Harvard Graduate School?

<p>Hi, I have been wandering about this in a long time, what are some of the key ingredients to gain admission into Harvard graduate shool? I am currently looking at Harvard Business School and I am a Junior in a public university, I am still lying out my plans. Here are some of my stats and future plans:</p>

<p>Stats.
Triple Major: Chinese/Economics/Finance
GPA 3.72
enroll in Honors college
Currently involved in College Speech and Debate
Internship: (sopohmore) Paramount Pictures
Office: Public Relations officer for Speech and Debate
Job: Waiter at a local Chinese restaurant for about 6yrs (They don't promote, but pay is really good)</p>

<p>Plans.
Planning:
Study aboard in China
Study aboard in China at Bejin through Boston University
Attending Summer school at Harvard
Study aboard (summer semester) at Oxford University
Attending a semester at Cornell
Obtain at least 2 more internship before graduation with major corporation in America
Hoping to graduate with Summa Cum lade
Aiming for 750/800 for GMAT
Aming for 1500/1600 for GRE
Planning to join the JCpenny leadership program
Planning to join Delta Sigma Pi (Honor business frat)
Hoping to get at least one letter recommdation from a former or current Harvard professor</p>

<p>History.
(Brief)
Current GPA 3.72
Community College GPA 3.76
High school GPA 3.2
I was a sleep during high school years
Asian (Taiwanese)
living at midwest
low income
first generation of immigrant to the US</p>

<p>I don't know how far I can curry those plans, due financial reason from a low income family. I am currently working on few scholarship. I am aiming for an MBA and hoping to get it at Harvard and do future business at China.</p>

<p>Tell me what you think? Or we can have a cool discussion. Thanks!!</p>

<p>I know very little about grad school admissions, but I do know that most people who attend HBS have already graduated + spent a few years in the workforce. Hopefully someone else can help you out more.</p>

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<p>This is correct. Only the most extraordinary undergraduate experience (i.e. founding and operating a business with 20 employees during your last three years of college) will get you into HBS right out of college. Concentrate on getting an excellent corporate job when you graduate. Management consulting and Wall Street are the two biggest feeders.</p>

<p>Man, tough luck for me. I have always dreamed of going to HBS. I always thought that internships counts as job experience, especailly with a major corporation. I have been very focused toward HBS, especially their MBA program. Has anyone seen a case where an undergraduate was admitted into HBS? I would like to see a example and will do just as good as those people and maybe have a chance. Thanks guys!!</p>

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Has anyone seen a case where an undergraduate was admitted into HBS? I would like to see a example and will do just as good as those people and maybe have a chance.

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<p>I know of several. </p>

<p>Here's the case of Lisa Schwartz, who graduated from Harvard College in 2003 and was apparently accepted into both HBS and Yale Law School and is going to attend both (!) and complete a JD/MBA. Of course, she was is one of the few people ever, perhaps only the 5th or 6th in history, to ever achieve a perfect undergrad GPA at Harvard.</p>

<p>"Lisa B. Schwartz ’03 has managed to achieve what most students consider impossible. </p>

<p>Over her four years at Harvard, Schwartz did not receive a single grade lower than an A—not even an A-minus, giving her a perfect 15.0 grade point average on Harvard’s 15 point scale. </p>

<p>Schwartz, also a Crimson editor, will receive the Sophia Fruend prize today, an honor awarded each year to the highest ranked summa cum laude graduate in the College. </p>

<p>But unlike most recipients of the award, Schwartz has a perfect academic record. The last person to earn this distinction was Lisa’s older brother Kevin S. Schwartz ’01, who was the first undergraduate in nearly 20 years to achieve such perfection. </p>

<p>Schwartz said that while she was proud of her brother when he won the award, she never felt pressure to repeat his success. </p>

<p>“I knew it was most important that I make the most of my own experiences at Harvard, so I never made it a goal to set any records,” Schwartz said. </p>

<p>Schwartz, who is graduating with a bachelor’s degree in government, said she took a wide variety of classes and tried to challenge herself academically.</p>

<p>“I’ve loved my time at Harvard,” Schwartz said. “* feel that I’ve learned something from all aspects of my experience here, so it’s definitely is a nice honor.”</p>

<p>Fellow students, advisors and professors were not surprised to hear of Schwartz’s perfect record.</p>

<p>Loeb Professor of Germanic Languages and Literatures Maria M. Tatar predicted such a feat was within Schwartz’s reach during her freshman year when she took Tatar’s core class “Fairy Tales, Children’s Literature and the Culture of Childhood.” </p>

<p>“Lisa is a natural in the academic world, achieving the impossible with power, control, rigor and real style,” Tatar said. </p>

<p>In addition to winning the Fruend Prize, Schwartz is also a Truman Scholar and is a member of the USA Today College Academic First Team. </p>

<p>“Lisa is such a self-starter and so motivated,” said Andrea L. Campbell ’88, an assistant professor of government and Schwartz’s thesis advisor. </p>

<p>Schwartz wrote her senior thesis on the little-known U.S. Judicial Conference, which makes policy for the federal justice system. The Conference is composed of the Supreme Court’s chief justice and other top federal judges. </p>

<p>Campbell said that Schwartz’s thesis, which she called “extraordinary,” dealt with a topic that few have studied. “It could easily be published as a book,” Campbell said.</p>

<p>The thesis, entitled “Judging Policy: The U.S. Judicial Conference and the Politics of Judicial Involvement in Congressional Policy Making,” also won the James Gordon Bennett Prize for the outstanding Government thesis on a subject of American domestic or foreign policy—one of the top prizes awarded in the department.</p>

<p>Campbell predicted a bright future for Schwartz in public service.</p>

<p>“Well, she already worked in the House, the Senate, the United Nations and the Supreme Court,” Campbell said. “She’ll most likely be a major figure and have a prominent future in public policy in some way.” </p>

<p>Ronald C. Chen, a law tutor in Eliot House who worked closely with her on business and law school applications, praised Schwartz’s commitment to excellence in both her academic and extracurricular involvement.</p>

<p>“Writing recommendations for Lisa was always a perilous task,” Chen said. “One is not certain to succeed in conveying all that she has accomplished in her life thus far.” </p>

<p>Schwartz, who has worked in the office of Supreme Court Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, has been president of the Harvard Mock Trial Team, on the Institute of Politics’ Student Advisory Committee and on the executive board of the Small Claims Advisory Service. </p>

<p>Schwartz will attend Harvard Business School in the fall, pursuing a JD-MBA degree with Yale Law School. "</p>

<p>I believe Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney got into HBS (and Harvard Law and completed a JD/MBA) right after graduation from BYU. However, he graduated from BYU when he was 24, after having served a 2-year Mormon mission in France. I guess that would count as 'work experience'. Romney also graduated as valedictorian from BYU.</p>

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<p>Then I know a guy who just graduated from undergrad, with fairly mediocre grades and GMAT scores, and is now at HBS despite never having worked after undergrad. I suppose you would think this is a relevant example, right? Well, this guy is close to 30 years old (if not over 30). After high school, he went to college but did poorly so he dropped out and joined the military, eventually entering the Special Forces and participated in a number of missions of which he is reluctant to talk to me about, and earning a number of decorations and citations. After his enlistment was up, he went back to college and graduated. His GPA is still poor (mostly because of his really bad grades in his first go at college), and his GMAT ain't that hot. However, I'm sure that HBS was pretty darn impressed with some of the things he did while he was in the Special Forces. </p>

<p>So these are the kinds of people who can get into HBS (or any other elite B-school) right after undergrad, with no intervening work experience.</p>

<p>However, I do have to ask, why so fixated on HBS? What's wrong with Stanford? Or Wharton? Or MITSloan? Or Northwestern Kellogg? I would argue that these B-schools are just as good as HBS.</p>

<p>And furthermore, even if you do want to go to HBS, why does it have to be right after undergrad? What's so bad about working after undergad and going later?</p>

<p>Hi, sorry I could not response sooner, I was dealing with mid terms and I was going on consecutive speech trips. </p>

<p>I am also considering other elite B schools, such as: Stanford, Wharton, MITSloan Northwestern Kellogg. Since HBS is consider as the best B school and the most pestigous, I decided to use HBS as a benchmark to measure my progress. I thought by only focusing on Harvard, only Harvard, will drive me far and fulfill other B school requirements. </p>

<p>Due to my family situations, low income status and parents have to work over 60 hrs a week, I am hoping to pursuit an MBA right after undergrad to relieve my parents. </p>

<p>Thanks for the info Sakky. By looking at some of the real examples and the talent of those amazing people, I realize I might not have the talent such as Lisa Schwartz, or Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney. However, I will continue to proceed with my plans and see if I can do things just as extraordinary as those gifted people by working hard and never give up until the end. </p>

<p>What I would like to know is what opinions do you all have about my stats and future plans? are there any suggestions or critiques? Thanks everyone!</p>

<p>HardWork,</p>

<p>Sorry to break it to you man, but top MBA programs are not likely to accept any straight-from-undergrad applicants. That's just the name of the game.</p>

<p>Thanks UCLAri,</p>

<p>I appericate the straight forward facts, I would much perfer them. I forgot to mention this , I will consider to work for a while after undergrade, if I can get a very "good" job after undergrad, considering I will be pursuit alot of internships. I am hoping to land a job somewhere in NY or Wallstreet. Than, I will apply for Harvard. Thanks everone!!</p>

<p>HardWork,</p>

<p>With a name like yours, and an obviously good work ethic, I'm sure you'll at least find yourself at a top 15 or top 10 B school. Best of luck!</p>