Help! I dont want to go to community college!!

<p>Im a senior in high school and i applied to about 10 schools, such as deleware, pitt, binghamton, stony brook, manhattan
I have a 1260 sat and i am an ib diploma candidate, ive taken a really difficult schedule in high school</p>

<p>My dad can definitely afford to send me to college, especially a state school, but he doesn't want to. He thinks its a waste of money and says the 1st 2 years of college are the same anywhere and kids just go away to party so why should he spend the money. I really don't want to stay home and go to community college because with my sats and background i know i could get in places and it would be a huge waste of all my effort in high school to go to the local cc. I dont know what else to say, what should i tell him to change his mind??
thankyou</p>

<p>Have you looked into outside scholarships? If you can get into a 4-year school with the costs covered, then he wouldn't be spending money anyway, so his argument would no longer be valid. You could ask you guidance counselor or look online to find some.
There are definitely many arguments to be made regarding the social/academic experiences provided at a 4-year school, too, but if your father won't listen to you, maybe you could explain your situation to someone who he would listen to (a teacher, GC, etc)?</p>

<p>I think your dad is mistaken to try to keep you in community college, but sometimes parents don't listen to reason. As Sabster said, maybe another adult would be more influential with him than you would be. Perhaps you could make a deal with him that he would contribute what he would have paid for community college, and you will pay the rest.
If in the end you wind up at CC, all is not lost. Your dad would have no excuses for not financing you at a four-year university after four successful semesters at CC.</p>

<p>There is a discrepancy between the quality of prerequisite courses at community colleges and state universities. Many state universities are really picky about what credits they will transfer in because of this. There are corollary benefits to beginning your education at the same place you intend to graduate, among them are greater exposure to people who will eventually give you recommendations/references, access to career internships/jobs (lab jobs as my case was), and a cohesive social group. Many students who begin at community colleges never end up transferring. I think these are some valid arguments for why you shouldn't plan on attending a community college in hopes of transferring.</p>

<p>Tell him you will hate him for life...</p>

<p>Seriously, the first two years of college are very important.</p>

<p>Tell him you will hate him for life...</p>

<p>Seriously, the first two years of college are very important.</p>

<p>Your dad is right. Most of the schools have transfer cirriculum. If you take the courses listed, your credits will transfer to the state school to cover for the 2 years.</p>

<p>Your dad is smart as well. Why would you pay 250 a credit for psychology 101 when I can take it at JUCO for 100 a credit.</p>

<p>Don't believe what these babies say about bonding, dumb **** like that. Your an adult, you don't need to be treated like a little baby. Go do the 2 years and transfer. You'll save your dad thousands of dollars.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/434458-your-first-semester-experience-ucs.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/434458-your-first-semester-experience-ucs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Read up on what being a transfer student is like first.</p>

<p>Hopefully you will get into Binghamton and even get some money from them. (my son was offered merit$ from them 2 years ago, though it is likely even harder today).</p>

<p>Do you have a car to get to the CC? If not, a reliable/safe car plus insurance, in your age bracket, is likely more than the cost of room and board at the state schools.</p>

<p>If you end up at a CC, don't sweat it. There are lots of very smart kids going there to save money or those who don't want to leave home yet. Transferring is fine. (I transferred from a SUNY to an OOS state school and had no problems whatsoever. Easily made friends.</p>

<p>Good luck and do not despair.</p>

<p>Community college isn't as bad as it sounds. I was salutatorian of my high school class with 1300 SATs. I started out at the University of Rochester - it wasn't the right fit for me so I ended transferring to a community college. I wish I had made that decision to begin with. I would have saved my self 15000 of debt. If your dad is paying for college, I think he should have a say in where you attend. If you are still determined to go to a 4-year school, take out loans in your name with a co-signer other than your dad. Paying for college yourself will foster responsibility and it may show your dad that you are not going to goof off, because after all, the money will be coming out of your pocket.</p>

<p>Take a look at the total financial picture. At CC you will need a car/gas/insurance. Look at the financial aid package at each college. You will be surprised - CC may not be all that cheap due to transportation.</p>

<p>English 101 is English 101 any way you cut it. I don't blame your dad for wanting to save thousands and thousands of dollars. The main benefit of a four-year college is the social aspect. If you get a job and some outside scholarships maybe you can make enough money to make up the difference?</p>

<p>Edit: There's an alternative to cars called "the bus."</p>

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<p>Nope. English 101 as a cattle call featuring some kind of bogus survey textbook with 30-50 other students who haven't voluntarily read a book since Babystitter's Club and sit in lectures texting their friends, vs English 101 in a class of 13-15 intelligent people who like to read and a real professor who assigns real books and knows how to guide a discussion.</p>

<p>I took English 201 (required to transfer) with an English PhD and discussed Macbeth with about 25 intelligent students. Where did you go to community college?</p>

<p>Community colleges vary greatly in quality. Some, such as the one I attended, are very good. Some community colleges even have Honors Programs which are intended to offer rigorous courses to strong students. Other community colleges may not be as strong.</p>

<p>You'll have to research your local community college to try to find out whether it's academically strong enough for you. It's better to ask people who are close to your own level academically to make sure it's a good choice for people like you. Someone who is not as strong of a student as you are might think a college is adequate, when in fact it wouldn't be rigorous enough for someone like you.</p>

<p>Bus service also varies greatly from place to place. For me, the only available bus ran once every 70 minutes. It also stopped early enough that I couldn't have gotten home from either night classes or the evening shift at my on-campus job.</p>

<p>If the only way you can afford to get to community college is an unsafe car, you're literally risking your life. If your brakes fail, you have a problem and so does anyone in your way. But I'm guessing you're in either New York State or Pennsylvania from your list of schools. Both have mandatory vehicle inspections, so if you have an unsafe cheap car, they'll make the decision to scrap it for you.</p>

<p>"My dad can definitely afford to send me to college, especially a state school, but he doesn't want to. He thinks its a waste of money and says the 1st 2 years of college are the same anywhere and kids just go away to party so why should he spend the money. I really don't want to stay home and go to community college because with my sats and background i know i could get in places and it would be a huge waste of all my effort in high school to go to the local cc."</p>

<p>1) It's your dad's money. He gets to decide how he spends it.</p>

<p>2) If you are really good, some college or university somewhere will pony up a scholarship for you. It may in fact not be a college or university that you think is "good enough" for you, but it will be a scholarship. Talk to your guidance counselor about it. If he/she has no ideas, you can start your hunt here:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/291483-update-what-i-learned-about-free-ride-scholarships.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/291483-update-what-i-learned-about-free-ride-scholarships.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>3) Take a good look at your community college. Find out what guaranteed transfer programs are offered. These mean that you have automatic admission to the cooperating 4 year school after you complete a certain sequence of courses with a certain GPA.</p>

<p>Your situation is unfortunate but not unusual. Even if you move out and start supporting yourself you won't be considered independent for Federal purposes
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It is not sufficient for your parents to have not claimed you on their tax returns. In addition to being genuinely self-supporting with no financial support from your parents, you will have to have been living on your own and be able to document an estranged relationship with your parents (e.g., court protection from abuse orders, social worker reports, etc.) or other equally unusual circumstances (e.g., parents both incarcerated).
FinAid</a> | Calculators | Dependency Status | Results

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<p>At the state colleges they have an appeal process to be considered independent and qualify for aid, but even that is a longshot
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The fact that you are self-supporting is, by itself NOT justification for granting a dependency override.
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<p>You could try to pay for it yourself with loans, but graduating college 60K+ in debt is not a good move for most people. Some in your position have joined the military and that's worked out well in the past, although there are obvious dangers in doing so today.</p>

<p>Also, I can really empathize with your situation. For financial and other reasons, I actually did start my undergraduate education at a community college.</p>

<p>The good news is that community college can be a worthwhile experience. For me, it was actually the high point of the years spent obtaining my (first) Bachelor's degree. It's the last two years, not the first two, which really become problematic when there are financial constraints. There usually aren't any truly cheap options for these years.</p>

<p>Do your parents realize that a lot of scholarships are only available to incoming first-year students? If you have or can get such a scholarship, it might be penny-wise and pound-foolish to go to community college. It might save more to lock in the scholarship now while it's offered, making it available for all four years, than it would save to attend community college but have to pay full price for the remaining two years.</p>

<p>Even if you have to start at community college, there are universities where the last two years are reasonably priced. Such schools may be your in-state public universities. If your in-state public universities aren't a good option for you, there are other relatively affordable options. States vary widely in how much of a surcharge they assess OOS students relative to in-state students. For example, the University of Minnesota only charges OOS students $4,000 more per year than in-state residents. The State University of New York system has relatively low OOS tuition, even after a recent 20% increase. (If you are in fact in NYS, this is a moot point...) You could even attend university in Canada. International tuition at Canadian universities is often lower than OOS tuition at US universities of a comparable quality.</p>

<p>You could also initially attend a four-year university which is cheap enough that you don't need any financial assistance from your parents. For example, you could go to your local "directional" school. "Directional" public universities are often significantly cheaper than flagship public universities. As noted above, you could also go to a university which offers substantial merit aid.</p>

<p>Then, you can transfer to the university you really want to be at for the final two years. As a result, the number of years for which you have to pay for this university is reduced from four years to two years. This may make it possible to attend a university which you couldn't have afforded for all four years, at least without taking on excessive debt. The advantage of this approach is that you at least get two years at the university you really want to be at. Also, your diploma is from this university. This might be a preferable outcome compared to spending all four years in an environment you don't enjoy as much and then having a diploma from a less prestigious university.</p>

<p>Despite your financial constraints, it's critical not to attend a university which is a poor fit. It's easy to blindly apply to one's in-state public universities without ensuring they're a good fit first, on the assumption that one cannot afford anything else. (An incorrect assumption, for the reasons noted above.) It's easy to think that because a university is all one can afford, it's better than nothing. This isn't necessarily the case. If you attend a university which is a poor fit and earn a low GPA as a result, you're in worse shape than before you started. Also, the net amount of personal growth in an environment which is a poor fit can be negative.</p>

<p>Good luck! Your situation may not be an easy one, but there are solutions.</p>

<p>1260 sat @@?/?? what the… that even worse then my psat exam score. I dont know how can you peform that badly</p>

<p>This is a 5 year old post. look at the dates Recker12.</p>