Help needed - do I report an expunged suspension or not?

I was suspended for ten days by my school in NY - but I was notified that the suspension was to be expunged at the end of 11th grade. Specifically, it said that “all written references to the suspension are to be removed and destroyed, with the provision that the suspension be sealed and used for dispositional purposes only in the event of a future suspension.”

From what I can make of this, it is saying that all external, easily-visible references to the suspension (student record/transcript, disciplinary record, etc) are to be removed and destroyed. But of course SOME evidence of this suspension still exists, only sealed away somewhere and used only against me if I got in trouble at school again. I discussed this fact at length with my counselor, of course, and she pretty much affirmed all that.

Now here’s the issue. I know honesty and integrity is very important when it comes to college applications, but my dilemma and currently my biggest cause of stress as a rising senior is what I should do about my suspension. If it’s expunged I really should be able to keep it a secret, but the problem is the question on the CA that asks about your disciplinary history asks “if you’ve EVER . . .”, and this creates this confusing grey area where I technically still would be lying if I answered in the negative on that question …

… but in that case, what the heck is the point of expunging a suspension - or anything you’d rather not anybody else know - for that matter, if you’re going to end up having to disclose it anyways?

My guidance counselor had assured me that she won’t be mentioning my suspension in her LOR since it was going to be expunged. But my biggest fear is the college finding out that I’d lied about my suspension sometime down the line. This is less of a “somehow” and more of a “what if”, since I had wronged another student doing what had gotten me suspended (there was no violence, drugs or academic dishonesty involved, though) and they certainly have the ability and the right to phone any college I’d been accepted to and disclose what I didn’t, essentially proving that I lied.

If that happens, would my reasoning that “I felt I did not have to report a suspension that was expunged” be able to save me from a rescinded offer or, even worse, getting kicked out in the middle of college or even having my degree revoked in the future?

I will be happy if you proved me wrong, but I really wish that the Common App had some kind of solid, concrete policy when it comes to this sort of stuff. I have absolutely no idea what to do with an expunged suspension. If I report it, I’ll hurt my chances heavily (because even though I’ll be taking full responsibility for my actions and appearing “mature” and all that, I know the circumstances around my suspension isn’t something that most adcoms would just brush off as, “eh!”) and render the whole expunged suspension concept a moot point - and if I don’t report it, colleges might take it as me lying on the app if they do figure it out and then it’ll probably be a lot worse.

As a last resort, a sort of balance between full disclosure and not discussing it, I am also considering ticking “yes” for the suspension question but simply stating that “the suspension was expunged” when I am prompted for an elaboration, and nothing else. I saw an adcom on another site suggest this but I’m really not sure how solid that advice is.

I know I’ve done some very stupid and dumb things in my life, but this lack of solid, reliable knowledge is killing me. I’m losing sleep, my fingernails are gone, and I’m overall a wreck. Any kind of response and help will be appreciated. Thank you.

I know you are a nervous wreck about this, but you are fine. The suspension was expunged, the counselor said they weren’t going to mention it. It’s over. Why would you bring it up?

Ironically, I am in a similar situation as you. As Flo123 said, if it is not on your record…don’t mention it.

I’m a parent and here’s what I would recommend - ask if the college counselor will put into writing (an email is fine) what she has told you (“she won’t be mentioning my suspension in her LOR since it was going to be expunged”). Then, keep a copy of it. Don’t check the box on the Common App or put any explanation in.

You may want to have a meeting with your parents and the guidance counselor just to be sure everyone is on the exact same page and has the same understanding of what will and will not be in the LOR.

Thus, should anyone try to inform a college after you are admitted that you had a disciplinary record, you have CYA correspondence that you followed the advice of your guidance counselor and therefore you were truthful on your app.

And, stay out of trouble at least until you graduate, if not forever more.

There is a difference between having an agreement that it won’t be mentioned in a letter and falsely answering a question. If the question asks have you EVER been suspended, the truthfully answer is yes. Read the question very carefully and answer it truthfully. Colleges may word the question differently but the only right answer is an honest one. Anything less than honest could result in an admission being rescinded even if your GC put in writing that he wasn’t going to mention in. The follow up to the yes could be something like I was suspended for a minor violation in 9th grade that had nothing to do with academic dishonesty or violence and my school has expunged the suspension from my record. You are right honesty and integrity is of vital importance.

OK everyone. It was “expunged.” That legally means it NEVER happened. I frequently at deposition have to advise my clients whether they have to reveal past criminal offenses which were expunged. NO! That’s the whole point of the process. It legally never happened.

When my clients choose to ignore my advice and answer that they were convicted but it was expunged, it ultimately hurts their credibility despite the fact that they have been legally exonerated. It just totally confuses the issue. I strongly recommend that you do NOT reveal or discuss it. IF somehow it comes up later, you simply state that it was expunged and you were notified it was no longer an offense on your record. It cannot later be grounds for finding that you were dishonest on the application.