Guys , are these true about Brandeis?

<p>I saw it somewhere from a website …I don’t know if it is true ! Can anybody tell me what it real feels like to be at Brandeis ? Right now I can’t decide between Brandeis and Bryn Mawr …please help me …I’m going crazy~~
imeldamarcos’s Full Review: Brandeis University
Wow. Going here sucked. Here’s why: </p>

<p>Student Body
The students, and most of the university, live in a bubble, unintentionally symbolized by the fact that the school sits on top of a hill surrounded by a peripheral road. Town-gown relations aren’t that great, as the part of town Brandeis sits in is largely blue collar Massachusetts locals. Students are mostly upper middle class suburban white kids, about 2/3 Jewish, and at least half come from either Massachusetts or New York. There’s a big divide, and quite a bit of unspoken resentment, between the Jewish students and non-Jewish students. The school is very racially self-segregated, more so than what I’ve seen at other similar-sized schools. </p>

<p>At the time I was there, the student body was largely politically apathetic, but that started to change by my senior year, and now I’m hearing about how the student body is “too” activist. So I guess it changes every few years. </p>

<p>Brandeis has a TON of pre-meds and other biological and chemical science majors. There are also a good number of pre-law and computer science students. Few people play musical instruments. Despite its liberal arts atmosphere it has quite a preprofessional student body. If you’re a free-spirited punk rock artiste, you ought to look elsewhere. </p>

<p>Social Life
Social what? </p>

<p>Brandeis students love to complain about how ugly their peers are, and one of the campus myths is that we are consistently ranked on some Playboy Top 10 List of Ugliest Student Bodies or something like that. Well it turns out that there is no Playboy Top 10 List, but I have to admit that we really are much uglier than the general population. Perhaps it is because we are so studious? Very studious + ugly = not a great dating scene. Needless to say, that should be a superficial consideration because it’s not like we go to college for the hot babes and sex, right? </p>

<p>Regardless, I personally found most undergrads extremely uptight, and this is coming from a person who doesn’t like to drink, smoke, or party all night. Whether it was refusing to work in a group because you want the answers to yourself, or accusing everyone and their cousin of cheating, or music from your laptop speakers being too loud, or sabotaging each other’s experiments, or mistakenly eating near a group of people fasting for a Jewish holiday, or accusing someone of “ruining the curve”, or complaining about something that was offensive (I don’t mean controversial jokes on the radio, I mean something more innocuous like having a Christmas tree or making ramen) - seriously, Brandeis students made this stiff-upper-lip nerd look like Snoop Dogg. </p>

<p>Students here are wealthy and do have the accompanying snobbery associated with upper middle class Yankees; however, there are more than enough people who are not like this at all. Overall though, there is a general ignorance of people who aren’t well off - you won’t be able to commiserate with many people about things like filing the FAFSA, sending money home, taking a semester off to save money for the next semester, etc. - because most Brandeis students will never have to do this. </p>

<p>The frat scene here is pathetic - for me that was excellent. I do really like the fact that Brandeis is about as non-jock n’cheerleader as you can get. Go nerds! Now only if y’all took the sticks out of your asses… </p>

<p>Those of you who did not grow up wealthy and/or not familiar with Jewish religion and culture will definitely have a greater period of adjustment than most - this, to be honest, made my experience hell for the first few months. In retrospect it’s a a good learning experience if you’re prepared for it. I wasn’t. </p>

<p>Facilities and Campus
Compared to schools of its caliber, dorms are way below average, classrooms and office buildings are about average. Freshman dorms are pretty horrendous - dingy bathrooms, stained carpets, 3 students in a double room, etc. Upperclassmen and graduate housing are only a step up. Ridgewood was designed as temporary housing only but I guess the school was too lazy or cheap to tear it down. Ziv has those kitchen spaces without kitchens in it supposedly because they ran out of money during construction so it was left unfinished, and also explains why one of the Ziv buildings is missing a floor. Rosenthal smells BAD BAD BAD! </p>

<p>I haven’t seen the new student center yet, but what everyone was asking when it was being built was, “Why spend all that money making a new student center when no one was complaining about the old one, yet spend no money upgrading the dorms?” </p>

<p>The layout of the cafeterias defied common sense, but fortunately I only had to live with that for a year before they outsourced dining services to Aramark. Of course, students complained anyway, but in truth there was a huuuge improvement when Aramark came along. The food was not perfect but for cafeteria food I thought it was damn good, and I think students everywhere just like to complain about the food for the sake of complaining. </p>

<p>The campus grounds are ok. It becomes, like the rest of the New England landscape, depressing and desolate in the winter which often lasts through April. </p>

<p>Sports
You mean, like, something you do outside of a library? </p>

<p>Brandeis’s gym is really, really nice for a school of its size, and especially for a school that is sooooo unathletically talented (and, for many of us, proud of it). Supposedly the Boston Celtics used to practice there. </p>

<p>Academics
I saved the best for last. This was really the only part of my experience at this school which I truly felt with confidence was genuinely better than anything I could have gotten at an Ivy League. The intro classes suck and the science professors definitely care more about their research than teaching freshmen (I don’t blame them), but if you can get through that, the smaller upper-level courses are excellent. Academics here are not only rigorous but are enjoyable and you WILL get a lot out of them. Professors are pretty available though some of the ones who double as advisors or department heads will be quite busy. </p>

<p>My academic advising was pretty poor; I guess I wasn’t really one of the department’s stars so no need to spend any time on me. I remember the disappointment I felt when I discovered that my advisor had replied to a friend’s email about getting a quote for a campus newspaper article he was writing - a few hours after he wrote it. Why was I disappointed? B/c my advisor never replies to my email or returns my phone calls. It definitely showed me where her priorities were. </p>

<p>Anyway, with that exception the professors in general are pretty good, though the social science profs definitely top the science profs in availability and relationships with their students. You’ll never hear the same complaints about Intro to Chem as you do with Intro to Anthropology.</p>

<p>Hi Aliza,
I don’t know which of these points if any concerned you the most, but first of all, this review seems to be very outdated.
The Ridgewood dorms that the reviewer refers too have in fact been torn down and replaced just this year, with very modern, environmentally friendly apartment style living.
[Ridgewood</a> Quad | Department of Residence Life | Brandeis University](<a href=“http://www.brandeis.edu/studentaffairs/reslife/tour/ridgewood.html]Ridgewood”>http://www.brandeis.edu/studentaffairs/reslife/tour/ridgewood.html)
Also, the campus center has been completed now for about 6 years I believe, and is a very popular place to hang out, with a cafe, book store, and and room for a lot of clubs. A. In Massell, 3 out of the 4 first year dorms have been recently renovated. In North Quad, I think it’s at least 2 out of the 4 if not more.
I don’t think Brandeis students live in a bubble, although I’ve heard people say this before. Students frequently go in to Waltham to eat in one of the many ethnic restaurants there, or Lizzie’s the ice cream place. There’s also a popular bookstore there owned by 2 Brandeis alums. There are free Shuttles into Waltham every day. There are also many projects that connect Waltham and Brandeis especially with regard to learning outside the classroom, often through academic and club projects connected to the Waltham Group. One of my friends is really involved in companions to elders and visits an elderly family’s home regularly and there’s the Prospect Hill initiative.
[The</a> Waltham Group at Brandeis University](<a href=“http://people.brandeis.edu/~walthamgroup/index.php]The”>http://people.brandeis.edu/~walthamgroup/index.php)
[Students</a> and tenants clean center - News](<a href=“http://media.www.thejusticeonline.com/media/storage/paper573/news/2008/09/09/News/Students.And.Tenants.Clean.Center-3421245.shtml]Students”>http://media.www.thejusticeonline.com/media/storage/paper573/news/2008/09/09/News/Students.And.Tenants.Clean.Center-3421245.shtml)
Brandeis kids are also pretty political active, last fall about 60 kids went to New Hampshire, a swing state, to campaign for Obama over the weekends, there’s a group focused on Darfur and a very active environmental group.
While I wouldn’t say that there are never issues between different groups on campus, but on an everyday basis I would say that it would not be true. I lived in a suite this year with people of varying degrees of Jewish observance and, particularly last semester, with a home-schooled, politically conservative, observant Christian. I’m going to be living in a similarly diverse group next year. I have a Hindu friend and a Muslim friend, both have participated in the annual South Asian celebratory event that is always well attended and I have been to twice.
Here’s a recent campus newspaper article about Jews and Muslims at Brandeis:
[Jews</a> and Muslims talk at JAM - News](<a href=“http://www.thejusticeonline.com/media/storage/paper573/news/2009/04/07/News/Jews-And.Muslims.Talk.At.Jam-3700264.shtml]Jews”>http://www.thejusticeonline.com/media/storage/paper573/news/2009/04/07/News/Jews-And.Muslims.Talk.At.Jam-3700264.shtml)
I myself grew up overseas in Europe and come from both a Jewish and non-Jewish background. </p>

<p>While there’s always exceptions, I think for the most part what many students say when they visit the Brandeis campus is how friendly people are. As someone who lived on hall my first year with a lot of pre-med students by chance, yes, it can be a little overwhelming if you’re not in that major, but I’m still friends with them now while also having friends who are studying other areas. I also know many students who have or still play musical instruments. I used to play one, I know people have played the piano, the violin, are on the University orchestra or in Chorus. </p>

<p>It’s also not true that everyone is wealthy. I work on campus myself, I know students who need to work more than I do because of work study, students who have gone off the meal plan to save money, who are considering reduced course load status their senior year to earn money. Brandeis is increasing its spending towards financial aid because of the economic crisis. </p>

<p>I personally like that there are no frats, it’s not a party school and sports are not a big thing. But the students who are in athletics are very involved, especially basketball games are well attended. There’s a lot of activity going on to fill the pages of the campus newspaper sports section
[The</a> Justice](<a href=“http://www.thejusticeonline.com/news/2009/04/07/Sports/]The”>http://www.thejusticeonline.com/news/2009/04/07/Sports/)</p>

<p>As far as advising goes, I think it it differs depending on your own situation. I myself usually feel that I never needed that much because it’s not an issue for me to figure out myself what requirements I still need to fill and what classes I need to take, but I’ve found all my professors available and I think if you go to anyone’s office hours they’ll be happy to talk with you.</p>

<p>So I don’t think you should rely on this report from about 6 years ago. As someone who also considered Bryn Mawr (I applied to Brandeis ED so I didn’t have think about other choices after that), you should consider whether you want a single-sex or co-ed school. I personally think I’m happier in a co-ed situation. Also I think Waltham has more to offer than the town Bryn Mawr is in. I also think Brandeis has more to offer academically in temrs of range majors and minors and such. </p>

<p>What are you interested in academically and what extra-curriculars are you interested in, if you tell us those we can help you more.</p>

<p>Thanks to catperson247 for a very thoughtful and fair assessment of Brandeis. AlinaQ, the purported alumnus review you cited is a skewed and and apparently bitter view which in general is not accurate. The only comments that I agree with are that the education the reviewer received at Brandeis “… was genuinely better than anything I could have gotten at an Ivy League” and that: “Academics here are not only rigorous but are enjoyable and you WILL get a lot out of them.”</p>

<p>As an alum who thrived at Brandeis, and chose it over Tufts and Colgate, among other schools, I know that it’s an amazing school. Bryn Mawr is a good small women’s college. Brandeis is a combination of small liberal arts college and world-class research university-with high-powered professors who actually teach in small classes. FYI in a recent Forbes national college rankings survey, Brandeis was ranked 15th among research universities and 30th overall among all private univerities and LAC’s–a testament to its focus on undergraduate education. Larger schools, including some Ivies, were ranked much lower. </p>

<p>Although its students are intellectual (comparable in many ways to students of its UAA sister school, U Chicago), Brandeis students are down-to-earth, friendly and non-competitive with one another. </p>

<p>Brandeis is just an exciting place to be, and its alumni suggest the type of people you might meet there as a student. Despite Brandeis’ small size and relative youth, its distinguished alumni include–to name just a few: Nobel Prize winner for chemistry Rod Mackinnon, Fields Metal winning physicist Edward Witten (often called “Einstein’s successor”), 3-time Pulitzer Prize winner Tom Friedman of the NY Times, The Earth is Flat etc; Mitch Albom of Tuesday’s with Morrie (about his Brandeis professor), the Creators/Producers of Friends; actress Debra Messing; Robert FX Sillerman (billionaire businessman–currently owner of American Idol and Graceland) and Christy Hefner, former CEO of Playboy). I went to school with a few of these folks. Also, if you’re into social justice or theater/music/art, Brandeis has a lot going on and it’s very stimulating. </p>

<p>Also, contrary to the review you cited, Brandeis is very diverse undergraduate and graduate, with a strong international flavor (in fact the majority of its International Business School is international students). With respect to the issue for some of the school’s Jewish population, you should understand that less than 50% of its student body is Jewish. Brandeis is a non-sectarian school that embraces students from all types of backgrounds based on merit. The school has no religious affiliation, although it was founded and is funded signigicantly by the Jewish community. </p>

<p>Good luck with your decision!.</p>

<p>catperson247 ,B77, thanx so much for your help ! I really don’t know how to choose between these two schools , I mean they are both good …I’m an international student , so I don;t know that much about Universities and Colleges in the States , and because of the distance , there is no way I could visit schools there … </p>

<p>There is one thing that bothers me : I’ve chosen the International business school at Brandeis ,but now I kind of want to major in theater , of life science , do you think there is any possiblity that I could change my college choose at Brandeis ?</p>

<p>Acutally I’m not a big fan of small LAC education , and I don’t really want to be at a women’s college … However , I like Bryn Mawr because its small class size , which is easy for an interantional student to adapt the Acadimics life there . Also , Bryn Mawr has a connection with Haveford , Upenn , and Swarthmore, students at those schools could actually choose courses at other campus , so I still get chance to see oppsite sex or meet more people . </p>

<p>As for Brandeis , I heard that even though it is a big university , it still offers students the LAC education , the class size is pretty small .I love Brandeis that it focus on the students and the academics , I really like those students clubs and organizations , and Boston is really a good place to be for an international student . </p>

<p>To be honest , I kind of like parties , I really enjoy meetting new people , learning from them.So it would be a little bit disapointing if students there don’t actually party or having that much fun :stuck_out_tongue: speak of having fun, no offend,but is “the Ugliest Student Bodies” real about Brandeis ? I hope it is not ,anyway , we are just there to study .:P</p>

<p>Another thing about Brandeis is , are there many students get into IVY Schools to continue their graduate study ? </p>

<p>I maybe having too many questions , but I really want to know everything about Brandeis to help me make the decision since college life means so much to every student !!!:slight_smile:
Thanx so much for helping !!!</p>

<p>Aliza, are you undergraduate student? The IBS is generally for grad students, although I believe undergrads can take some courses there. As an undergrad, you don’t have to declare your major until the end of sophomore year and it would be pretty easy for you to try out both theater and science classes.
If you are enjoy parties, you will probably be able to find them and students have fun at Brandeis in many different ways.</p>

<p>(And sorry for getting your name wrong before, Alina)</p>

<p>yeah ,I’m undergraduate , at first I wanted to learn Business , because so many students from my country chose that major and keep saying how good it is as an career . But then I thought that I’m learning for myself , why don’t I choose something I really like ~ I think I’m pretty into pre-med or anything about life science . and I kind of love theater , eventhough I’m not sure if Brandeis is a good place to learn theater :stuck_out_tongue: are you a currently student there ? it seems like you really are enjoying life at Brandeis ~lol</p>

<p>This “ugliest students” comment is ridiculous. It certainly wasn’t true in my time there nor is it now from what I can tell. Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder, click on this link and take a look at this picture of Brandeis students—men and women—appearing on the Admitted Students day page of the Admissions Office website. Judge for yourself:</p>

<p>[Admitted</a> Students Day](<a href=“http://www.brandeis.edu/admissions/asd.html]Admitted”>http://www.brandeis.edu/admissions/asd.html)</p>

<p>I’m a current junior. If you are interested in Business, Brandeis just passed a new Business major that you would probably be able to major in.
There are also a LOT of students doing science and many doing theater, I have a couple of friends on that track. Students put on a lot of plays and musicals and they are usually very well done. I took an American Musical Theater history class my first year and I really enjoyed it.</p>

<p>that is great to know , thanx guys , I think I would really enjoy my time there .Another thing about Brandeis I really want to know is , are there many students get into Schools like Havard or Yale to continue their graduate study ?</p>