<p>I haven't taken geometry yet but I'm taking AP Calculus next year (I've taken alg1,alg2, and precal) Do you think I should take plane geometry at a local CC this summer? I have knowledge of geometry, like volumes, rays, line segments, etc but I don't know if the actual "geometry" class teaches more than this. I don't know if I should take it because I can easily self study for the things I don't know. I've also asked my counselor and contacted the schools I'm applying to and they said I'm okay not taking it. Should I just take it just in case? Would this look bad to colleges (i.e. taking a way easy class when you are AP Calc ready). My geometry is okay and I haven't had much trouble with it.</p>
<p>You can skip it since people usually take geom. during middle school. And colleges will just assume that you took it in MS.</p>
<p>You could always take a credit by exam for it if your school has something like that. Oh, and High School geometry can be learned from a Sparkchart. I don't know how well you'll do in Calculus though, since geometry is utilized in that course, especially when you have to do related rates and revolution volume problems.</p>
<p>I've basically learned geometry from 4th grade lol. volume, area, angles, shapes and all those 3d figures, etc. right?? Is there more to this? Should I just buy a prep book and study it instead of taking it at a CC??</p>
<p>AP Calculus often includes a chapter on vectors and their operations, which is about as much geometry as will be used. So geometry isn't a concrete prerequisite (geometry covers circles, lines, power of a point, constructions, simple proofs, etc.).</p>
<p>Furthermore, I think it won't impact college decisions if you do not take Geometry, but you may well regret not self-studying (or taking a course) later on if you go into the sciences. What gaps you leave in your knowledge base now might need to be filled in later.</p>
<p>You seem to know most concepts from plane geometry.
In addition to what you already know you would learn how to construct triangles and quadrilaterals and do some simple calculations in a triangle (e.g. given two sides and an angle, calculate the length of the three heights).</p>
<p>I think if you were fine with Trigonometry, you won't have to worry about geometry too much.</p>
<p>Yes, I also think, trignometry is used more than geometry, in Calculus.</p>
<p>Colleges will certainly assume that you took geometry in middle school as most students applying to good colleges would have taken it in middle school.</p>
<p>middle school geomatry is a tad different than hs geomatry just like american history in middle school is different</p>
<p>to assume they are on par with each other is silly</p>
<p>^I think many middle schools now offer high school geometry as well as Algebra I.</p>
<p>Sadly, mine did not.</p>
<p>you will need geometry for trig........ how can u not take it? my school requires algebra, geometry, algebra 2, algebra/trigonometry or alegebra 3... to graduate</p>
<p>Apparently she did not need geometry to do fine in trig.
I skipped pre-calc (for scheduling reasons) and did just fine in calc without it. I could pick up the missed concepts "on the go".</p>
<p>citygirlsmom: "middle school geometry is a tad different than HS geometry just like American history in middle school is different</p>
<p>to assume they are on par with each other is silly"</p>
<p>Most of the prep schools children take HS geometry at Middle School during the 8th grade after completing Algebra I and Algebra II. </p>
<p>I was not talking about the middle school geometry. My D took the high school Geometry (honors) during 8th grade and Pre calculus (honors) in 9th grade followed by AP Calculus BC in 10th grade.</p>
<p>So I know what I'm talking about.</p>
<p>Don't worry about it the Geometry in calculus isn't that much. I don't think colleges will care either, they'd probably assume that you didn't need to take it.</p>
<p>CanadianGirl - If you are worried you might be missing some concepts, just get a book and self study. With your math background it should not take you much time and it will be cheaper than paying for a community college course (unless you can take those free as a HS student). It is more convenient to be on your own schedule, anyway. If you are planning to take the SAT, you might also want to get a review book for that and make sure you can do the geometry-based questions on some practice exams. I agree with the posters who are telling you that a formal HS course in geometry is not necessary. My son will probably take geometry next year (still in middle school), and I doubt he will have any geometry on his high school transcript.</p>
<p>One question CanadianGirl -</p>
<p>Did you take the alg1, alg2, pre calculus in high school prior to AP Calculus?</p>
<p>If that is the case then you better cover yourself with geometry credential from community college as the 4 year math requirement includes at least the geometry.</p>
<p>Because you cannot take high school geometry prior to alg1.</p>
<p>I would think that if her test scores were good and her other math grades were good, it wouldn't really matter when she took geometry. I don't see why someone couldn't take geometry first, as there is not much overlap between geometry and algebra. It is not typically done that way, but it could be done. Perhaps CanadianGirl could arrange with her school to get credit for ind. study geometry over the summer. I got credit from my HS for ind. study trigonometry when there were no other students planning on taking the class (graduating class size of around 14). If she has time/money for the cc geometry class, fine, but it seems like a waste of time.</p>
<p>You probably can get all the geometry you need from a sparkchart or just a study guide. If you've already taken precal, then geometry should be a snap. If you're in AB calculus, you'll still need geometry stuff for solids of revolution and related rates. If you're in BC calculus, you'll need to have knowledge of parametric, polar, and vector functions (not sure if that's geometry, but it seems like it).</p>
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If that is the case then you better cover yourself with geometry credential from community college as the 4 year math requirement includes at least the geometry.
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ParentOfIvyHope, I don't see why she would have to take geometry. She has taken math courses HIGHER THAN geometry and I am sure that 90% of topics in geometry come up again at some point in trig and calc (besides, she seems to know most of the concepts anyways). Some time ago someone on this board said that he skipped French 2 (went from French 1 to French 3) and was currenlty taking AP French and seriously asked if he would have to take French 2 the next year as most colleges require two years of a foreign language...</p>
<p>Her high school counselor said not taking geometry is fine, the colleges she contacted said that's fine, and she herself does not seem too fond of the idea too. So why bother taking the course?</p>
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I don't see why someone couldn't take geometry first, as there is not much overlap between geometry and algebra.
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Geometry typically includes some calculations in triangles (at least the Pythagorean theorem, usually some basic trig functions as well) and with no working knowledge of algebra a student would have troubles handling the equations.</p>
<p>b@r!um :I’m not sure if you have taken a course in Euclidean geometry but most of the course is actually not covered in any other math class.
Try looking at the book with ISBN 0395977274 to first know what is covered in that subject.</p>
<p>Skipping algebra I to take algebra II qualify for the French analogy but skipping geometry doesn't. </p>
<p>It is not covered by anyother course.</p>