Help!!!!!! UVA Mcintere vs Berkeley HAAS VS Michigan ROSS

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Haha! So students can get a taste of that executive corporate officey feel?</p>

<p>I hope you aren’t referring to the psychedelic carpet:
<a href=“http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/blogs/mba_admissions/archives/0122_ross1.jpg[/url]”>http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/blogs/mba_admissions/archives/0122_ross1.jpg&lt;/a&gt;
Complete with black vinyl furniture…lovely.</p>

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Quality and education-wise, no doubt. Asethetically, I don’t think they’re close. </p>

<p><em>I’m just having fun with you guys</em></p>

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<p>“Haha! So students can get a taste of that executive corporate officey feel?”</p>

<p>Looks like a corporate office space to me. But then again, it is a business school. </p>

<p>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally I prefer Ann Arbor to Berkeley. To each his own. Perhaps the following will help you appreciate the bschool a bit more:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/learningcommunity/[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/learningcommunity/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>^ Looks like a Vegas night club crossed with a '60s airport hanger to me.</p>

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<p>I’ve been sitting out all of these April decisions threads, but I have to draw the line with this one and all of the stupidity and false statements propagated by certain U Michigan pom pom wavers. </p>

<p>The fact is that all three of these are excellent undergraduate business schools and each is among the Top 10 in the USA for this. Each will position you slightly differently but the differences in quality of the education that you receive don’t amount to a hill of beans. </p>

<p>If you have an interest in being in California and/or if you are coming from Asia, then Hass will be a good choice. Haas can position you well for the California-based offices of Wall Street firms. </p>

<p>If you have an interest in being in the Midwest or working on Wall Street, then Ross will be a good choice.</p>

<p>If you have an interest in being anywhere along the East coast or working on Wall Street, then McIntire will be a good choice. </p>

<p>One is not “better” than the others and those who claim otherwise are obvious shills.</p>

<p>Also, here are a few data points from Business Week’s Ranking of Top Undergraduate Business Schools:</p>

<p>[Top</a> Undergraduate Business Programs 2010 - BusinessWeek](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/10rankings/]Top”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/10rankings/)</p>

<p>Faculty Student Ratio
10/1 U Virginia (McIntire)
18/1 UC Berkeley (Haas)
16/1 U Michigan (Ross)</p>

<p>Student Survey Rank
2 U Virginia (McIntire)
38 UC Berkeley (Haas)
8 U Michigan (Ross)</p>

<p>Recruiter Survey Rank
4 U Virginia (McIntire)
15 UC Berkeley (Haas)
26 U Michigan (Ross)</p>

<p>Student Strength as measured by Avg SAT/ACT score
1411/32 U Virginia (McIntire)
1400/na UC Berkeley (Haas)
1356/30 U Michigan (Ross)</p>

<p>Teaching Quality
A+ U Virginia (McIntire)
B UC Berkeley (Haas)
B U Michigan (Ross)</p>

<p>If you care about the nature of the classroom experience and like being surrounded by strong students and enjoy being well regarded by recruiters, then using BW’s data, U Virginia McIntire would be your choice. But I think one can make reasonable arguments for either Haas or Ross depending on their post-graduate objectives and geographical interests. </p>

<p>One final point—you don’t need to go to any of these to get to Wall Street. There are plenty of excellent students attending highly ranked colleges that don’t have undergraduate business degrees. Places like Dartmouth or Brown regularly send more kids to Wall Street than any of these undergraduate business schools.</p>

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<p>“Looks like a Vegas night club crossed with a '60s airport hanger to me.”</p>

<p>Well at least they don’t have street people trying to get inside from out of the rain. ;-)</p>

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<p>You obviously have a preference hawkette, and that’s not surprising at all. But those differences are tiny…and if you think they mean UVA’s program is better, you’re deluding yourself. </p>

<p>The BW rankings are greatly disputed. Those recruiter ranks have U Seattle and U Hawaii No. 1 and No. 2, respectively…they weren’t even ranked the year before. It’s pretty much a joke. </p>

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This is not germane to the question asked.</p>

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<p>its killing me.</p>

<p>I guess i will draw a straw or something GODDDD</p>

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<p>^ You say money is not an issue…but, out of curiosity, what are your costs going to be for each? Money is often times a tie-breaker.</p>

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<p>^^^If you got into Ross pre-admit, go there. A bird in the hand…Otherwise go to Berkeley, It is much better know in Asia than UVA.</p>

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<p>novi, the street people don’t venture too far uphill from Telegraph…especially since the trees were removed around the football stadium. ;-)</p>

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<p>Hehe. you mean you have to walk up a hill to get to the Bschool? Too much work. The central campus at Michigan is pretty flat. Advantage U-M. ;-)</p>

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<p>HA TOugh Choice indeed</p>

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Uh huh…but this is your reward:
<a href=“http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/9406532.jpg[/url]”>http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/9406532.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>UCB- Best campus</p>

<p>Michigan- Nice weather- for me</p>

<p>UVA- Close to DC</p>

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<p>“Uh huh…but this is your reward:”</p>

<p>Is that darker shaded area in the background smog? ;-)</p>

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<p>ucb,
For the record, I don’t think one is “better” than the others and that was the central point of my post. I have a personal preference for smaller environments that are more student-friendly (and would guess that McIntire would do the best of these three in offering that), but I don’t think many (any?) employers are going to look at one and say it is “better.” </p>

<p>As for my introduction of other schools into this discussion, it is potentially germane to many readers of this thread. Some innocents (particularly from non-US locales) may fall into the trap of thinking you have to go to an undergraduate business school in America in order to get to Wall Street. You most definitely do not.</p>

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<p>^^ I think those are called hills (or mountains to you), novi. Something we have a lot of out here in the West. </p>

<p>Yeah, it’s got a bit of hazy smog in the pic…but smog is a side effect of a productive economy in a sunny climate…;)</p>

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<p>Understood, hawkette, I too am not a big fan of the undergraduate biz degree.</p>

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<p>Ooh. So those are what mountains look like? :-)</p>

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<p>I don’t know anything about UVA so I won’t comment on that. But I am very familiar with Berkeley and Michigan.</p>

<p>To me, the feel/vibe between the campus/city of Berkeley/Ann Arbor is like night and day. The weather in California and Michigan is like night and day. If you are going to live some where for 4 years, those should be big considerations.</p>

<p>As several others pointed out, if you are a Ross prefer-admit, that is almost a guarantee. Do you want to be at Berkeley for 2 years not knowing if you will get into Haas. Although the subject material of the pre-reqs might not be difficult, the pre-Haas competition is fierce since every pre-Hass students knows that they only have about 50% of getting in.</p>

<p>For Asia, no doubt Berkeley is most well known.</p>

<p>Both the Haas and Ross buildings are nice but I also think that Ross is nicer.</p>