<p>I was just wondering... what school in general terms would be better for undergraduate studies</p>
<p>sloan wins</p>
<p>yeah, sloan</p>
<p>ok thanks for your opinions....</p>
<p>what abt ross vs. sloan? or stern vs. sloan?
any and all opinions welcome =)</p>
<p>Depends on what you want to do/study. Sloan is the king of all things quant.</p>
<p>Actually, now that I think about it, Haas would probably be better for stuff like marketing.</p>
<p>Haas is a 3rd in the nation.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it's not as simple as looking at the US News and Businessweek rankings...but if you want to do that, US News has Sloan in 2nd.</p>
<p>Thanks jnpn!</p>
<p>Sloan... easy... and plus the MIT name carries a lot of weight</p>
<p>Have you visited MIT and met the students? It doesn't seem like a very fun place.</p>
<p>Sloan is a better school.</p>
<p>joshua007-</p>
<p>Good Question. The thing is on this forum, people will all give you an answer and argue about it, based on pure speculation and/or stats they heard from someone else. I bet 99% of people in this thread haven't even been to the campuses they are talking about.</p>
<p>I personally have a Wharton preference, because I attend the school. I've been at IB superdays with Haas kids, and they are the overall brightest coinsidentaly, I hate to admit that, but from my experience it's true.</p>
<p>I would ranke the order like this:
Wharton
Haas
Sloan
Ross</p>
<p>Haas and Sloan can be reveresed depended on particular needs of the student.</p>
<p>coincidentally anyone in the top 15 should be relatively smart or on the min extremely motivated, what are IB superdays?</p>
<p>Superday is when an IB invites all the ppl that passed 1st and 2nd round interviews (may be more depending on the firm) to a weekend/day for final interviews... (all expense paid flight, hotel, and meals)...</p>
<p>
[quote]
I was just wondering... what school in general terms would be better for undergraduate studies
[/quote]
</p>
<p>
[quote]
I was just wondering... what school in general terms would be better for undergraduate studies
[/quote]
</p>
<p>I can give y'all a very simple answer for why Sloan is easily the preferable choice over Haas for undergraduate studies, although the rationale is perhaps not what you would expect.</p>
<p>Specifically, Sloan is better than Haas because, as an undergrad at MIT, you can switch into Sloan anytime you want. Nobody will stop you. In contrast, getting into the Haas undergrad program is a competitive process. Only about 60% of Berkeley undergrads who apply to switch into Haas will get in. And that's just talking about those who apply. Plenty of others who want to get into Haas don't even apply because they know they won't get in. Let's face it. If you have a 2.5 GPA in Haas prereqs, you know you're not getting in, so why even bother to apply? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/statsucb.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/statsucb.html</a> </p>
<p>The upshot is that, every year, there are hundreds of Berkeley undergrads (those who apply and are rejected + those who don't even apply) who want to study management at Haas but cannot and are therefore forced to major in something they don't really want. * This never happens at MIT*. Like I said, any MIT undergrad who wants to major in Sloan management major is allowed to do so. Even if your MIT grades are terrible, you can still go to Sloan.</p>
<p>Hence, I think it's fairly clear that MIT/Sloan is the far more risk-averse choice. There is a substantial risk that if you choose to go to Berkeley hoping to go to Haas, you'll find out later that you can't get into Haas.</p>
<p>I can agree that both programs, considered by themselves, are fairly close (although I would STILL give the edge to Sloan). But that doesn't matter if you can't even get into the program.</p>
<p>i'd rank it like..</p>
<p>wharton
sloan
haas
mcintyre
ross - stern</p>
<p>Sloan for sure!</p>
<p>
[quote]
I sincerely believe the post above is utterly nonsense.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>And I likewise consider your posts to be nonsense. I told you before, if you don't like my posts, then don't read them. </p>
<p>
[quote]
irst of all, the OP was asking about the schools and their undergrad business program -- not the admission process of both business schools. If I understand it correctly, the OP was assuming that one has already been accepted into the schools and was only trying to gather information on how both business schools could offer better business training as well as opportunities after the degree. The post above, on the other hand, was a comment about admission process.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>I am well aware about what the OP was asking. That is why I warned that my post was going to be taking an unusual tack. </p>
<p>My take on the issue is simple - it doesn't matter how good the particular business school is * to you* if you can't even get into it. </p>
<p>
[quote]
Of course, if you're smart enough to get into either business schools, you're smart enough to leave the schools with a diploma.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Exactly. That's the caveat right there. If you're smart enough to get into either * business school*. Yet the fact is, plenty of Berkeley undergrads cannot get into the business school. In contrast, every MIT undergrad can get into the Sloan School. </p>
<p>The OP asked for information about the business schools. Hence, I think it's entirely fair that somebody should point out that entrance into Haas is not guaranteed for all Berkeley undergrads, but entrance to Sloan is guaranteed for all MIT undergrads. If anybody finds that information to be irrelevent, then they are free to ignore it. But those people who do find it relevent should find that information useful. </p>
<p>Like I said, if you don't find my posts useful, then don't read them. But let those people who want to read them be allowed to do so. </p>
<p>
[quote]
This sakky guy is entitled to say his personal opinion. But let me warn you that he is the strongest critique of Berkeley, (he usually reports the negative side of Berkeley) therefore you shouldn't take his words very seriously.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>And you seem to be quite a booster of Berkeley. After all, when was the last time you ever posted anything negative about Berkeley? Hence, I would warn others not to take YOUR posts seriously. You keep complaining about my bias, but what about you?</p>