<p>GoBlue,
Things do change. Employers are much quicker to pick up on this than those in the academic world where there is a fixed order. Employers can see their hires firsthand and make realtime judgments about what they are getting. There are also good and bad classes coming out of various schools and employers can see this. </p>
<p>Also, maybe you should check your compass. It’s possible that today’s judgements are the more accurate statement rather than the historical ones. It’s certainly clear that the changes on Wall Street have impacted the way the undergrad business schools operate and train and place and employers in other industries aren’t blind to this.</p>
<p>Re alternative rankings, the USNWR rankings are all based on the research work of the professors. It has almost nothing to do with the classroom experience of the student and nothing to do with the placement record of the school. BYU is a perfect example of this as they regularly graduate lots of excellent, well-trained students and place them in many, many competitive positions and yet the school is absolutely detested by USNWR’s pernicious PA scoring.</p>
<p>I too strongly support the auto-admit at Ross. Second choice would be Haas-Cal due to its much, much larger international prestige (over UVa). Of course, the Haas admit is likely to be a tad more difficult than UVa’s.</p>
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<p>Hawkette, as much as you despise the USNews’ Peer Assessment score, I’m surprised that you buy into BW’s survey. A few years ago, Cal-Haas even admitted the recruiters could be “bought” when Haas jumped ten spots and into the top 10. All it took was wining and dining the recruiters and giving them carte blance while on campus – private rooms, telephones, secretarial help, travel planning, etc. Of course, with the massive UC cutbacks, Haas had to cancel some wining and dining, which in turn created ‘whining’ by the recruiters = lower scores.</p>
<p>Just curious. Does your company send the same recruiter all over the country? In my industry, recruiting is more regional. Sometimes we send alums. I know it is the same with the Big 4’s.</p>
<p>goblue,
There are networks of recruiters that have placement knowledge all across the fruited plain. Yes, most recruiting is regional and incumbent colleges in each region usually have some advantages via their alumni base, but one can definitely get an understanding of true differences (or not true differences) when talking with others in the network from Miami to Atlanta to Washington to NYC to Boston to Hartford to Chicago to Dallas to Houston to St. Louis to Denver to SLC to Seattle to San Francisco to Los Angeles to San Diego to…and across various industries. Trends appear that affect various businesses and their hiring plans/successes while individual schools come in and go out of favor.</p>
<p>So, where are you getting your figures from?</p>
<p>anyway,</p>
<p>I’d personally go for Ross then Haas. I’m not even going to consider McIntire if I have admissions from these two top business schools. Both Haas and Ross are more prestigious than McIntire and prestige is quite important for business graduates. I’m rooting for Ross because I think there is a great disproportion of Asian students at Haas and it’s damaging to Haas reputation for me. I don’t think I’d want to go for a school that’s 70% or so percent Asians.</p>
<p>blue,
I’m not buying into BW’s rankings-if you check my posts, you’ll note that I never even referenced the rankings. However, I do cite several of their data points and folks can disagree about their accuracy and utility. </p>
<p>I don’t really care that much about any of these individual schools (IMO, they’re all pretty darn good undergrad b-schools that can get an individual student to where he/she wants to go and that’s all that really matters to me) except to state emphatically that all of the homers for this or that school regularly give really slanted commentary/bad advice on this site and that frustrates and upsets me.</p>