Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Upenn, Cornell U...Chance me please!

<p>International student applying for financial aid</p>

<p>2300 SAT l
2390 SAT ll
640 Toefl</p>

<p>Fine transcripts, fine personal essay </p>

<p>No ECs, only academic awards.</p>

<p>Please chance me out of 10. Thank you very much.
By the way, I got one school FA waitlisted and other schools rejected so.</p>

<p>You really have a negligible chance (less than one percent) at top U.S. schools if you don’t have any ECs.</p>

<p>I believe that its kind of hard to give people there chances real of getting into the college of there choice or anyother college for that matter because what we think is awsome and excellent may not be what the admissions committee might think is awsome. I have seen people get 2300 to 2400 on there SAT’s and not even get in the ivy league school they really wanted to get in. So its kind of hard to tell.</p>

<p>I believe that its kind of hard to give people their chances real of getting into the college of there choice or anyother college for that matter because what we think is awsome and excellent may not be what the admissions committee might think is awsome. I have seen people get 2300 to 2400 on there SAT’s and not even get in the ivy league school they really wanted to get in. So its kind of hard to tell.</p>

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<p>There are discernable patterns. Obviously, we cannot predict whether someone will get in with absolute certainty, but that is why they are called chances.</p>

<p>You need to elaborate on your awards - are they national/state/international?</p>

<p>Your SAT IIs are not out of 2400, they are considered individually - what were they?</p>

<p>Your TOEFL is out of 120…I don’t know where you got “640” from</p>

<p>This person is too much of an academic worm. Ivy leagues probably won’t take this person (just based on what the description says up there).</p>

<p>Yeah I am only into academics. I don’t like to do ECs and I volunteered only once in a girls’ school to tutor.
My toefl is paper based system. It is given out of 670.
My SAT ll results are physics 800 chemistry 800 math level 2 790.
My awards are only national. No international here. So…</p>

<p>So, it is no way I can get into an ivy rite? Why doesn’t any school want someone like me? Someone who is only interested in academics…
Thank you anyway.</p>

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<p>Probably not. Even international applicants with major awards (IMO medals and the like) would have a very hard time at the Ivies without ECs. </p>

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<p>They want students who are intelligent and can contribute to the campus.</p>

<p>I think your best bets would be places like Caltech or UChicago that are more friendly towards people like you.</p>

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<p>Caltech is indeed probably more realistic (though still a reach). I do not know where you got that impression about UChicago, however.</p>

<p>UChicago did seem to like those high scoring academic students when I was looking through the resume of accepted students.</p>

<p>But you’re right. UChicago still wants at least somewhat of a mix with other ECs.</p>

<p>UChicago doesn’t seem like it will be in this guy’s range of schools.</p>

<p>You need to aim lower.</p>

<p>Being an international applying for aid will seriously hurt your chances (schools aren’t need-blind for internationals).</p>

<p>If you weren’t applying for aid, I’d say your chances are pretty strong. I know previous posters have lamented your lack of ECs, but I think there’s a general misunderstanding of what ECs are used for. Colleges use ECs and other out-of-school activities to discern what a student is interested in and/or good at, allowing them to build a well-rounded, diverse class. Having national academic awards serves this purpose.</p>

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<p>Colleges use ECs for more than this; they want an involved student body. The decisions threads make this evident. Students with 2400’s, 4.0’s, and perfect Subject Test scores have clearly shown ability and interest, yet they are not reliably accepted.</p>

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<p>Harvard, Dartmouth, MIT, Princeton, Yale, and Amherst are.</p>

<p>OP, you’ll be hard pressed seeing as you have no EC’s. However, are these academic awards super prestigious?</p>

<p>Also, silverturtle, could you please give me your input: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/892181-chances-penn-other-schools.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/892181-chances-penn-other-schools.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;