<p>kind of random but is anyone aware of the average gpa for accepted candidates. not based on a 4.0 scale like on a scale of 0%-100%</p>
<p>My son was a 3.9 but there were lots of Mids with gpa's higher and lower.</p>
<p>are you aware that the naval academy accepts gpas on a 4.0 scale? </p>
<p>but anyway, i guess on a 0%-100% scale, if 0 is an F and 100 is an A+, I'm around a 85-100ish. I took a heavy hit this past semester, getting a 3.67 but before then I was a 4.0something cumulative.</p>
<p>Based on our experience, class rank and SAT scores seemed to be more important than GPA. My son, now a plebe, had a weighted GPA of about 3.8.</p>
<p>Will second Sacto Mom, with one exception- an unweighted GPA will be used in determining your whole-person score, and will be based on core courses minus any fluff.</p>
<p>I would think you would need to be somewhere around 95% but the most important thing would to be at least in the top 20% of your class and ideally being in the top 10% of your class. My son had an unweighted GPA of 3.9 was in the top 6% of his class. He received a 780 on Math on the SAT and a 560 in English. Typically they like to see at least 600 on the Math and English portion of the test. The ACT was similiar for son a 34 in Math and a 25 in English. They like at least 26 in Math and English. However in the class of 2010 I think 30% of the students received less than 600 on the English portion of the SAT. Hope this information helps.</p>
<p>You will never see any statistics posted by USNA in regards to GPA. Why? They don't use them. Class standing, factored for school competitiveness, is utilized to determine admissions criteria. USAFA may, I am speaking from hearsay only, utilize GPAs.</p>
<p>^^^^^
The Air Force Academy uses both GPA and Class Rank. However, the academy recalculates to GPA based on some type of algorithm. Air Force also uses the Writing portion of the SAT.</p>
<p>Per our RO if your school does not rank, which our's doesn't, then and only then will the GPA be used in order to determine within your schools profile where you fit in.</p>
<p>^^^^^^
Which they convert to an estimated class standing.</p>
<p>Yup they need that GPA to do the conversion, when the class rank is not provided.</p>
<p>I'm not aware of my unweighted High School GPA (I'm in college now), but my weighted was a 4.38 and I was number 10 out of 680 something graduates. I received a letter saying I was academically qualified with those stats last year, and got an LOA this year, so if that helps, cool, if not, sorry.</p>
<p>This is probably a good time to ask a question that has had me curious for a long time. I was always taught in the Navy that if you did everything correctly, straight A's perfect, whatever you call it, you were 4.0, It didn't get any better. When did all this 4...to the nth degree start? How does one become better than perfect? :confused:</p>
<p>Small high school -120 graduating class. My school doesn't rank but you can kind of figure it out by what honors you get. I know I'm in the top 20% but not top 10% due to the way one of the National Honor Societies - CumLaude - picks members.</p>
<p>Unweighted GPA 92.8, converted and weighted at 4.25 School doesn't do an unweghted on the 4.0 scale but when I convert it my self it is about 3.75 Hope this helped.</p>
<p>You get "bonus points" if you take honors or AP classes as opposed to just the regular classes. My school converts a numerical grade 90 to a 4.0 if it's a regular class, 9.1 if it's an honors class and 4.2 if it's an AP. </p>
<p>The better you do on the numerical grade the better your bonus points are. Like a 91 gives you a 4.1, 4.2 and a 4.3 where as an 89 will be a 3.9, 4.0 and 4.1 very confusing but lots of privates kind of do it this way.</p>
<p>Our school didn't give benefit to "weight". They were all just ranked based on GPA. He had 3.97 and was in top 7 percent as a 6A school with minimal IB/AP. His friend also got in as a recruited athlete for waterpolo with a 3.5/sub 600 scores and no IB classes. USNA really likes a well-rounded person.</p>
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<p>some schools will give more weight to certain classes...depending on level of difficulty. For example, at our HS, regular classes are calculated based on 1.0 credit hours ....while AP classes get weighted at 1.1. Thus, an "A" in a regular 3-credit class may earn a 4.0 for that class, while an "A" in an AP class may end up as a 4.3 for a 3-credit course. </p>
<p>As this is not uniformly done across all HS, most top colleges will ask for both weighted, and unweighted, GPA's. Our HS sends, along with a transcript, how grades are both scaled and calculated....along with a general profile of the school and student body....it is my understanding this is generally practiced by most high schools, thus allowing the admissions board a basis for evaluating grades. </p>
<p>While USNA69 posted different information, we were told the USNA will look at core classes- math, english, science, history.... in calculating their own unweighted GPA....this without arts, music, computer classes, etc.... but again, I may be misinformed about that.... especially in light of USNA69's post....</p>
<p>I do know class rank is very important in the whole person scoring, as are SATs, EC's, leadership, BGO interview, and the letters of recommendation.</p>
<p>first off my county's grading scale is:[the reason i dont think GPAs are that representative across the board]
94-100 A, 4.0
90-94 B+, 3.5
84-90 B, 3.0
..etc.
we get .5 added on to an AP class.</p>
<p>but if you're just looking at the number, my GPA from 9-12(including 1st semester) is a 3.52...and I've received an appointment..
(senior year alone, including 1st semester and my 3rd quarter interim, my GPA's around a 3.9)</p>
<p>I secretly think that class rank does not play as large of a factor as it seems. For example... I have an unweighted GPA of 3.62 with 6 AP classes and 1 college chemistry class under my belt. I am also ranked in the top 26% of my high school with a senior class of 560. The school I go to formulates class rank on nothing but your unweighted GPA. This means that all the kids at my school who take yoga and dance are ranked higher in the class than me because they can maintain a 4.0 GPA with ease, even though they probably have a lower ACT score. The academy takes my transcript with all of the AP classes and puts it through a weighting formula. The result is around a weighted GPA of about 3.8-3.9 in the eyes of the academy. Doing this makes my relative class rank useless.
With all that said, I have not received the 'thin letter' or an appointment. However, I am scholastically qualified and a 3Q candidate with 2 nominations.</p>
<p>Did all of that make any sense at all?</p>
<p>Subvet-</p>
<p>Instead of being weighted by 4 points (4.0 = A), an A in an AP class is worth 5, thus the added weight. </p>
<p>My son, without the added points has a 3.88 gpa. With the added points, he avg's somewhere in the 4.1***. </p>
<p>The AP classes take a test towards the end of the school year to receive, basically, college credit. If they go to a civvie college, at least in CA, they receive credit for the class taken, thus, not have to take it, again. Not sure about USNA. </p>
<p>Son working hard on calc, so he can test into calcII and reduce a little work his "firstie" year.</p>