Help- penn state or ohio state?

<p>yeah, I know what you mean by the worn out furniture, we have this in my school in some classrooms as well. I guess you can't help students from writing on bathroom stalls, damaging furniture, or engraving messages wherever they sit. Hopefully the tile and paint thing are exclusive only to those few buildings, though.</p>

<p>Frasi - I'm sorry, but I don't understand the questions you directed toward me on the previous page. If you could rephrase them I would be happy to answer to the best of my ability.</p>

<p>Classroom quality varies a lot. Some classrooms are in basements and have desks with chipped wood, and then you walk into some rooms and think you might be at a fancy business conference. OSU is so huge that there's no way to describe it without leaving many things untold.</p>

<p>Thanks, I was just inquiring about the condition of classrooms, which you covered in the last post.
I know it sounds futile, but I get frustrated sometimes paying 30K a year and sitting in classrooms like the one you described above.I guess this is bound to happen in every state school...
One more thing, are there good study lounges in each hall? Also, how is the library? Is it quiet or do students make a lot of noise? Are the computers around campus modern as well?</p>

<p>The main library is currently closed until Fall 2009, due to renovations. This is a link from the OSU website explaining the closure, as well as the temporary location for most of the main library's book collection: <a href="http://library.osu.edu/sites/about/changes.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://library.osu.edu/sites/about/changes.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br>
We were reassured by the fact that there are several other smaller libraries on the campus. A current student will have to explain how noisy/quiet they are inside.</p>

<p>If you're thinking about transferring to OSU, and haven't applied yet for the 2007-08 year, at this point, it's probably too late for fall quarter admission, even for a transfer student. You're looking at winter quarter, which begins next January. Regardless, if you're serious about this, then you should get on the phone with admissions and verify your deadlines.</p>

<p>Like Neonzeus' child, my daughter has been accepted at both PSU and OSU. We've visited both twice, so far, and are going to make one final round of visits at each school within the next month. Like NZ, I'm also concerned about the (long-term) housing situation at PSU, as well as the pervasiveness of the drinking scene. By the same token, I'm a little bit concerned about the level of safety in and around the OSU campus--my D also likes the idea of a college campus in the city, she's not necessarily street-savvy. On the other hand the Scholar's Program at OSU is a huge plus. So it's all a matter of trade-offs and priorities. And we're still waiting on some RD decisions--the next month will be quite eventful.;)</p>

<p>Libraries are generally dead silent, though I have only been to the science and engineering library. The main library closure is not a big deal - it was gorgeous, but there are plenty of other libraries around.</p>

<p>Frasi, you won't just find a few crappy classrooms at state schools - any large school is going to have a variety. They can't possibly keep 1000 classrooms up-to-date. However, you will have plenty of classrooms that are nice, also. I'll break my experience down for you:</p>

<p>First quarter:
Chemistry - nice lecture hall, average recitation, lab is what you'd expect (has what you need, not state of the art or anything)
Math - average classroom, nothing fancy, but nothing is broken or dirty or anything
Art - what would you expect out of an art studio? It's supposed to be run-down, you know, for inspiration</p>

<p>This quarter:
Chem - same lecture hall, average recitation room, same lab
Stats - really nice lecture hall, carpet and fancy projector system
Spanish - nice classroom, small so nothing impressive, but good desks
seminar - was in one of those conference rooms with a big impressive mahogany table, high-back cushy leather chairs surrounding it. I dropped this, but I did see the room!</p>

<p>^marvelous!</p>

<p>Hopefully everything works out at osu for the next fall. Maybe I will even go to the honors program, who knows.</p>

<p>frasifrasi, I think the reason why the argument turned to Pitt vs. OSU is becasue OSU and PSU are basically identical in experience, but OSU is obviously more highly rated academically. Having spent significant time at both schools, if the question is OSU vs. PSU, I'm going with OSU all the way. Pitt is similiar academically, but different environmentally.</p>

<p>OSU is obviously more highly rated academically</p>

<p>Why would you say that, Pat?</p>

<p>Isn't PSU ranked higher in the sciences and engineering than OSU?</p>

<p>Perhaps you are referring to graduate schoo?</p>

<p>I don't know but OSU's rankings anymore (they get higher every year!), but OSU and PSU experiences could not be identical. Because OSU is the greatest university in the nation! And that's what I will continue to assert.</p>

<p>You mean the greatest in terms of the size of the student body, correct? Because PSU's campus is at least twice the size of OSU's.Valean, what can you tell me about the student lounges in the halls? Do they have individual desks for the students to study? How are the opportunites for an internatinal, pre-med student on campus?</p>

<p>Of course PSU's campus is bigger than OSU's. OSU is surrounded by a city of 500,000 people. PSU is surrounded by cows. It's in the middle of nowhere. Real estate is much more accessible there. :)</p>

<p>Ok.... that still doesn't make OSU the largest school in the nation, unless by largest you mean how long a line it would be if all the students stood next to each other. And what do you have against cow? They provide us with quality milk and cheese.</p>

<p>okay, I know that this is NOT what everyone is really arguing about. But what do you mean by largest, frasi?</p>

<p>This list of largest United States higher education institutions by enrollment includes only individual four-year campuses, not four-year universities. Universities can have multiple campuses with a single administration. Enrollment numbers listed are the sum of undergraduate and graduate students at a single campus.</p>

<p>Top 10 as of Fall 2006:</p>

<p>51,818: The Ohio State University - Columbus, OH [1]
51,234: Arizona State University (Tempe Campus) - Tempe, AZ
50,912: University of Florida - Gainesville, FL [2]
50,402: University of Minnesota Twin Cities - Minneapolis / St Paul, MN
49,738: University of Texas at Austin - Austin, TX
46,719: University of Central Florida - Orlando, FL
45,520: Michigan State University - East Lansing, MI [3]
45,487: Texas A&M University - College Station, TX
44,038: University of South Florida - Tampa, FL
42,914: The Pennsylvania State University (University Park) - PA</p>

<p>when I think of largest I think of campus size, not student body--but who cares?</p>

<p>How are the study lounges?</p>

<p>Frasi about the study lounges. It depends. They have a ton of places to study from what I have seen. again I have yet to visit in late March. But Here is what i know:
- most dormitories have them.
- The Student Union. However its being demolished for total renovation :D lol
- The library: they have two really good ones and a few other that dont look so attractive. there is one right off high street which looks pretty kool from what I have seen. right now thats serving as the substitute for Thompson library on the Main Oval which is undergoing remodelation from the inside.
- The RPAC which is probably the most advanced rec center in the nation, has a ton of study areas.
- I am sure there are many other places, but prior to taking the tour I dont know all the spots :D... OSU is a huge school like PSU and well, there are just so many places its hard to name. I guess it really comes down to staying in the area most of ur classes are cuz it takes like 30 min to walk across campus (according to a video on "theU")</p>

<p>Whats really appealing to me about PSU aside from academics, is OSU's gifted location compared to many of the big ten's :D. Columbus from 1st hand sources is a really nice city and has a ton of stuff to do. U dont have to drive anywhere to say go to a movie theatre or shopping mall as they are right in the neghbourhood. High Street is one of the trendier areas of Columbus.</p>

<p>Valean, can you add to that?</p>

<p>Are there individul desks for students to study?</p>

<p>How are the bathrooms? Do they have stall? What about the students? are they the type that vandalize everything and litter or are they neat for the most part?</p>

<p>I think the PSU study lounges are surrounded by cows too. And I happen to love cows. Particularly when they are broiled.</p>

<p>Seriously Frasi, some of your questions border on silly. Stalls in bathrooms? Uh, yeah. What do you expect, an open ditch? PSU has stalls too, but they are filled with cows. Ok, enough cow jokes....</p>

<p>Columbus is a real city and OSU is a real campus. Students get to study at desks rather than sit on the ground. And they have individual chairs. They even have electricity and running water (but only in the newer buildings of course).</p>

<p>Ok, so I'm kidding about the running water thing. :) </p>

<p>OSU is a major research university. PSU is too (even with the cows). Look at them both and pick the one that feels right. You can only learn so much on a forum like this.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>Yea lol... I personally am still deciding on which college to go to now that I have recieved most decisions back from schools. I gotta tell u ive never stopped to worry about how the toilets look lol... I mean i dont plan on spending my time in the toilet while at colleges :D...
Both schools are great. If you dont like PSU that much because of social life, OSU is very similar in that sence. if you dont like the campus at PSU well OSU is different in that case. OSU has a mix ofhistoric buildings with Really nice modern ones. I like it but not all ppl like that... Academically both are good. PSU is a lil better ranked than OSU however i think it depends on the program u want. for ex: Business is better at OSU than PSU </p>

<p>IMO: Think beyond toilets and desks in classes :D
cuz if not ur gonna probably end up going to a school u wont like.</p>

<p>Ok, forget all that, the ultimate questionis, which is better for pre-med?</p>