Help Kids With College Papers?

<p>I agree that this is a very interesting discussion. </p>

<p>And I agree with Marite that things are in transition right now, as instructors are increasingly realizing the value of informal peer collaboration in learning.</p>

<p>The whole issue of citation/acknowledgement/collaboration/authenticity is also coming to the forefront of the public mind. There have been big cases involving lapses from best-selling authors, professors at places lke Harvard Law School, and reporters for publications as distinguished as the New York Times.</p>

<p>Some of the most recent problems at Harvard Law School involved professors who were relying on editorial assistance from teams of student researchers. It is clear, in retrospect, that sometimes the professors were too busy or preoccupied to exercise proper oversight over their own teams. In one case, a professor signed off on a final manuscript book draft as his own, without realizing that some of the words purported to be his own had been cut-and-pasted in from another published source by a research assistant. (Apparently one research asst had inserted it into the draft with the intention that another research asst. would eventually paraprhrase it and cite the idea to the original source. The electronic post-it note reminder to do the paraphrase and citation accidentally disappeared, so the verbatim text without citation stayed in. Ultimately the professor reading over the final manuscript did not realize that those uncited words were not his own, and so they went into the book published under his own name.)</p>

<p>So it's clear that professors aren't always setting a perfect example for students to emulate.</p>

<p>And standards do differ from context to context. A business memo does not require the same standards of scholarly citation as a term paper or journal article. I also understand that it is standard practice for law clerks to draft the text of judicial opiniions, for junior lawyers to draft briefs which will ultimately go out under the signature of a partner, for speechwriters to draft speeches for politicians.</p>

<p>And technology has also changed so much. Fax machines, email, IM, cell phones, and much cheaper long distance toll rates make possible easy collaborations across far greater distances than ever before. </p>

<p>When I was in college, nobody in my dorm had any kind of phone in their room, let alone a fax machine, cellphone, or computer! The dorm simply wasn't wired for telephone service. There was a front-desk phone where parents could call and leave messages. There was a payphone in each hallway, which offered no privacy. Talking on that phone meant the whole hall could hear. And it was expensive to call home. I remember one phone call from my parents the entire time I was in college--and that was when my dad had gone into the hospital and they wanted me to come home quickly for a visit.) Aside from that, my parents and I communicated by letters.</p>

<p>Under such circumstances, I'm sure it never occurred to my professors that students might consult their parents--or anyone outside the college community--on their work.</p>

<p>I bring a number of perspectives to this discussion--as a parent, as a homeschooler, and as someone who has taught "other people's children" (OPC) of all ages from K through grad school in a mix of conventional and unconventional classrooms. </p>

<p>Back when I taught OPC in a university, it never in a million years occurred to me that one of my students would ask a parent for help. Actually, many of my grad students were older than I was at the time I started teaching them, and their parents typically had less education than they did. But even with my young undergrad students, it never occurred to me that they might ask their parents for help. </p>

<p>I have to say that I had never thought about the possibility that students living away from home would consult their parents on college assignments until this thread came along.</p>

<p>I was not an English professor, though I certainly assigned papers, as well as problem sets, and take-home exams.</p>

<p>I have to say that back in those days, non-English professors were typically not very explicit in talking about issues of citation and plagiarism. We vaguely assumed that our students had learned the appropriate standards from their freshman English courses (or from the writing refresher courses we required our grad students to take.)</p>

<p>The only point on which I remember being very clear was that my take-home exams did not allow collaboration. </p>

<p>I encouraged students to collaborate on problem sets, though I did say students should write up their work independently (i.e., turning in a photocopy or electronic cut-and-paste of joint work was not allowed.) I did not ask students to acknowledge explicitly a list of students with whom they had worked. In looking at course websites these days, I note that an increasing number of professors strongly encourage joint work, but do add the stiuplation that students should acknowledge their collaborators. </p>

<p>This seems like a very good idea to me. For one thing, if I or my teaching assistants encounter a particular misconception cropping up over and over again in correcting a problem set, it's helpful to know whether it's due to widespread independent confusion or whether a single study group got confused on a particular point. For another thing, it's helpful for me to know who is NOT collaborating, because then I can specifically seek them out and encourage them to do so. For another thing, it's helpful for me to understand the sociology of the study groups that students self-select and form. If I find that they are pretty heterogeneous on various dimensions (age, gender, race, nationality, etc.), that's great. If there is some degree of self-segregation going on, that's helpful to know too--perhaps the professor can think of ways to encourage the study groups to mix up a bit more, or to find ways to encourage collaborative learning by occasionally breaking the class up into small diverse discussion groups within the classroom, etc. And professors may also be able to see patterns--e.g., do heterogeneous or homegeneous ability study groups work better?</p>

<p>But the other reason for requiring students to list their collaborators on assignments is that it makes it easier to check whether students are abiding by the requirement to write their work up independently. This probably serves as a deterrent to students who might otherwise be tempted to collaborate in writeups.</p>

<p>But more generally, I think the academic world is evolving in the direction of "If in doubt, cite or acknowledge your sources." You can never get in academic honesty trouble for citing or acknowledging too much. </p>

<p>Technology has changed so much of what is possible and professors' guidelines haven't always kept ahead of the technology. Professors have often given problem sets as "open everything," meaning that students were free to consult books, classmates, notes, etc. </p>

<p>I recently heard about a case involving a student working on a difficult problem who googled on an unfamiliar technical term in the problem in order to understand what it meant. That sort of search would certainly seem to be in line with the spirit of an "open everything" assignment. But what turned up in the search was a complete explanation of how to do that particular problem! The student was uncomfortable and not sure how to complete the assignment after reading the solution, and approached a teaching assistant, who promised the student anonymity and inquired of the professor for a specific guideline. The professor's response was--that's fine as long as the student cites the source and writes it up in his/her own way.</p>

<p>Technology and the increased emphasis on encouraging collaboration has vastly changed the resources available to students for learning these days. It seems to me that professors need to take this into account and come up with clear and explicit guidelines for what is and what is not allowed in light of technological changes. </p>

<p>There are so many gray areas that professors never had to think about before.</p>

<p>The guideline which I am happiest to see professors giving my children is: "If in doubt, err in the direction of citing and acknowledging soruces, or come and see me if you are unsure."</p>

<p>Very informative overall. However, I do not see this gray line between discussing your ideas with someone else,and any of the cases you cite, which are all clearly plagiarism. Helping someone clarify their thoughts is not being a source; the source is the student. I just don't see the doubt in the described instances ,which are totally different from the using of others' ideas or words.</p>

<p>And twenty-five years ago, I sometimes discussed my work with my future MIL slash former Engliish teacher from HS--new technologies do not really change the dynamic as much as you think.</p>

<p>Sac, my husband called my son (the computer geek of the family who trouble shoots all of the computer problems here in the house, or at least used to until he went off to school) in Chicago to ask him how to fix the computer--the hard drive was failing--and S said that last time he fixed it he did so by banging the computer hard on the side. So much for his expertise!</p>

<p>Very informative overall. However, I do not see this gray line between discussing your ideas with someone else,and any of the cases you cite, which are all clearly plagiarism. Helping someone clarify their thoughts is not being a source; the source is the student. I just don't see the doubt in the described instances ,which are totally different from the using of others' ideas or words.</p>

<p>Unless the professor or the institution explicitly requires students to acknowledge informal discussions and consultations, I would never say that failure to acknowledge a discussion that has substantially benefited a student's work constitutes any form of academic dishonesty, let alone "plagiarism." </p>

<p>I still think such disclosure/acknowledgement is desirable and appropriate, even in the absence of explicit guidelines requiring it.</p>

<p>Schoolteachers know that some of their students have highly educated parents helping them with homework and others who can not provide such help. They meet the parents at back-to-school nights and teacher conferences. (Or, in the case of some parents with the most difficult challenges, they don't show up at such events, and teachers quite reasonably assume that such parents are unlikely to be able to provide much homework help.) Hopefully they take that into account in the extent to which they give a student "the benefit of the doubt" on homework grades. </p>

<p>College professors have traditionally not expected that students are getting help from anyone outside the campus. When they grade papers, they have traditionally expected that students have reasonably equitable access to whatever resources exist on campus (the library, the writing center, their classmates, the teaching fellows, the prof himself or herself.)</p>

<p>If I were teaching college students at the moment, now that my eyes have been opened to the fact that some students have easy access via fax and cellphones to brainstorming conversations with parents who are writing instructors and who are not available to other students (some of whom may be first-generation college or have non-English speaking parents), I would want to take that fact into account in grading papers. I would want to give the second category of student more of "the benefit of the doubt" in marginal cases where their paper is midway between two grades.</p>

<p>So yes, the next time I teach a college course, I think I will join a growing number of professors who explicitly state that students should acknowledge any informal conversations or brainstorming sessions which "substantially benefited" their papers, whether they are with roommates or the writing center or with some outside expert to whom they have special access.</p>

<p>Is there any way to police such a policy? As a practical matter, probably not. Just as it's impossible for professors to make sure that students do not collaborate on takehome exams which prohibit it.</p>

<p>It still seems to me to be a policy worth putting in place, to encourage students to reflect on the various influences that have "substantially benefited" their papers. In the end, it is a judgment call on the part of the student. Especially if the informal brainstorming discussion took place late at night when everyone was tired (or over a few beers), the judgment call may not be perfect.</p>

<p>And in such gray areas, I would not say that a student who made an arguably wrong call should be guilty of plagiarism.</p>

<p>To my own children and to my own students, I would say--you can't go wrong if you err in the direction of more acknowledgement rather than less in those marginal cases. If you had a late night conversation with someone down the hall in the dorm and you think it might have been helpful, but you're not sure, what is the harm in acknowledging her and thanking her?</p>

<p>Homeschoolmom:</p>

<p>I agree with much of what you say, but not on grading. In college, the grade should reflect the work, not the amount of effort that went into it, how the essay got written up, the problem solved, etc... When somebody conducts an experiment, I don't care whether she stayed up all night and had to engage a baby sitter while conduting the experiment, or that she missed dinner and her favorite TV show. All I care is that the experiment be successful. And if it's not, it has to be done all over again.
I don't care whether someone did a beautiful outline or none at all, that he tried to borrow umpteen books through interlibrary loan, but was unable to; started thinking about a topic two months before the deadline, etc... All I care is whether the paper is well researched, well argued and well written. Nor do I care whether the author is a first-generation student, a recent immigrant or comes from an affluent family. What should be judged is not the author but the work. It does no one any good to grade different students according to different yardsticks. In fact, it would be better if the papers' authors were not known.</p>

<p>*I agree with much of what you say, but not on grading. In college, the grade should reflect the work, not the amount of effort that went into it, how the essay got written up, the problem solved, etc... When somebody conducts an experiment, I don't care whether she stayed up all night and had to engage a baby sitter while conduting the experiment, or that she missed dinner and her favorite TV show. *</p>

<p>But if one student did the work in the college lab and another student had access to an outside corporate lab with more sophiisticated equipment, would you grade them according to the same standards?</p>

<p>Or, perhaps a better analogy, if one student did the lab with the standard guidance from a grad student teaching fellow assigned to the course--one TF simultaneously guiding half a dozen students, whereas another student had his Nobel-prize-winning dad visit the the lab and watch him and advise him as he carried out the steps?</p>

<p>Well, Homeschoolmom, that's an interesting concept. It may take quite a questionnaire to get all the info you need. i may teach writing, but my kids went to a below-average public HS,as do many others. Maybe you should poll to see who went to prep schools, and so have a stronger background. You could take away their beneifit of a doubt, too.</p>

<p>At the college I teach at, very few students have college-grad parents. Most get Pell grants. However, the other day, one student who was blocking on a paper told me she'd spent the whole weekend talking it out with her non-college-educated mother, an immigrant from Cuba. Another student told me she asks her older sister, an English major at a more competitve school, for help. Some ask an aunt, or boyfriend/girlfriend. I dunno, it's going to take some list of questions to get all the facts, and some interesting algorithms, to decide exactly how to weigh all this info.</p>

<p>Or, you could do what Marite says, and weigh the work, not your assessment of a student's life advantages and disadvantages.</p>

<p>What should be judged is not the author but the work. It does no one any good to grade different students according to different yardsticks. In fact, it would be better if the papers' authors were not known.</p>

<p>I agree that anonymous grading is best. In fact, I have often done this myself. (I did once have an interesting difficulty--a middle Eastern (male!) student who always used perfumed paper!)</p>

<p>But if some students had access to helpful resources for doing the work that other students did not have, that should somehow be noted and taken into account, especially in marginal cases where a student is on the borderline. (And could, at least in principle, be done without compromising anonymity.)</p>

<p>If you want to grade the process, then a differentiation may be made, and perhaps in experiments, the process matters a lot. But I personally think that what needs to be graded is the product. If the result of an experiment done with more sophisticated equipment yields better results, then I'd rather go with the better results.<br>
My S did some problems on his own and did not do as well as he might have. He now has learned the value of going to study group and asking for help from the TF. The fact that he did the first problem set totally on his own does not mitigate the fact that some of his solutions were either wrong or incomplete.
As long as a paper was not plagiarized, I don't care if the writer took two months to think it through and write it, or pulled an all-nighter. I don't particularly care if the novel I'm reading was written over a two months or two years or even twenty years period.</p>

<p>* My S did some problems on his own and did not do as well as he might have. He now has learned the value of going to study group and asking for help from the TF. The fact that he did the first problem set totally on his own does not mitigate the fact that some of his solutions were either wrong or incomplete.*</p>

<p>I entirely agree that it would not be appropriate to adjust a grade for a student who chose not to take advantage of resources that were made available to the entire class. </p>

<p>Indeed, I think it's entirely appropriate to set up grading systems that actually encourage students to take advantage of campus resources. (I know professors who give extra credit points to students who use the writing center, simply to encourage students to use it.)</p>

<p>I have to say that I don't like grades very much. I have always loved teaching and would happily teach anyone who would listen (starting with my younger siblings many years ago!)</p>

<p>But I've never liked grading--it's always been my least favorite part of teaching. There's never a perfect way to assign grades.</p>

<p>I would vastly prefer to write a narrative evaluation (something I get to do as a homeschooler and in various other forms of alternative outside-the-box teaching I currently do) than to give a grade.</p>

<p>And, in my narrative report, I think it would be entirely appropriate to discuss the student's performance as well as the resources available to and used by the student.</p>

<p>I don't really see anything wrong with a kid sending papers home for review. As long as the parent isn't doing the work, what difference does it make? In our case, our kids don't seek our help with papers. Not the one in college. Only very rarely the one still in high school. (I wish she'd let us help.) But I really don't see why a parent couldn't be an editor as easily as anyone else if they have the skill. Think about it...professional writers have editors for a reason. And on top of editors, there are copy editors and proofreaders. Out in the real world, everybody seems to think they're an editor. Who here has never been wordsmithed!</p>

<p>homeschoolmom:
UC-Santa Cruz used to have narrative reports which it recently jettisoned in favor of grades. In some ways, it was great to read the narratives. BUT it took an inordinate amount of time to do so AND in the end, the reader often could not figure out whether the instructor thought the student was an A or B level student let alone A- of B+. There was an awful lot of waffling and hedging in those narratives. I'm used to them, too, since my S's elementary school reports were narratives. Parents often complained that they could not find out how their Jack or Jill was doing after wading through all the verbiage.</p>

<p>Grading is different from writing recommendation letters. An instructor can note in a rec the amount of work that a student put into researching a paper; or, in the case of my S, that he is a high schooler taking college classes. But it does not do my S any good to give him a higher grade than his work deserves. He does not expect it because he wants to be judged on his own merits, like anyone else. And for him, his merits can be found in the work he produces.</p>

<p>Indeed, while students have sometimes challenged grades, they do not do so on account of the effort they put into the work, who they are, or how unwell they might have been while doing the work, or how many other papers were due. They generally do so on the basis of the work itself. This can lead to a very interesting discussion of standards and criteria.</p>

<p>Swarthmore has a wonderful practice of asking professors from different colleges to evaluate the senior theses of its own students. This is a great way of maintaining high standards unfettered by knowing too much about the thesis writers.</p>

<p>*Swarthmore has a wonderful practice of asking professors from different colleges to evaluate the senior theses of its own students. This is a great way of maintaining high standards unfettered by knowing too much about the thesis writers.
marite is online now *</p>

<p>Yes, I like the idea of outside evaluators very much--of separating the the roles of instructor from the evaluator. </p>

<p>AP teachers sometimes also say they feel the same way about the AP exam. It changes the teacher-student relationship. The teacher becomes more like a coach preparing a student for an outside challenge.</p>

<p>Same thing often happens in some grad schools, when profs teach courses to prepare students to pass their general exams. Often the professor doesn't have to issue a grade to the student if s/he passes the general exam by the end of the term. The student automatically gets credit for the course, doesn't have to take the course final exam, and the course grade on the transcript is listed as something like "exempted."</p>

<p>* UC-Santa Cruz used to have narrative reports which it recently jettisoned in favor of grades. In some ways, it was great to read the narratives. BUT it took an inordinate amount of time to do so AND in the end, the reader often could not figure out whether the instructor thought the student was an A or B level student let alone A- of B+. *</p>

<p>As someone who loves to teach, I'd rather not think of students as "A" students or "B" students. I'd prefer to focus on them as individuals, to help them figure out what they want to learn to accomplish their goals in life and how best to learn it, inspire them, challenge them, help them find others to build a collaborative learning community with, learn along with them ... and let somebody else do the formall official evaluation, if necessary, so that students can be sorted into whatever "boxes" society needs for its purposes. To supplement that external "box" designation, I'm happy to write a detailed letter of recommendation for those students who need it.</p>

<p>OH sac
You hit the nail on head. I can't get fax machine to repeat message, one of drivers on computer doesn't work, etc. S can't help me long-distance. Amazing to think I started him on computer so many years ago (the first Apple, purchased for $2000 or so), and now I need him around to fix thing. I've become the older generation. So many times I'd chuckle but go to parents' house to set up new phone, TV., and to help them when just using wrong remote!
Sharing papers is easier these days, because of cmputer.</p>

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<p>Yes, but you are still thinking of grading the student, not the work. It's my fault for speaking of A or B level students. I should have written somthing along the lines of "students who produced A or B level work." </p>

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<p>Yes, of course. But teaching and evaluating are different things. When a teacher writes a recommendation (or evaluation) that teacher assumes a totally different relationship to the student and is in fact entering a relationship with others: prospective teachers or bosses, admission committees, fellowship selection committees. </p>

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<p>Yes, again. And this is where a student's performance can be put into context. "Student xyz more than held his own in a group of students who were majors in this particular field." "For her project, she spent many long hours in the lab." "For her paper, she located and interviewed twenty immigrants." "This student's work improved significantly in this course."
At the end of the day, though, I want to have confidence that the A that my S got reflected the quality of work he produced, not some misplaced notion that he should be graded more leniently for whatever reason. I want to know that the A is an indication that my S is capable of working at the next level of difficulty, not a sign of soft-heartedness on the part of the instructor.</p>

<p>All college professors whom I know (and I know hundreds and hundreds of them) are fully aware, and have been for some time, of the wonderful resources that are available on-line. We rely on them every day. We usually encourage students to use these resources, and to be enterprising and aggressive in this use, even though it increases the likelihood that some students will try to plagiarize or will be tempted to do a simple cut-and-paste job instead of thinking through the problem or assignment at hand.</p>

<p>So one of our tasks is to get students to answer questions and not take a cut-and-paste approach to anything. That said, in the computer world we often take text or images as models or templates from which we modify or create new text or images. This can save a huge amount of time. (Sometimes we take such text or images as excellent examples of how <em>not</em> to do something.)</p>

<p>In such cases, there can be a blurring of where material came from, and in some of the instances cited above the researchers may lose sight of where their "notes" came from, and they may end up plagiarizing inadvertently (which is still plagiarizing).</p>

<p>In a couple of my courses, <em>all</em> materials are on-line from international agencies, government sources, scientific literature (via JSTOR, for example), social organizations, NGO's, and advocacy organizations, and so on. But the tasks that I give to students require them to locate, read, and digest materials in order to make effective analyses and arguments (in debates).</p>

<p>Some of the assignments involve working in groups (e.g., debate teams), but I require written submissions by each student, I evaluate their oral presentations, and I ask other students to evaluate the "contribution" of the members to the group's work and planning.</p>

<p>So while I am encourage students to be enterprising in finding source materials, to draw on the work of others (that's what much research in the humanities and social sciences is, btw), and to work collaboratively, I am still in the business of trying to develop individual capacities and I am required to evaluate individual achievement fairly, i.e., to give grades to individuals. And this requires that both the student and professor follow certain conventions regarding citation of sources, responsibility for their own work, and so on.</p>

<p>[responding to Marite's point that gradies should measure the quality of the work not the effort that went into it]</p>

<p>Many instructors (especially K-12 teachers, but also some professors) use grades as incentive schemes to encourage student effort as well as to report the quality of the work product produced by the student. </p>

<p>Ideally, a grading system that reports the quality of work product would also encourage the effort needed to produce the student's best possible work.</p>

<p>However, even some college professors have learned that it is sometimes necessary to provide explicit grade incentives for effort, class attendance, etc. in order to engage the students' best efforts and to build an overall learning community conducive to the success of all.</p>

<p>High schools do this most obviously--a student who blows off the busywork homework and skips classes, but turns in beautiful papers and aces exams will often get less than stellar grades. The instructor may feel the need to set up an overall grading scheme that explicitly penalizes students for cutting classes or skipping homework. There may be some students who don't need to attend classes or do al the homework to produce excellent work, but allowing them to get off without doing it may have morale and fairness issues among the rest of the class.</p>

<p>Teachers need to build cohesive learning communities, and it's always a balancing act for professors to find the right grading scheme that encourages students to collaborate with one another, to contribute to the overall learning community in sometimes difficutl-to-measure ways, and to maximize each individual student's learning.</p>

<p>I'm struck by the ingenuity and thought that went into a grading scheme where the final exam score F is attenuated by overall effort in the class E according to a formula: F^(a/(bE^2)), where both F and E are measured on 0 to 1 scales, and a < b. F is more or less objective, whereas E is based on subjective observations of the teaching staff and includes things like whether the student attended section and office hours, made genuine, thoughtful, and coherent attempts at solving homework problems even if those approaches turned out to be fundamentally flawed (vs. another student who might have just given up entirely.) Success in future courses, after all, may be as much dependent on acquired work habits and perseverence, as on the level of knowledge a student demonstrates on objective exams.</p>

<p>Some professor's grading schemes also have a "negative" curve to encourage collaboratoin. That is, each student's grade depends on a formula including their own numerical scores plus a small increment based on overall class achievement. (Note that it is NOT based on overall class average, as that might cause marginal students to feel that they might be dragging down the whole class average and therefore feel that they should drop the class. In this case, additional marginal students who hang in there and try their best contribute at least positive marginal points to class achievement rather than negative ones.)</p>

<p>But overall, a big problem with grades is that they are a single instrument simultaneously trying to accomplish many, sometimes conflicting, purposes--to give students a sense of their own performance, to give outsiders a quick read of the student's performance--everyone from the dean to advisors to parents to scholarship agencies to future grad schools and employers, and to provide incentives to direct student efforts in the constructive channels the instructor thinks are likely to be helpful to the students individually and to the class learning as a whole.</p>

<p>I can't help but be struck by the analogies to the Fed and interest rates. They have one basic lever (influence over interest rates via monetary policy) with which to accomplish sometimes conflicting goals--stimulating economic growth and employment opportunities, encouraging investment, controlling inflation, stabilizing exchange rates, etc.</p>

<p>I apologize for my partial responsibility in taking this thread so far afield from the original topic, but I find this line of discussion quite fascinating, as I think about the ways that educational institutions need to adapt to the new technologies that are out there. (Distance-learning presents a particularly interesting example--there the instructor often has very little information about the student or the community surrounding him, the resources it can provide access to--aside from the Internet, etc. Grading schemes that might have worked reasonably well in conventional classrooms may be more problematic in distance-learning contexts, etc.)</p>

<p>Apologies again for taking this so far off topic...I just find this sort of fascinating from the perspective of someone who thinks about education in many different contexts, much of it outside the box. </p>

<p>I don't think there are any clearcut answers about student evaluation systems that are perfect for every context, every discipline, every type of student, and every type of instructor.</p>

<p>But I think there is value for instructors to periodically rethink the evaluation schemes they are sometmes required to devise, and to think about communicating the groundrules and expectations clearly. </p>

<p>As a lifelong teacher in many different contexts, I have found this discussion an especially interesting one.</p>

<p>College is different from k-12. In k-8, my S's grades seldom reflected the work he produced. They usually reflected what the teachers thought he personally was capable of, regardless of the quality of work produced by his classmates. That's because the teachers knew he was working at a different level than his classmates. It was fine by us since he was not being grade-skipped.</p>

<p>As for high school teachers penalizing students who eschew busywork but write brilliant papers and ace tests, that's likely a reason for people to homeschool their children. One can ingrain good work habits in students by giving them meaningful, challenging work. It's only because on the one hand, I'd make a lousy homeschooling parent, and on the other that my S has had access to college classes since 9th grade that we've avoided raising an underachieving semi-delinquent. </p>

<p>Study groups are great and very helpful. But I want my S's math grade to reflect his math-knowledge, not whether he is a likable fellow or not. As a matter of fact, he spent most of his elementary school years doing 3/4 of the work assigned to his groups and never complained. The work was easy for him, he was happily learning; it also meant that others could sit back, let him do the work, and not learn a thing. . </p>

<p>College is different from high school. There are far many more courses at many different levels of difficulty across many more fields. Students of wildly divergent abilities and interests need not all be in the same class. But those who are in the same class should be judged by the same yardstick. It does not matter how many sections or study groups my S attends. If his problems are wrong, they are wrong. Nor does it matter whether a history paper was written by a history major or a math major, or, as I said before, whether it took two hours or two weeks to produce it. When I was in college my roommate pulled an all-nighter an wrote a 30-page paper that earned her an A. I was really jealous, knowing how much I labored to produce 15-page papers. But reading hers, I could see that she truly deserved the A. So who cared that I'd spent 3 weeks on mine and that she'd just begun writing hers at 9PM the evening before it was due? </p>

<p>Instructors may curve more harshly or leniently as a collective incentive. For example, midterms may be graded more harshly than finals will be, or vice-versa. But it is not done on an individual basis. In many college classes, there is a grade for attendance, though it does not mean just showing up. But it is never the deciding factor. </p>

<p>I've read many applications and recommendations over 20+ years. In recs for grad school or for fellowships, it is the absolute kiss of death to say of a student that s/he is "diligent, hard-working, conscientious, blah blah blah", or even that s/he pulled up his or her grade from a B to an A- over the course of the semester.</p>

<p>Marite wrote: "I've read many applications and recommendations over 20+ years. In recs for grad school or for fellowships, it is the absolute kiss of death to say of a student that s/he is "diligent, hard-working, conscientious, blah blah blah", or even that s/he pulled up his or her grade from a B to an A- over the course of the semester."</p>

<p>My experience is exactly the same (and I've been on numerous admissions committees as well as director of a graduate program for several years). Grad schools may value hard work, but a letter of the form that you describe is truly damning with faint praise. Grad schools (speaking of PhD here) are looking for a student's intelligence, creativity, and potential to make an individual contribution to a given field of study. Good work habits are also critical factors to strong grades and a strong CV but if that's the most significant thing a letter-writer can say about a student, every experienced letter-reader would read this as a weak letter of recommendation.</p>

<p>Letter readers are also looking for superlatives, statements such as "D was the best in my class on X," or "among the top 5 whom I have recommended in my Y years of teaching," or "among the most original thinkers among my students" -- adjectives that end in -est rather than -er, or that put a candidate at or near the top of a well defined select group.</p>

<p>I've read many applications and recommendations over 20+ years. In recs for grad school or for fellowships, it is the absolute kiss of death to say of a student that s/he is "diligent, hard-working, conscientious, blah blah blah", or even that s/he pulled up his or her grade from a B to an A- over the course of the semester.</p>

<p>This may be heavily discipline-dependent.</p>

<p>In the experimental sciences, brilliance is valued, but tenacity, conscientiousness, and diligence are also critical. Often grad students will be working as a part of an experimental team and it's important that everyone work consistently and conscientiously together. </p>

<p>Process may not be so important in the humanities, where scholars do not need to work together on projects involving real-time processes or using scarce expensive equipment resources that must be equally shared over time (like observatory time or MRI's, etc.)</p>

<p>A brilliant procrastinator may not be as helpful to the research team's productivity as someone who may not have done quite so well on tests but who has good organization and work habits that are conducive to productive teamwork and getting the most productive use out of limited laboratory equipment.</p>

<p>Tenacity and perseverence in the face of discouraging setbacks are also critical in the experimental sciences. (Think Edison, for example.) Success in the experimental sciences means persevering through a lot of discouraging dud experiments that don't turn out the way you hoped they would.</p>

<p>Example: 2 students undertake experimental research projects with different, hopefully promising topics suggested by the instructor. </p>

<p>One student's initial topic turns out to work great right off the bat. The other student's topic turns out to be going nowhere. The student's topic doesn't seem to be going anywhere, through no fault of his own--it just turns out to be a deadend. He's discouraged but doesn't give up. He keeps working to reframe his topic and tries to figure out a way to salvage something, spending long hours in the lab tinkering, tinkering, and eventually eureka, he comes up with an idea that works out to be just as good a project as the first student's project.</p>

<p>(Oh and by the way, while the second student was spending all those hours in the lab tinkering, tinkering and trying to come up with something, he was also providing friendly companionship, emotional support, fellowship, and helpful ideas to other students in the lab.)</p>

<p>If I were on a grad student admissions commitee, I'd be much more impressed with student B than with student A.</p>