<p>How long does it take to finally get your clearance?</p>
<p>What can keep you from getting it?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>I've never heard of anyone here not getting cleared. And it takes over the summer i guess. We never really use it...</p>
<p>As a MIDN, it's really only used for cruises during summer training. It is also used for a submarine brief during 2/C year.</p>
<p>In Proceedings this month I noticed that The Coast Guard Academy just got a "classified briefing classroom" where classified materials may be used in an instructional basis. Does Annapolis and WP have the same "classroom"?</p>
<p>When I was an instructor at Kessler AFB any classroom that didn't have windows could be used for classified instruction. When we reached a classified block we placed a sign on the door stating something like "classified instruction, no unauthorised admission" Then we just locked the door and anyone that needed in had to be let in by the instructor after classified material was secured. Our classes were pretty small though and I can see using a dedicated room for much larger group briefings.</p>
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<p>According to the press release in January, it is the only military service academy, and possibly the first undergraduate institution, to have a classroom of this kind in the United States.</p>
<p>United</a> States Coast Guard Academy - Secure Classroom</p>
<p>Sounds pretty good.</p>
<p>Just a bump to answer my questions.</p>
<p>The reason there is no answer to your question is because its premise is somewhat flimsy.
Anything that would prevent you from getting security clearance probably would have kept you out of the Academy [or would get you thrown out if it occurred after admission].
Also, however long it takes is however long it takes; like many things, you will get it when you need it.</p>
<p>Security clearances will usually take 5-7 months to process, however remember the the SF form is not the application for the clearance, merely a worksheet that will greatly help you complete the computerized version later in the year.</p>
<p>Not receiving one would probably results in your dismissal from the academy (as the clearance is designed to determine whether the government can trust you, i.e. any foreign allegiance, terrorist connection, or criminal record would probably show up as a red flag).</p>
<p>It also helps illustrate the role of being an officer, there is no public or private life, as an officer you are expected to uphold the standards whether on the job or off, as such the clearance process will be the first of many times your personal life will be brought into the open.</p>
<p>My boyfriend was interviewed by someone from the FBI in March. I am assuming this was part of him getting clearance. He was born in Russia, and came here 6 years ago, so I guess they wanted to double check and make sure he wasn't going to share anything with the Russian government. That being said I would also assume it took him longer to get the clearance then it would take others.</p>
<p>i go to CGA and there was a girl in my class who was denied for having an Israeli citizenship. i think she had to agree to give it up to get her clearance.</p>
<p>I'm surprised they even let citizens of other countries into the CGA except as exchange students. I'm pretty sure for the Naval Academy you have to renounce your citizenship to any other country to get admitted.</p>
<p>I don't believe that you are exactly correct. The USNA has an "exchange" program where you can go to USNA and then go back and serve in your own nation's navy. I believe that you have to get your US citizenship first but you do not have to renounce your other citizenship. You might not, however, be allowed to get your security clearance.</p>
<p>You both are correct. Foreign nationals., as guests of our country, do attend the SAs. There are quotas but I don't remember offhand what they are. However, for US citizens entering under normal admissions procedures, any dual citizenship must be renounced prior to admissions.</p>
<p>Oh, thanks for explaining.</p>
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<p>This certainly could happen - if this girl had never stepped foot in Israel. If she was born in this country and one or more parents was an Israeli citizen then she was born with dual citizenship.
She may or may not have even realized it - until CGA did the security clearance.</p>
<p>My son has a dual citizenship while at CGA and there were no problems with his background clearance investigation according to what he told me. He filled out the Homeland Security clearance questionnaire prior to arriving on report day, never received any contact with investigators until about a month into the first semester. It was the security clearance investigator who told him that a person has until their 21th birthday to claim a single permanent citizenship status, but was never asked to sign anything or state that he had to renounce his foreign citizenship. This threw me for a loop because I was sure they would insist on someone to sign something proclaiming loyalty to the states. I guess when one raises their right hand at induction and proclaims to protect and defend the United States is a form of declaring intended choice of nationality. </p>
<p>The clearance background check was performed by a private agency that was contacted to do security checks on all armed services. The reason I found this out was that an investigator mistakenly called me up at the office and asked to arrange for a CGA clearance interview. I told the investigator I worked for DOA and I think he had the wrong fellow. He offered that his outfit does clearance investigations outsourced by both DOD and Coast Guard, so much for armed forces privatization efficiency.</p>
<p>There is a member/mod over at the other forum who is a firstie at USNA and he says he did not have to renounce his dual citizenship upon admission to USNA. In fact, he posted that he just recently gave it up.</p>
<p>Maybe it depends on the other country?</p>
<p>The USNA alumni magazine also featured a story last year about a dual citizen USNA grad who is flying for the USN.</p>
<p>With dual citizenship in the United States and New Zealand, the 27-year-old former Nelson College student winged his way through four years at the US Naval Academy then two years at navy flight school to pilot Hornet fighter jets.</p>
<p>From the USNA catalog:</p>
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The possession and the use of a foreign passport in preference to a U.S. passport raises doubts as to whether the individual’s allegiance to the United States is paramount. A security clearance will be denied or revoked unless the foreign passport is surrendered.
Anyone who possesses a foreign passport must return the passport to the appropriate country’s embassy or consulate, requesting a return endorsement. The endorsement is a prerequisite to any security clearance determination. "</p>
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<p>I have never known anyone to get a TS clearance with a dual citizenship.</p>