gpa and class rank??

<p>hey guys... i had a quick question about class rank and gpa. i am currently a junior. i went to a highly rigorous private school for 9th and 10th grade. this year i am at a public, not as rigorous school.. we just recently got our class rank and gpa through 5 semesters of school. what my current school decided to do was to convert my gpa from 9th and 10th grade to their standards and rank me based on that. with this converted gpa i have a 4.52 gpa and 30 out of 400. however, the reason it is relatively low is b.c. my 9th and 10th grades at this extremely tough school brought my gpa down. at my new school, i have a 1st semster gpa of 5.0... here is my question.. do u think it is worth asking guidance if they could give class rank based solely on my new school's gpa (11th and 12th grade) and then have my old school give another independent class rank based on their gpa standards (9th and 10th grade?) this way, if i maintained around a 5.0 gpa through senior year, i could be at least 15 out of 400...? its just that the academic difficulty was so differnt between these two schools that combining the two schools' gpa and rank would be unrepresentative of how it really is</p>

<p>I think you should report your GPA from your old school in terms of the grades the old school gave you--don't change them. Then the 11th and 12th grades should be based on just 11th and 12th grades. Colleges will know that you transferred schools.</p>

<p>thats wut i was thinking... just because the caliber of the two schools are so different</p>

<p>There is really no good solution to your problem. It could be unfair to students who spent all 4 years at your new school if only your last 2 years count. Generally, more weighted (AP/IB/honors) classes are available to people in higher grades, so your GPA could include lots of weighted classes and not very many unweighted classes but others at your school would have their unweighted classes count, giving them a lower GPA than you even if they did better than you for the last 2 years. However, I agree that you can't just combine grades from 2 different schools willy-nilly.</p>

<p>colleges will realize you changed schools and that the private was more rigorous....this may or not be to your benefit bc your grade trend may be discounted.....</p>

<p>I don't really get it. You're in the top 10% as it is. I don't think most college admissions will really care if you're number 15 or number 30 out of 400. Your SAT's and ACT's will mean a whole lot and will tell the whole story when combined with whatever class rank you have. With very few exceptions, all colleges will be looking at your whole package -- class rank, gpa, SAT's and ACT's, personal essays, and extracurriculars. I just cannot imagine that they would care if you're number 15 or 30 assuming that the rest of the package looks good -- which it will if your first 2 years were as rigorous and effective as you explained. Furthermore, you have another year to excel and build up your class rank and gpa with AP and IB courses. I would just relax, continue to learn and enjoy what you're learning, and work on the rest of "the package."</p>

<p>yah people40...i c wut u mean.. all my classmates will have 4 years of grades, which will include a few regular classes. ill only have 2 years, which are mostly ap and honors classes. simplelife... honestly i think 8 percent and 4 percent can make a difference.. i just think it's worth asking the guidance if they can do this. i agree w. u about the whole package. i just came up with an idea. on my official transcript, they could have a gpa and class rank from all 4 years of my high school career (3 different schools) but then also include a gpa and class rank from my school of graduation, which will be a higher rank obviously... wut do u guys think about that</p>

<p>I am quite sure that as long as class rank isn't the bulk of your "whole package," they won't care -- 4% or 8%. Top 10% matters. Valedictorian matters. Top 5% -- you just don't see that figure used as much on college applications.</p>

<p>If class rank IS the bulk of your whole package, you're going to be steps behind your peers anyway, because the difference between 4% and 8% is not going to be the colleges' focus.</p>

<p>Not to mention, you have another year to pull it up to something that might make you happier without unfairly impacting the rest of the student body at your school. Like people40 said -- those that have been there for 3 full years have had the opportunity to take only the courses that were available to them, and they've earned their respective class ranks.</p>

<p>You're not the only student who moved into the school in the past 3 years. Would you expect your school's staff to adapt every single student's class rank based on their subjective judgment of the rigors of their previous schools? It's too big of a problem, with too few objective boundaries. And what of the kids who've been there the full time working their butts off with the only circumstances that were given to them?</p>

<p>I had a similar situation. I went to a private school in Brazil for the first... about 10 years of my life, then I moved to a public here. They altered my brazilian grades to fit their standards, but even worse, they had to change the names of my classes to apply to their report cards. Which means that my report said that, instead of taking Physics, Chemistry and Biology all in one year, I took Earth Science. And instead of saying I took Art, Philosophy, and Composition, it said I took Art Studio. And instead of saying I took Portuguese on a level for natives, it said I took Spanish 1 and 2. </p>

<p>:/</p>

<p>So, obviously, that didn't look good. I just had my gc write a letter of explanation to all the schools I applied to. If you could do that and explain to whatever college you apply to, then I think you'll be fine. :)</p>

<p>ughhh moving during high school sucks..</p>

<p>When I moved, my honors classes in 10th grade were changed to regular because this school "didnt have the courses here"...and when I complained that that class didnt reflect its actual rigor..i got the im sorry but i cant do anything...
and my debate classes all went under a "misc credit"...i dont even know what that is but thats what it says on my transcript...</p>

<p>Anddd...my new school has a serious case of grade inflation where if you do hw youll get a A...and it sucks that my past grades reflected my really hard school...</p>

<p>WElll i guess i could go on and on....we just gotta suck it up...
And making your school change your gpa for 11th and 12th seems really complicated..I doubt they would do it for you...</p>

<p>you're still top 10%</p>

<p>adcoms will know that you transferred schools - you're supposed to send transcripts from both high schools.</p>

<p>yah... three different schools has been tough.. so i def feel ur pain and i know how it is.. from what it seems like, im only gnna have one transcript..?</p>

<p>Whoaa! Your new your school should only have the classes on it that you took at that school. They should not be converting anything. Colleges will expect to see separate transcripts: one from NY and one from Brazil (with direct translation attached). You also need to provide a profile of the Brazilian school so that the colleges have some basis for comparision. Include course descriptions to show how rigorous it was. </p>

<p>This sort of situation in the pre-prep/ prep school world, because so many pre-preps go through 9th grade. </p>

<p>You were right to put your hand up; Don't let the NY public muck with the other school transcript.</p>

<p>toadstool... from the looks of my unofficial transcript thus far, it seems to me that my new skool is converting gpa from old skool to their new standards. there is no independent transcript from old skool...?</p>