<p>Silly Question : Do Ecoles de commerce offer undergraduate courses ?
What is Preparatoire classes for 2 years .
In india there is 10+2 and then University .Is is so in case of France ?
Plz help</p>
<p>I'll give you one piece of advice: just don't go to France for the purpose of education (except to learn French as a second language). Also, their system is completely different from the American system (or the very similar Canadian and British ones).</p>
<p>Blobof I want my college to be an experience i believe that France is where i want to be .
Could you tell me wether IUP would be a good option ??</p>
<p>I'm afraid I can't answer that question, and I doubt there are many people on CollegeConfidential who can (France is not on the radar of the vast majority of American students, the only school there they can name is the Sorbonne, of which they know nothing beyond the name). You'll probably have to find some college oriented French forums on the internet, and I wish you good luck with that.</p>
<p>I will give you one last piece of advice, as you really want to go to France: be prepared for bureaucratic hassles way beyond anything you've encountered before.</p>
<p>blobof just because you might have had a bad experience doesn't mean you can't get a good education over there.
to apply to a grande ecole, you need to take a classe prepa for two years after high school. It's a lot of work. After that you take competitive exams to get into grandes ecoles. For ecoles de commerce, you might want to look at HEC, Mine, Chartes...
As for the class prepa themselves, some of them are more reputed than others, but it doesn't make much of a difference. All that counts is how you do on the exams at the end of your preparation.
The Sorbonne is not a grande ecole, it's just a university.
As for IUPs, you can apply to them after your prepa, just like grandes ecoles. The system has recently been aligned with the anglo-saxon model. So now its easier to apply other places and get equivalencies once you're done
hope this helps</p>
<p>Axfr: It was just a friendly warning. Some systems/schools are better adapted to take in international students than others, and I just don't think the French system/schools are among them. And I was not suggesting the Sorbonne is a Grande Ecole either, merely that it's the only post-secondary institution in France most CCers can name. I am glad to see there's at least one other CCer who can answer DhanPrad's questions (much better than I).</p>
<p>is there any system that's adapted to international students apart from the US and Uk?
CCers might only know the Sorbonne, but employers tend to be familiar with the main french business school though they are admittedly not as reputed as ivies or oxbridge</p>
<p>Thanks for your advice very helpful</p>
<p>axfr, there is also Canada, Australia and Switzerland if you want to consider university education outside the UK and US.</p>
<p>Blobof, Sorbonne is not the only school US students can name. 10% of the Physics and Chemistry Nobel laureates over the last 15 years have been educated and/or taught at major French universities. </p>
<p>Most students interested in Political Science and Diplomacy at schools like Chicago, Columbia, Georgetown, Harvard, Michigan, Princeton can name Science Po and ENA (graduate school only). </p>
<p>Most Engineers at Cal, Caltech, Cornell, MIT, Michigan and Stanford can name Ecole Polytechnique as well as the numerous "Ecoles Normales Superieures". </p>
<p>Also, most Business students at top US Business schools have at least heard of HEC and INSEAD (MBA only). </p>
<p>To say nothing of Sorbonne and Nanterre, both of which are highly respected in the Humanities, Social Sciences and Law.</p>
<p>Obviously, France doesn't have as many famous universities as the UK because French is no longer considered the international language. And I agree that one will find the French university system highly beaurocratic. However, France has a dozen of so internationally respected universities. Remember that France is smaller than Texas in size and only has 63 million people (20% of the US population". Furthermore, once accepted, I am sure that being a university student in France certainly has many advantages.</p>
<p>yes I totally agree Besides it is not fair to compare US and French Univs which are like peaches and orange.Which one is better or more famous ?
French System is beau'cratic indeed .OAMs dont reply for days on end?</p>
<p>My sister went to University of Rennes (Brittany. North-west France). The system is quite different in that if a student completes high school (and gets the French Baccelaurate) they are automatically offered a place at the university closest to their home. They just turn up on the first day in September and sign up for whatever class (major effectively. Like UK universities there are no minors in general. Though many courses require a pass in a foreign language - usually English) they want. This means there is a very high drop-out rate as people change their minds and switch classes. Because most students remain living at home with their parents there doesn't tend to be (at least there isn't at Rennes) much of a campus community. Students go home to socialise in the evenings and often live quite far from the university. Rennes (and I believe most French universities) is split into sciences and arts campuses. One is Rennes 1 and the other Rennes 2. I think you can't take classes at both.</p>
<p>There were quite a lot of foreign students at Rennes but most were from within Europe. There were a lot from England because Rennes does an exchange with Exeter University there. Also quite a few Irish. My sister's room mate was Greek.</p>
<p>My sister studied in French and as far as I know all classes there were taught in the language. So you would have to have a good level of French to enrol.</p>
<p>You know that currently most students in France are on strike, right? It's been going on for more than 3 weeks. </p>
<p>Good info cupcake. Also, your French language had better be pretty **** good if you want to study in a French university alongside French students, studying your subject in the medium of French. If you are thinking about Les Grandes Ecoles or Sciences Po, you will need to have near native fluency in the language. If not, prepare for some pain, wasting your money, or both. Ideally, if your French is not up to this level, spend a year or two in a small town with no other English speakers getting it up to scratch.</p>