<p>I'm OOS, my SAT is in the high 2200's and I will be NMSF at the very least, most likely a Finalist. I've also done a bunch of AP's (will have done 11 by end of HS). Is it likely that I'll be invited to the competition when I apply next year?</p>
<p>You’ll probably get invited to the ADS weekend, but apply before november 1. Also, if you apply before November 1 and your SAT reading + math score is above a 1500, you’ll automatically be granted in-state tuition and an opportunity to work with a professor on research your freshman year (and get paid!). If your SAT score isn’t quite that high, I would seriously recommend taking them again and trying to get the verbal/math scores up past 1500 - being from out of state, it can save you a lot of money.</p>
<p>Lol I got a 1490 ***ffffff. I’m retaking it though, and my math was only low because of silly, lazy mistakes due to test fatigue (it was my first SAT, so I wasn’t fully prepared for how much energy and focus it takes), so I’ll probably raise my Math the 10 points to get the instate tuition.</p>
<p>You can also try taking the ACT. </p>
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<p>IF you are in the top 5% of your class. That is huge and a requirement that many with high test scores don’t meet.</p>
<p>I looked up more about this- the top 5% thing is only for guaranteed Honors College admission. You can get in and not be in the top 5%. Also, for that professorial assistantship, being a National Merit Finalist is enough to be considered for it, the 1500 SAT isn’t totally necessary.</p>
<p>Look, all I can say is that I got a 33 on my ACT and was in the top 10% of my high school (not top 5%) and didn’t get in to the HC. I took a very difficult schedule, too. I was high school class of 09 and I know admissions standards have gone up since then so there are likely more people eligible for the HC.</p>
<p>fa-la-la is in the HC, I wonder if she knows anything about how they do holistic admissions for those who aren’t guaranteed.</p>
<p>In my entry year (2008) the honors college requirement for automatic entry was top 10% of class and 30 ACT. As romani said it has gotten more difficult to get in due to the larger #s of students with such stats so now there is a formalized process to apply for consideration in the honors college if you don’t meet the top 5% of class requirement by writing an additional essay (check out [Honors</a> College Admission](<a href=“http://www.honorscollege.msu.edu/admissions/index.html]Honors”>Admissions Overview - MSU Honors College)). I haven’t heard any students get in off this process though (I don’t exactly hang out with honors college freshmen), so I won’t be able to contribute to the discussion there. Don’t expect to get into the HC if you don’t meet the initial requirements though, I don’t think it is very common for appeals to be granted. If you are close in stats you may also get invited to academic scholars (2 year program where you can eventually get into the honors college with good enough grades). </p>
<p>As for ADS, you can definitely be invited to ADS even if you don’t meet the honors college requirements (but still have high stats) but the likelihood of winning an award on that basis is slim. As romani said just make sure to apply before November 1 for full consideration of scholarships.</p>
<p>Isn’t the 5% thing a bit arbitrary? So a person in the 5.1th percent and a 1600/1600 SAT wouldn’t get in, but a person in the 5th percent of his or her class and a 1400 SAT would? Even if the first person took 12 AP’s and the second did 2? I know that this is an extreme example, but this could plausibly happen.</p>
<p>I have to imagine that appeals admissions aren’t terribly uncommon- I’m going to go email people at MSU. Thanks for the help, everybody.</p>
<p>There has to be a cut off somewhere. Of course it’s arbitrary, but it’s a line. </p>
<p>I’m sure 5.1% would get in, especially with a perfect SAT.</p>