GWU vs SU

<p>I am trying to decide on my last school to apply to but I cant decide between syracuse and GWU what are some pros and cons of each school? (I intend to major in business)</p>

<p>I live near GWU and visited Syracuse with my daughter. Thus, I have seen both and am familiar with both schools.</p>

<p>They are actually more similar than dissimilar in a number of ways. Both have strong arts and science offerings. Both are strong in public policy and have very decent political science departments. Both have very good facilities. Both offer a wide array of majors. That is where the similarities end however.</p>

<p>First, Syracuse has some strong programs that either GWU doesn’t have or isn’t strong in such as art and design etc… GWU has some programs that Syracuse doesn’t have such as forensics etc.You really need to check out your programs of interest to see what each school offers.</p>

<p>Second: Syracuse is in a crappy location. It is very cold and the surrounding area is crappy. GWU is in the midatlantic,which provides much more moderate weather. Moreover, GWU is in a fabulous area of DC. You are in the heart of one of the best areas for culture and restaurants in one of the most vibrant cities in the US. Washington DC is really a great city to live in.</p>

<p>Third: Syracuse provides a LOT of nurturing for its students. There are lots of tutoring and other aid and services for students. GWU might have some of this,but, in general, requires a lot more independence of its students. You certainly don’t get the same nurturing feel.</p>

<p>Moreover, GWU tends to be a LOT more expensive than Syracuse. Although the tuition is only a bit more than Syracuse, GWU tends to provide a lot fewer scholarships. In addition, it is a lot more expensive to live in Washington DC than in Syracuse.</p>

<p>Finally, although certain schools in Syracuse are about equal to GWU for admission, generally, GWU is tougher admission standards, especially for its professional schools. For example, GWU law school has a much better reputation than that of Syracuse.</p>

<p>What I dont understand though is why GWU is ranked so low in the usnews and business news rankings. Also I was wondering if GWU has an actual campus or is it similar to NYU where it is just a bunch of buildings in the city</p>

<p>I visted GWU last week and really loved the campus. All of the buildings are within a 5x4 block area, so everything is right next to each other and not scattered throughout the city. They also have a Mount Vernon campus, which is only three miles from the main campus but is looks like a suburban college. It has fields, courtyards, and residence halls. It is there for students that want to get out of the city for a bit.</p>

<p>As a resident of Washington DC metro area, I can tell you that GWU has a strong academic reputation, particularly for its graduate and professional schools. Whether it is worth that very expensive price tag is another question.</p>

<p>I forgot to add this. GWU tution and fees are $41,610 vs. $33,635 per year for Syracuse in 2009-2010. Thus, Syracuse is about $,8,000 per year less expensive. In addition, Syracuse seems to give more scholarship money than that of GWU. Of course, if you are one of the folks who don’t get any financial aid, this is of little comfort.</p>

<p>However, GWU does have a nice tuition feature that isn’t found in most schools. What tuition you incur upon entering GWU is fixed for the remainder of your undergraduate career unless you stop being a full-time student. This isn’t true for Syracuse , whose tution rises annually.</p>

<p>Overall for undergraduate studies, GWU has a slightly better reputation for must things except for art, design, theater arts, music, Newhouse school and anything related to athletics such as sports management and Kinesthesiology. As I said above, each school may offer some programs that the other one doesn’t have. For example, you can actually minor in logic at Syracuse. I am sure that GWU has some programs and minors that Syracuse may not have too.</p>

<p>GWU is also slightly harder to get into due to their 80 point higher mean SAT. However, frankly from an undergraduate perspective, the two schools are fairly close in terms of their cache.</p>

<p>Syracuse has a lot of sports programs for school spirit,which isn’t the case at GWU. I would be surprised, for example, if they had any football team. Syracuse also has a big campus that is very self contained. Although GWU does have a campus, it is primarily a city school similar to that of schools like NYU.
Graduate school and professional schools are a totally different matter with GWU having a significant edge in both quality and cache for most programs.</p>

<p>What are some of your biggest desires; what do you want in a college?</p>

<p>I am in the same boat as you, to a degree. I’m looking at Syracuse, and I was interested in GWU until it got bumped off my short list.</p>

<p>For undergrad business, it seems that both Georgetown and American, the two other big DC schools, are better than GWU.</p>

<p>What really intrigues me is the Whitman/Newhouse dual degree program at Syracuse. It really gives you an opportunity you’d be hard pressed to find anywhere else. I can earn a dual degree in Marketing and, say, Public Relations, in four years.</p>

<p>Also, Syracuse has a nicer campus in my opinion, with more of a suburban feel than GWU. But then again, it’s all about what you want in a campus.</p>

<p>Whitman School of Management was renovated in 2003, by the way.</p>

<p>well I’m looking for a school that is in a college town, has a lot of school spirit and has a wide variety of majors in case I decide sometime down the road that business isnt my thing</p>

<p>I believe taxguy covered much of what you wanted to know. I doubt this would be a concern for you at all but SU does have a forensics program. It was added last year. </p>

<p>In regards to your last post, I don’t know if GWU has 30,000 people coming up to see their football/basketball games on a weekly basis. Student fan support is prominent on campus as well as the support within the community. Our bball team continues to get national attention and is currently ranked #9 in the country. </p>

<p>I applied to GWU a while back but like one of the other posters said, they offer a lot less financial aid. A $20,000 dollar scholarship from GWU doesn’t mean much when you have to cover the rest of the $30,000 or $40,000. </p>

<p>I’d be more than happy to answer any specific questions you have.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t speak about GWU’s financial aid in general, IlluSU. GWU is really generous when it comes to aid. I have a few friends who were admitted to GWU and received excellent aid and scholarships from the University. There most famous scholarships are the presidential scholarship awarded to students of high academic caliber. Syracuse as well holds many exclusive scholarships such as the Remembrance Scholarship for high achieving students. </p>

<p>But, as you clearly witnessed, no matter how generous a school is, there will always be someone or some people that will not be satisfied–even at the Ivy league schools.</p>

<p>Having said that, I would choose GWU over Syracuse only if I really wanted a strong political connection or going into Government. Other than that, I would not choose GWU over Syracuse for a myriad of reasons.</p>

<p>Collegesound10, the Whitman School of Management is a great undergraduate business program and is currently ranked 38 by USNWR. If down the road you feel business isn’t for you, you should have no problem shuffling through the list of academic programs available on campus and majors within each school as well. </p>

<p>But, I would advise you to not spend so much time throughout the years pondering on what you would like to do. Many students across many institutions end up having to take an extra semester or even a 5th year because they decided something else was for them and they ended up working towards fulfilling that major too late in the game. And I think in an age where loans are becoming the devil, the last thing you want to do is spend an extra semester or year in college. My advice is to plan ahead and knock out core classes early.</p>

<p>College Town: both, but more Syracuse
School Spirit: Syracuse 100%
Majors: Not really sure on this one</p>

<p>IlluSU, what are dorms like at syracuse and what are weekends like?</p>

<p>Hey so just to chime in here, Whittman School of Business is #6 in the nation. My friend goes to GW as an international relations major. My guess is that GW is sicckk for an e political thing. Then again, Idk how their business program is.</p>

<p>Whitman isn’t #6 in the nation. Maybe a certain program in the school is but not the school overall. It’s #38 by USNWR</p>