Help! What job opportunities are there for Media Studies (Radio, Film, and TV) majors?

First off, please don’t ridicule or mock me; I know this degree is considered a joke by many. But film is my passion and all my friends / family are adamant that I study what I love. I understand how cutthroat the film industry is, and I by no means expect to start off at some “Hollywood level” position. I know any TV / Film job is more about experience than education. And I would rather have a low paying job working in production / post-production somewhere than a high paying job anywhere else.

I think going into advertising is a reasonable thing to expect after college. I definitely wouldn’t mind starting off there, or really anywhere that will have me. I’ve heard this degree may assist with options there; can anyone confirm this?

I mean – there ARE people who don’t go to college. Many of them seem to get along well enough to make a living. And Media Studies is no blow-off degree; I’ll be learning techniques for a useful craft, albeit advertising or hollywood production. I’ll be doing what I love and networking with others with the same interests.

I’m minoring in business, too, so at least there’s that. It’s just that… everyone on the internet says “Media Studies is a joke–good luck working at McDonald’s for the rest of your life”. That really scares me… surely there is something this degree can help with??

I’m in the same boat as you. I sort of decided I wanted to major in film studies, but I’m scared about what it can lead me to on its own (I’m planning on majoring in linguistics or international relations). So if anyone can answer, it’ll be super helpful!

look up replies from Taxguy who used to post here frequently. His son went into film.

My D is going in the entertainment industry and has given me some observations. As a film studies major, you try to get your first job at a mailroom of a talent agency. You work there for 1 year, moving up from the mailroom to an assistant, and then you do a job switch based on the contacts that you have made into areas such as development, TV, production, etc.

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@YoHoYoHo Your explanation makes it sound very easy–but trust me it is not. As a mother of a daughter who started into the entertainment field with starry eyes, I think it’s important to share the reality of the business so you and your D can be prepared for the pitfalls.

My D worked for a tippy top agency in their theatre department. (The are at the top in film, TV, sports, etc.) For starters, these very intelligent and well educated assistants are paid $30,000 a year. So good luck supporting yourself in NYC or LA. The only people who can remain in those positions are those living at home or those getting financial help from parents. (This agency and one other vie for “top” agency in entertainment.)

My D was lucky to enter into the company as an assistant to an assigned agent. Many others first start as unpaid interns, work in the mailroom, and then get floater positions. Floaters do not have assigned desks. Sometimes it can take people one to two years to even get a position as a permanent assistant to an agent.

Once an assistant, you can stay at that position for a very long time. In the 10 year period that the theatre department existed at this agency, only two people were promoted from assistant to agent. Yes, two. Some of D’s fellow assistants have been there for upward of 3 to 5 years without any movement. None of the other established agents were leaving, ever…they were making too much money and they were at the top of their field.

D’s close friend became the second promotion for the department about two years ago. Most other assistants get frustrated and just leave. Her friend had interned there for a year after college (Harvard) and worked as an assistant to an agent for over 3 years.

AS part of D’s friend’s promotion he had to go out to LA to attend the agent training program for 6 months or so. In that capacity he got to work a few months in the mailroom and rotate into other departments. So he was at the agency for a period of over 4 1/2 years never making more than $34,000 per year before he got the opportunity to be an agent. And he’s the success story.

He was also lucky that when he came back from LA that he was made an agent within a few months. Some people are recommended for the training program, attend it, and come back to the office to find that they are still an assistant.

Those people may have the option to get an agent position in another department, but generally it’s better to be an assistant in the department that you want to become an agent in. As for switching departments, yes it may be done, but not as easily as you make it sound. So some of the trainees are still playing the waiting game.

D was placed in theatre because she was a MT major. They saw her as an asset to that specific department. It may have been more difficult for her to get an assistant position in another department like marketing or tv.

In the end, my D left the agency to work in the marketing department of an entertainment law firm. After her friend was promoted–well deserved–D knew there would be nowhere for her to go. She stayed at the law firm for almost 2 years, and ended up going back to school for her MBA this fall. She attends NYU Stern full-time.

Ultimately she would love to swing back into entertainment. But only at a much higher level and for a much better salary. As an MBA student she has been offered (and will accept) a summer internship in brand marketing at a pharmaceutical company that pays her almost $2,000 a week. So it is the equivalent of earning about $100,000/ year. Most full time offers are in that range. That is more than 3 times her pay in the talent agency!

Unfortunately in many entertainment jobs, there is not a vertical platform that allows for many promotions. You are an assistant or you are an executive. She is hoping that her MBA and higher level experience will in time give her the opportunity to come back to entertainment at an executive level.

My D was lucky to get a full tuition scholarship through the Consortium to NYU Stern. It made going back to school an easy decision. I will say that as an MBA candidate with a unique background, her experience at the talent agency helped her application. And the agent who she worked for (who was the former head of the theatre department) wrote her a letter of recommendation that must have been quite excellent.

Things worked out–but it was not an easy (or well-paid) path. And btw, being a woman doesn’t help. Of the 2 promotions in the department in a 10 year period, one was a woman who was later fired. My D’s friend is male. Of 8 or so agents in the theatre department, only one is female. And her clients are directors and writers, not talent. There has been very little expansion of the department at all. But when it happens, they look to bring in agents who have a roster of clients.

Sorry for sounding so negative. Feel free to reach out to me if I can help.

Good luck to your D!

@uskoolfish, thanks for your detailed and definitely true description of agency. My D probably has a similar path as your D, though many years later. My D probably works at the same agency and in the same city that your D did.

I was responding to the question about what you can do with a media studies major. And I presume that the op has no idea what career paths are available in entertainment industry so was offering a potential path as an alternative to a below-the-line job that @digmedia talks about, which is always great advice. I’m just offering other ideas.

Opportunities for advancement within agency may be better at a second or third tier agency vs your D’s tippy top agency. Also opportunities for advancement may be better in LA compared with NY, because the number of desks are way higher and the turnover is faster as others leave agency.

The floater and assistant levels of agency have a high turnover. The people in these positions make their contacts and then can move into another job at a different company. Some of them go into other entertainment jobs… production, development. And yes, some go to non-entertainment jobs too bc of the riskiness of an entertainment job.

But I guess that you are right in that if you are in agency, you can be stuck at $30k per year for 10 years. And even if you go from agency to production or development, you still would be making a low salary.

The entertainment industry is definitely not for the faint-of-heart, and not for the non-networker.

But if you never go for it, you never will know. It’s good to go in informed, though.

Op,
Yes you are correct that a media studies degree can help with an advertising job. It helps with the filming of the ads.

To clarify, D left her agency job after about 2 years. Others in her department have been assistants for way longer. D saw that there were not going to be opportunities for advancement within the department and decided to reevaluate her goals.

Sounds like she has a goood head on her shoulders

My D is going through the same situation. She is currently temping as an admin outside of the entertainment industry. Because she wants to work, she has been on applying for admin, social media coordinator or marketing asst jobs outside the entertainment industry but always keeping an eye on any openings in television, her interest. Even then, non industry full-time entry level jobs want 2-5 years experience. How does that even make sense?. She will need a full-time permanent job soon for insurance purposes and to get her independence going.

How do you even get your foot in the door? Connections and networking have not helped. One probably needs to know someone way up in the entertainment ladder while being able to work for nothing. Her first attempts included production assistant jobs through networking for commercials which were 10-12 hour days running to buy props and if they didn’t like the props, she got stuck with the bill. The last gig, which did pay, took 3 months to pay her for a one week gig. It really is tough and frankly, I wish she could go back to school for an MBA as uskoolfish’s D has done but $$$ is an object. She did a masters in screenwriting overseas so she is on the hook for that. She did some really good work in her masters program but it has not opened any doors. She does however have a communications undergrad.

I think the skills learned can be used in many other fields. From what I have seen, besides being creative, they are articulate and learn to pitch their product and build on skills such as entrepreneurship, storytelling, attention to detail, networking and communication skills. All of which are needed in many other jobs if HR and hiring managers were to not focus on the major but the skills. In my finance job, we have a colleague who majored in theatre and then went for her MBA, she is the most interesting person on our team and clients love her because she has these skills.