<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=30554%5B/url%5D">http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=30554</a>. Predictably, Yale is #2.</p>
<p>I think the report was about on-campus crime, not total city crime. Yale exists at zip code 06520, not 06511 by the way (for some reason you can't search 06520). 06511 is, if I'm not mistaken not part of yale's campus, nor is it a nice part of the city.</p>
<p>lol that topic title made me laugh</p>
<p>Check the zip for the Admissions Office, bulldogger.</p>
<p>"Yale University Undergraduate Admissions, 38 Hillhouse Avenue, New Haven, CT 06511."</p>
<p>Bulldogger,</p>
<p>I live in the 06511 zip code. It's nice. At least the part I live in.</p>
<p>Also, the entire Yale campus is not in one zip code. Most of it, including all the residental colleges, is in the 06520 zip code, but, as Byerly points out, parts of it, including the admissions office, the Divinity School, the Forestry School are in 06511. The Career Services office is in 06510, and there may be other parts of the campus in other zip codes as well.</p>
<p>you are right, I was wrong.
still, campus crime at harvard is unfortunately high, a problem lamented by the crimson often</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stalcommpol.org/data.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.stalcommpol.org/data.html</a></p>
<p>The Crimson bellyaches about everything as a matter of principle - always has... always will. It is hardly representatative of undergrad opinion generally - never has been.. never will be.</p>
<p>Holy crap Byerly....you are a ruthless defender of harvard :)</p>
<p>The charms of Cambridge -- and New Haven.</p>
<p>"Ruthless" doesn't even begin to describe it.</p>
<p>And yet his Paradise on the Charles can't even out-fundraise a much smaller school in Palo Alto!</p>
<p>372 burglaries compared to 82 is something hard to quibble with, Byerly.</p>
<p>stanford is not "much smaller" than harvard.</p>
<p>22,000 to 14,000 is a big difference, scottie.</p>
<p>4 University of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, PA) 20,612.0
5 Cornell University (Ithaca, NY) 20,292.0
6 Columbia University (New York, NY) 18,478.0
7 Harvard University (Cambridge, MA) 18,429.0
8 University of Miami (Coral Gables, FL) 14,376.0
9 University of Chicago (Chicago, IL) 14,069.0
10 Northwestern University (Evanston, IL) 14,039.0
11 Leland Stanford Junior University (Stanford, CA) 13,325.0
12 Johns Hopkins University (Baltimore, MD) 13,257.0
13 Duke University (Durham, NC) 12,601.0
14 Georgetown University (Washington, DC) 12,240.0
15 Washington University (St. Louis, MO) 11,310.8
16 Emory University (Atlanta, GA) 11,290.0
17 Yale University (New Haven, CT) 11,241.0
18 Vanderbilt University (Nashville, TN) 10,804.0
19 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA) 10,112.0
20 Carnegie-Mellon University (Pittsburgh, PA) 8,840.6
21 Tufts University (Medford, MA) 8,476.0
22 Case Western Reserve University (Cleveland, OH) 8,160.0
23 University of Rochester (Rochester, NY) 7,649.0
24 Brown University (Providence, RI) 7,496.0
25 Princeton University (Princeton, NJ) 6,654.0
26 California Institute of Technology (Pasadena, CA) 2,171.0</p>
<p>They would seem to disagree:</p>
<p>according to u.s. news, harvard has <em>7</em> more undergraduates than stanford.</p>
<p>Harvard is doubtless a great school. It just isn't safe.</p>
<p>That site is notorious for containing numerous errors and mixing up data from different years, but suffice it to say that it nowhere reports the FTE number except (incorrectly) for undergrads in the College. The figure of over 20,000 for the University as a whole includes thousands taking a course or two in the Extension School. By the formula utilized by CAE/VSE - whose data I have posted- more realistic numbers are arrived at.</p>
<p>Is the harvard independent also tainted by over-zealous reporting? </p>
<p>"Whoever said New Haven was dangerous has obviously never been to Cambridge"</p>
<p>I understand that the Crimson is full of cynics, but still, when it reports a crime or a statistic about crime, I don't see how that is obscured by their penchant for "bellyaches." Op-eds are another matter... </p>
<p>As for the zipcode debate, you are right that some of yale exists in 06511, but since the residential colleges, where (almost) all of the students live, are in 06520, it would probably be alot more accurate to give crime for that zip code if we are going to compare it with 02138, which is where all harvard undergrads students live. Otherwise, maybe we should throw into the mix some of the longwood statistics...</p>
<p>I'm so tired of this Harvard bashing. I'm also tired of the retaliation Yale bashing.</p>