<p>CALS</a> Admissions: Transfer Agreements</p>
<p>how guaranteed is this agreement? I know like 50 kids at one of these CC that can meet this criteria... And yes, they all applied. There is no way CALS is going to let in this many students from one CC in. how does this work?</p>
<p>Did they all get the Guaranteed Transfer offer? It's not like kids with those stats can just apply; they had to have been sent the letter offering them the GT option</p>
<p>No, none of them did.... last year no one got these letters either, but the amount of students getting in from our CC is record high. Every year Cornell takes about a dozen kids and ppl have caught on. So I guess there just competing against one another for those spots?</p>
<p>Getting "guaranteed transfer" is a very specific form of acceptance. It's not just anyone who meets criteria can walk through their doors in a year or two. If they applied and got rejected, then they cannot transfer into Cornell without going through the whole application process again and taking a second chance.</p>
<p>Under Guaranteed Transfer, you are conditionally accepted into Cornell when you apply in high school. You have to meet all the criteria in whatever school you attend and then just sign a piece of paper and you're into Cornell. It tends to go to students who might need a couple more years development, who don't have the finances to support 4 years at Cornell, or simply because they didn't have room left in the class.</p>
<p>Cornell has admission agreements with certain upstate New York community colleges as part of their land grant mission. What you're witnessing might have something to do with that.</p>
<p>Is there GT for the College of Engineering?</p>
<p>No offense to anyone, but this seems to discourage smart, hard-working kids who get accepted during high school. The easier route would've been to relax, not to have bothered striving for a 4.x and then applied out of cc-provided they meet the requirements. I feel gypped!</p>
<p>^^^ It's not like that at all. I had a 4.2 in HS, worked my ass off, and still got rejected (I have the GT agreement). Obviously admissions would see through people who would "not bother to strive for a 4.X." Even if you are at a CC, you have to take the required courses, which are very difficult to get a B in (at least at my school, since bio and stats are pretty much pre med weed out courses).</p>
<p>Sorry, but there is no "easy route" to get in to Cornell</p>
<p>No i understand now, i was under the naive impression that all cc's were as easy as high school. I didn't mean to condescend your work ethic or intellectual capabilities in any way. It's just a common misconception that cc's are easy. Thanks for clearing that up, because that is something that has bothered me ever since I read about these kind of transfers. Anyways, i look forward to seeing some of you people next year!</p>
<p>You do realize that very few people get the GT? It isn't something anyone can plan for when they apply in high school.</p>
<p>I think they're talking about the transfer agreements (where you just have to maintain a 3.0 at an approved CC), not the guaranteed transfers (which are given to high school applicants).</p>
<p>Heres how it works at my CC-- we have an honors program which is highest in the united states for CC to ivy transfers... Cornell generally accepts 5-10 of us per year. Out of every student who has gotten in NOONE has below a 3.7-- even 3.85 some years. They look to see if your schedule is full of honors bc these courses are about 100 times harder then regular. As long as you meet the requirements (cake) and keep one of the top GPA's in the honors program then you have a shot at getting in. It says "guaranteed transfer" but look a little closer... "4) Demonstrate solid interest and fit in the CALS major that you are applying in your essay." This is super vague and gives the admissions committee the ability to deny any shmo with a 4.0 who has met the requirements. What they really are looking for is someone who is sincere and FITS THERE MAJOR! GPA's are second to this. They choose the students who WILL succeed in Cornell. I spoke with the kids who transfered last year and they all have around 3.0+ at Cornell.</p>
<p>Here is an article which may back up some of what I am saying. If you really want to get into Cornell you need to want more then the name.</p>
<p>How</a> to get into Cornell - Cornell University - Epinions.com</p>
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<p>Like Norcal said, I guess we're talking about two different things. The guaranteed transfer is based on your achievement in high school and you are accepted into Cornell while you are still in high school. You can go to any accredited college you want so long as you maintain the standards defined to allow you to transfer. Some people choose junior colleges to save money. I went to a liberal arts college.</p>
<p>The transfer agreement with a few community colleges in upstate New York is something totally different. I don't know much about that. I, actually, knew several people who entered Cornell under that agreement. They were in farming, so it's a totally different barometer. But, I really don't think they would have been accepted under a normal application. </p>
<p>It's just a way for Cornell's land grant mission to provide a worldclass education to rural upstate residents who normally wouldn't have a prayer of accessing such resources. It should be respected that Cornell offers does that, not disparaged.</p>
<p>True but my CC is not upstate.. Or rural by any means.</p>
<p>This year we have like 10 premeds applying for the biological sciences major, two for the biological engineering major and a bunch of others applying for different majors like "biometry and statistics" and "biology and society."</p>
<p>My feeling is that Cornell is doing a disservice to the transfers by keeping their standards so low. This would be a case where "If you get accepted, you will be successful" does not apply.</p>
<p>"I spoke with the kids who transfered last year and they all have around 3.0+ at Cornell."</p>