eventually, but repeatedly, you will find that you painted yourself a world that is not a very good place. Most of us are not going to make a huge impact on the world, but we can at least make sure that our little space is clean.</p>
<p>Amen, Jamimom, Amen.</p>
<p>Jamimom, could you be any more judgmental? I'd rather have a friend who cheats on his taxes than one who keeps score of my relative worth, waiting to toss me out in the cold if I fall below her scale. Then again, I'd rather have an ax murderer as a friend than a republican. </p>
<p>This zero tolerance attitude eats at the very soul of friendship, of humanity even. Friends don't judge friends. </p>
<p>Just out of curiousity, what if it were your child who cheated on her taxes? Would she no longer be your child? </p>
<p>UGH. Four more years of this crazy neo-conservativism. Let the countdown begin.</p>