Harvard is ridiculously overrated, Rice is far superior.

<p>Harvard is ridiculously overrated, Rice is far superior.</p>

<p>The only thing Harvard has is the name. At Harvard you are a cog in a machine, the "nationally renowned" teachers don't even know your name and consider you a distraction from research, and you have to sit in huge lecture halls instead of engage in discussion. </p>

<p>At Rice you get just as pretty a campus, a great baseball team, teachers actually know you, and you get to have discussions instead of having to endure boring lectures.</p>

<p>Seriously, in Fat Ebvelope Frenzy all these students are so obsessed about getting into Harvard, but a Harvard education would be completely worthless if it wweren't for the "oohh-ahh" factor.</p>

<p>You're making friends fast here, let me tell you.</p>

<p>You're making a very bold claim.</p>

<p>As someone going to attend Rice this fall, this thread is in very poor taste... you are just asking for a flame thread.</p>

<p>Stop trying to stir up controversy--both universities are the cream of the crop in the nation, but there's no need to tear down and rip on one university just to elevate the other.</p>

<p>I am not trying to rip Harvard to elevate Rice.</p>

<p>Rice doesn't NEED elevation. This is my opinion, and many Harvard students feel the same way, at least according to this survey. </p>

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<p>Learning shouldn't be about being a cog in a system. All these students are being lied to and told by the US news that going to HArvard means a top-flight incredible education, but in all honesty teachers' dealing with you is simply detrimental to what they realy want, to continue their research.</p>

<p>Oberlin, Carleton, Swarthmore, Rice, are all far superior in the fact that they treat students as individuals and do not force you to attend huge lectures.</p>

<p>It's sickening, all these people obsessing over whether they will get into Harvard or not, when the school they are yearning for actually doesn't care about undergrads/</p>

<p>How do you know this? Have you attended Harvard? Or Oberlin, Carleton, or Swarthmore?</p>

<p>flame thread #2</p>

<p>I will say, though, that I do feel Rice is very underrated, not only on CC but also to the rest of America because of its Texas location.</p>

<p>Though Harvard is a fine school with unbeatable prestige, the undergrad experience at Rice I agree beats the undergrad experience at Harvard by a long shot. This is my opinion, and I am sure there will be people on this forum who seem to think Ivies offer the best education in the world and will vehemently disagree with me. In 2007 Princeton Review rated Rice as #1 in overall best academic undergraduate experience.</p>

<p>The reason why Rice and other smaller colleges offer a better undergrad experience is because the graduate schools at Rice do not have an overwhelming presence on campus at all (highly unlike the towering ones at Harvard) and so all the faculty attention, resources, and facilities are lavished onto the undergrads.</p>

<p>Rice is solely undergraduate-oriented, while Harvard clearly was made for grad students. Professors do not even want to talk to undergraduates because they are too busy doing research and other more "important" things.</p>

<p>CC is obviously very Ivy-crazed because of the prestige and connections that come with it.</p>

<p>I chose to go to Rice over seemingly bigger names (like Northwestern) because I found a campus and university that fit my needs as an undergrad, and am very happy with my choice. For grad school, however, I will be looking to go to the big names out there, like Harvard or Stanford. But in all honesty, I do feel that Rice's undergrad experience is pretty flippin' hard to beat.</p>

<p>Ideally, people go to the colleges that they like the best and fit them the most--but more often than not the bigger name (and coincidentally, the higher tuition as well) wins out.</p>

<p>This is the problem with free speech...</p>

<p>That's a reasonably subjective argument. One could refute or agree with that...</p>

<p>To say Harvard is overrated is one thing. To say Rice is far superior? That's another.</p>

<p>Rice is far superior in terms of undergrad experience, in my and many others' opinions.</p>

<p>I live near Rice. I know their undergrad reputation. And that's not the claim you made with your first post. It just seems like you're trying to incite controversy, sorry if I read into it.</p>

<p>Harvard has more funding for different programs than Rice could ever dream of. The opportunities with a Harvard BA are endless. To say that Rice is vastly superior? Based on what? Your belief that you'll get more mommy-daddy time in class?</p>

<p>There is a reason why HYPS all are what they are. </p>

<p>Maybe you're just that much smarter than the rest of us and you can see what we're all missing? </p>

<p>"The only thing Harvard has is the name."</p>

<p>Or then again maybe not....</p>

<p>"Professors do not even want to talk to undergraduates because they are too busy doing research and other more "important" things."</p>

<p>Professors at Rice are so much dumber than those at Harvard, they're not worth talking to anyways.</p>

<p>See? I can spew unbased hyperbole, too.</p>

<p>"The opportunities with a Harvard BA are endless."</p>

<p>So basically, you're saying that if you hae a Harvard degree, you're set for life. That is so wrong, there a plenty of Harvard grads who work in coffee shops; seriously, how blinded can you get, noone hires people only because of a degree.</p>

<p>"To say that Rice is vastly superior? Based on what?" </p>

<p>Underrad experience and quality of learning.</p>

<p>"See? I can spew unbased hyperbole, too"</p>

<p>Every Harvard student knows that the teachers don't care about the undergrads. There are numerous surveys and interiews.</p>

<p>"Professors at Rice are so much dumber than those at Harvard, they're not worth talking to anyways."</p>

<p>No they aren't. There are barely any actual "professors" in existence at Harvard, they are researchers masquerading as teachers. They don't give a snap about you, will never take the time to even learn your name, and they don't care if you are dissatisfied, there is always another cog wanting to be part of the machine.</p>

<p>F</p>

<p>Many schools are superior to Harvard: this thread is pointless! =D</p>

<p>Disclaimer: Jmanco does not go to Rice.</p>

<p>I've been to summer programs there. And I've sat in on classes.</p>

<p>And anyways, you can just read how Princeton Review rated it the number one undergrad experience.</p>

<p>Ignore this guy: He/she just joined CC yesterday and has placed up 20 or so ridiculously inflammatory posts. I'm sure an admin will delete the thread and the account soon. </p>

<p>Don't let this rankle you.</p>

<p>Cite your sources, foo.</p>

<p>That was to Jmanco, obviously.</p>