Grandparents, thank you’s and cognitive decline

I think it makes me feel as if my children aren’t important. Because they do the right thing, yet my mil can’t even remember that. She only is fixated on the other grandchildren, the ones who lived in town. Who she babysat and picked up from school and talked about endlessly. But now that they are adults and moved away, they can’t even thank her for Christmas presents. But the ones who do thank her are again the forgotten ones.

I don’t have grandchildren yet but I really hope that I won’t bug my dil about the things the kids should do. And remember how busy young people are (and sometimes self centered!).

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I hear you!

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Maybe those adult kids who moved away do call and thank her, but she forgets those calls as well. I’m sensing some pent up resentment over MIL’s relationship with the grandkids who were local, and my kids were the local kids so I get it. My sister who lived many states away used to mention how my mom would brag about my kids to her. My parents went to every game, concert, awards ceremony, play - their lives revolved around my kids. They loved my sister’s kids, flew out a few times a year to see them (watching them while my sister and husband vacationed), and the kids spend a week every summer at their house (while my sister vacationed).

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I wish that the people who benefited by having a grandparent close by had appreciation for what the grandparents did for them. Instead what was done was taken for granted.

It feels to me like a one way street. I’ve had years of behavior from my sister in law and the kids that take instead of give. That any gifts are expected and not appreciated.

I can’t explain all that has gone on because every family is different and every situation isn’t the same.

I don’t feel resentment except for the fact that the people that benefited the most seem to appreciate it the least.

It was a moment of complete honesty that I’m working through. I just want the complaining to stop as it doesn’t involve me.

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Then I think you should say that to your mother-in-law.

“Please don’t complain to me about __________. I have no involvement/connection/control over (whatever word/phrase is most appropriate to you) in your relationship with them.” Then change the subject. If she continues on, “I’m not discussing this anymore.” and excuse yourself to go to the restroom. Or to get another drink at the bar. Or to take an aspirin. Physically remove yourself from the area if she doesn’t respect your boundary.

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Back in the 80s, my maternal grandmother let me know my paternal grandmother (they were friends) was complaining I hadn’t written or called. But in fact, I had done both, regularly. She was just not remembering. Paternal grandmother died shortly thereafter.

My H is clergy - similar thing happens. Someone visits an elderly church member, and they complain how the pastor never visits. When in fact the pastor has visited regularly. H started leaving a card with the date when does visits. He has developed a pretty thick skin, but it’s hard to be disparaged or criticized for something you’re not guilty of.

Sometimes you just have to learn to ignore it, which is hard.

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I think many feel the same way as you do. In my circumstances, our family was so grateful for my parents, they both drove minivans to drive carpools! Two of my daughters were competitive dancers, my mom was the dance mom, a role she adored, and the other dance moms adored her. She even traveled overseas several times, and was devastated when she realized she wasn’t going to Belfast because she wasn’t going to live long enough. The studio bought a perpetual trophy in her name. Before #4 and #5 were born, my husband’s large company moved from NYC to NC, we could’ve moved and bought a nicer home with no mortgage. We couldn’t do it. A few kids wrote their common app essays about my parents, and several scholarship essays. The kids’ soccer club purchased a tree and plaque in their names. They were a second set of parents to my kids, and I suspect favored by our kids over us. My sister’s kids worshipped them as well.

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Back to the original question, when MIL says “the grandkids never say thank you,” you could say, “ I know our kids are good about thank yous, do you want me/husband to mention it to siblings that their kids are dropping the ball? Do you prefer a phone call or a card?”

If she’s getting forgetful maybe she just forgot. A card could be nice but it’s also easy to misplace that, so it might not solve the problem.

She may also just like to complain. Some people make a hobby of it.

My MIL, thankfully, is wonderful and does not complain about thank you notes and she texts and emails too. She loves to get texts from my kids. She’s 82.

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Re: mail. We found that sometimes the mail gets brought in…but never opened. We also found open mail in piles all over the place…who knows if they were read or not…

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Amen! I hear you. Similar story here. And every time we are there my MIL makes a point of telling me how wonderful the others are. They really, really are good people, so yes but I hope she sometimes says something nice about my kids too.

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Mjkacmom - wow- that story of your involved parents w/their grandkids was so touching. :smiling_face_with_tear:

My parents were also very involved w/my son from birth until we moved an hour away when he was in elementary school (caring for him full time while I was in grad school). I can see the difference all that time made in their relationship. My 67 year old dad would take my then 2-year old son to Gymboree, sitting in a circle with all the young moms, waving scarves in time to the music. :smile:

In terms of the appreciation/thanks for grandparents and discussed in this thread - the only thing I could offer in return to my parents for all their help was care for them as they got older. While I did that (they’ve since passed) I think the balance is still tipped in favor of the great gift they gave to me and my son. I’ll never be able to repay that.

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This is a sensitive area for me, but it involves Christmas cards. It still makes it to the pit of my stomach. My mother would address the envelopes and hand them to me to send to specific members of her family only. I lived in another state, This continued for decades into my 50’s and her 80’s. Usually just about 4 of them. I did it to just not hear about it. It was a part of of bigger picture of looking good to her family and showing off her children (me).
Interestingly the only cards I wanted to send were to my father’s sisters, which were not included. I am in my 60’s, my mother is deceased, and I still hate Christmas cards exchange. I only send them after I receive one first.

As far as thank you cards go, I assume if I give a gift it is my choice. No one else is in this contract. If they send, say, text a note then fine. If not, then fine.

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I don’t enjoy getting a thank you note. Looks so obligatory. I’d rather get a random note.

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I don’t care if I get a thank you note but appreciate knowing something has been received. Thank you note, verbal acknowledgement, email, text. Doesn’t matter.

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Mjkacmom - what a blessing your parents were!

My parents were the local grandparents, I know from my close sisters that my mothers talked about my kids all the time. Now that that same sister has a local two year old extended family member she sees weekly, she makes every effort NOT to talk about him to her far away kids and she realizes It’s just what you are doing and seeing every week so it can be just natural, not malicious, but others can be malicious with favoutism, of course. My sister tells me she used to resent o,ur mom talking about my kids all the time despite understanding it, and now that feeling is easing.

I was the “favorite” but it was because my siblings are much older than me and my black sheep sibling caused incredible stress during their teens, they had different parents than I did. They left home as soon as they could. My parents were tempered by life when this oopsie baby came along, they were better parents to me than my siblings. I was a different kid, no reason to flee, I made all the efforts to be close to them. For example as a young married and with young kids, I orchestrated frequent interactions with them, several times a week. When we moved a day’s drive away, my mother and my SIL both commented that, wow, “sad you are leaving, but now we will have so much time with each other” (unspoken, without you in the way, we two families will get together :wink:) And don’t take that wrong, I did not, they were trying to find the best in a sad situation. My sibling had joined us for family days, swimming and BBQs, most every weekend, they were not excluded, but much of their time with my parents was created by things I organized. I was a a stay at SAHM the first few years of parents, my SIL had to return to FT work when her baby was 6 weeks old, she did not have much time to organize stuff.

Later, each of them, SIL & mother, complained to me that they never got together. I realized, my mother was not that sort of social person, nor was my SIL, but they each, literally, blamed the other! They did not have people over, they just didn’t craft their lives that way. When we moved, friends who’d come to all our Memorial Day/4th of July/Labor Day, even Christmas Eve/Day parties, none of them had parties or did anything on those days. It was them all coming to my entertaining, but none of them were inclined to create their own social get togethers. Funny!

In summary, that brother/SIL will tell you right now that they did not have much of a relationship with my parents, no problem, but my Mom/Dad never made the effort. Bro/SIL don’t see that they also made no effort. For example, my parents would take the grandkids home from church, bro or SIL would pick them up at the end of a day running errands, but never did dinner. My mother always thought it was weird they did not want to do dinner, but then maybe she didn’t offer well?

My parents, a few years later when Dad retired, moved to our new town. That’s pretty harsh for my brother/SIL. My Dad was so involved with my kids, doing stuff with the schools, including driving, volunteering with a sports team (where he had done a university related sport.) He was lovely and beloved by many local groups. My mother had health issues so did not volunteer as much, but she was a provided a warm, safe, lovely place for my kids to often come after school.

When my parents were failing, over a decade +, I did everything, my brother/SIL did only the minimal and only when I really pushed. I don’t blame them, and my mother never knew their feelings. That brother/SIL are lovely people, we were close when living in the same area, and even now, on the phone we could talk for hours, but she never called me the last 30 years. Now that they are retired they are making efforts to connect, like sending birthday cards and such, all the nieces/nephews/other siblings reaction is that it’s “kinda weird” after all this time, but they just didn’t have the time when they were working, apparently.

People are weird, none of us see all situations clearly. I was the “favorite,” no bones about it, and for totally natural reasons, truly it was not favorite so much as most comfortable. We just spent a lot of time together, so yes, I absolutely appreciated it and am grateful my adult kids miss their grandparents as much as they do whereas the other grandkids mostly didn’t care about little stuff from my parent’s home, my kids and my brother’s oldest, who spent a lot of time with them for her first decade, they all feel super close and miss them in a deep abiding way.

But don’t even get my started on my in laws and favortism, again, I/we did exponentially more work than others, but other kids/grandkids were the more appreciated ones, whereas DH/I/our kids had fantastically high expectations laid upon us and never quite satisfied the in laws desires. :woman_shrugging:t4:

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I feel your pain on the in-laws and never being quite good enough. Especially with my now deceased father-in-law.

I think I’ve shared this on here before, but when ds was four years old, I had gotten a birthday card for him to give to fil for his birthday. Ds “signed” the card himself. When fil opened it, the first thing he said was, “That’s not a very good ______ (naming a letter in ds’s name).” Because, you know, all four year olds can perfectly write all their letters. :roll_eyes:

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This sounds like perserverating to me, which is something that happens in early dementia.

Maybe you could just say you will talk to all the kids. Go along with it.

If it is dementia, I hate to say this, but someone said it to me: Things may get easier as she gets worse.

My mother perserverates to the extreme at this point. Every night she calls me a few times telling me she wants to live with me. Every night, a few times, I tell her I am looking for an apartment and tell her how cozy it will be. Then she forgets in the morning, and does it all over again that night.

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My mother did the same thing. Randomly she would go off about the grandchildren not thanking her for gifts or not staying in touch when I knew they had. It hurt my sister terribly but I didn’t take it personally because it was part of her cognitive decline. I just reframed it — “you have such great grandchildren. They are all turning out to be responsible adults. I know how much you love to hear from them”. And sometimes I reinforced with the kids how much their grandmother loved to hear from them. You have to find a way to deal with it, but if there is cognitive decline there’s no point in taking it personally or trying to argue with them. It’s just sad.

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My mother started saying several unkind things in the last several years of her life. For example she frequently criticized D’s wedding saying it was “huge” (130 guests, smaller than mine). She was pretty critical when I was growing up but had not been that way for decades. Later I realized that it was likely the early stages of her Alzheimer’s talking. She mellowed out again as the disease progressed.

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Thanks for that observation. My mom and my mil have said some doozies lately! It’s been frustrating, the negativity

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