Hi future freshmen! =) You're so adorable!

<p>Hello there, I thought I should post up here too since I did stalk this site last year and really could have used a current student's opinion on things to help me with my decision.</p>

<p>I'm currently a freshman at Drexel, majoring in Software Engineering in the iSchool. I am also in the Honors' College and live in Millennium Hall (the "Honors Learning Community" dorm). I'm also female, so... yeah. =)</p>

<p>Ask me anything and I'll try to answer to the best of my ability, and as honestly as possible!</p>

<p>I would love to hear about your experience at Drexel. </p>

<p>What is the campus culture like? Are there many commuters? Does the fact that students come and go from school on coops have any impact on the feeling of campus community? Do you feel safe on/around campus?</p>

<p>How is the food at the dining hall? How are the dorms?</p>

<p>What do you do on a typical weekend? </p>

<p>How are the academics and the advising? Do students have a hard time getting the classes they need? Do you take any classes at night? </p>

<p>What, in your opinion, are the best and worst things about Drexel?</p>

<p>Sat score: 1980
GPA: 3.95
Rank:1 out of a class of 100
Expecting 800 in chemistry and more than 700 in physics SAT 2
I took O and AS level exam Had 3A*s(Maths, English, Pakistan studies) and 6As(bio physics chemistry accounting Urdu islamic studies) in O level and 5 As in AS
I am currently studying Maths physics chemistry biology further Maths. (in AS I had Urdu language instead of further Maths)
I attended a summer school in global leadership and American history at valparaiso university
I have interned for three weeks with WWF.
I taught voluntarily at an orphanage for a month
HEAD GIRL at my school
President Environment club at my school
General secretary of my school’s Red Cross Society
Interned at human resource development network for office experience
Won a silver medal in a national mathematics contest
Interned at the ministry of electricity (of Azad Kashmir)
Chief editor or my schools monthly magazine
President of the committee organising the school Olympiad
Chaired a committee at a MUN in a leading university in the country
I am an international
I wrote my personal essay on how a disastrous earthquake changed my perspective of life and made me what I am
I got one of my professors at the summer program to write one reccomendation and the other one should be good too. </p>

<p>I have already been accepted at RIT, College of St. Benedict’s and valparaiso university, with the maximum scholarships these universities give to internationals! I’ll be very grateful for your responses!!</p>

<p>@pamom59
Hi there!</p>

<p>I would like to preface all of this that this is all my personal opinion, and of course, every student’s experience here is quite different from everyone else’s. So if you find someone that says the complete opposite of what I’m saying, we could both be telling the absolute truth. It’s just our personal perspectives from our personal experiences here.</p>

<p>What is the campus culture like?
It’s hard to say as this is a pretty… vague question, haha, and I’m not quite sure how to interpret the term “campus culture.” It’s a very urban campus, and there’s a lot of students. I can’t exactly explain it, but I would describe Drexel as very professional and career-oriented because of the co-op system and the university’s general treatment that its duty is to create students that will absolutely excel in their careers. As for students, I would say most people just seem… active? You can’t go to Drexel and just around not caring about anything, not knowing what you’re doing. I don’t think you would survive. =P</p>

<p>Are there many commuters?
I would say so, yes. I feel like for every six on/near-campus students, you find one who is a commuter. It’s not too big of a deal, it just it makes it more difficult for them to participate in late-afternoon/night clubs, activities, and group project meetings. Drexel does have an organization for commuters which does sponsor activities and events what seems like every other week: make-your-own sundae Sunday and such. xD As far as I know, anyone can attend these, it’s just nice that Drexel tries to provide for more commuter involvement.</p>

<p>Does the fact that students come and go from school on coops have any impact on the feeling of campus community?
Of course I don’t know what a non-co-op college feels like, but people going on co-op is just part of the college. Many/most co-ops are in Philadelphia or the surrounding area, so as long as they’re not working, they can come back to clubs activities and things. I’m in a multi-cultural club (I won’t name it to be more identifiable than I already am), and this is definitely the case: people just come while they can. Which is the same thing as if you were busy with classes: you just come when you can. But that’s just how Drexel is. If you’re not on co-op, then you’re probably sending out your resumes and applying for your next co-op. It’s just the way Drexel is. =P</p>

<p>Do you feel safe on/around campus?
On campus? Yes, very much so. I’ve walked through campus at 1-2am, and still you always see Drexel’s public safety team, riding on bicycles in their yellow jackets. Drexel’s rather concerned about safety and all being in the city, and being so concerned with their reputation of course. I’ve also walked a few blocks north of the dorms during the night, but with a friend, which always a good thing to consider if you’re out late and off campus. You generally don’t want to go too too north or northwest when it’s late out. Or of course use common sense when you do: walk with a friend, keep an eye on your surroundings. The usual stuff for living in a city. =)</p>

<p>How is the food at the dining hall?
Quite a few people complain about the Hans (main dining hall), but I don’t mind it too much. It has enough variety, so I stick to the International foods section with a cup of tea, as I find the sandwiches off the grill give me awful indigestion. The Asian section is pretty good too, and if don’t mind waiting in lines, the Vegan section is always fresh and fantastic. The issue I have with the dining hall is that it’s about five blocks from the dorms, so I only go there about once a day for lunch, while I’m down on campus for classes. By the dorms there is the Northside Dining Terrace, with a Chick-Fil-A, Curritos, Subway, Take-out sushi section, and a little sort of convenience store. Standard food. I don’t mind, I’m not picky at all. =)</p>

<p>How are the dorms?
Well I live in Millennium and… well, the rooms are small. XD The lounges are basically a few couches by the windows at both ends of the hallway, and as I hate to study in my little box of a dorm, I usually find somewhere else on campus to study (and there’s quite a few places to hang out/study, don’t worry :wink: ). Anyway, it forces you to get to know your floormates and dormmates well, and many people like the social aspect of it. The single-serve showers and toilets are very nice, and a cleaning lady comes through about every day, so it’s usually pretty tidy. But the view over the city is to die for, so I can’t complain too much. XD Every dorm is a bit different, has its own feel to it. Some are traditional, some are suite-style, some are learning communities, etc. Though they’re awfully expensive too, at $1k+ a month while apartments are easily half that. But for a first year, it’s a good experience of course. =) </p>

<p>What do you do on a typical weekend?
This past weekend I went to a few club meetings, watched about five movies in a row, and caught up a bit on my homework. Last weekend I went home (I live about two hours away… not too far, but far enough :wink: ). The weekend before that I went with a few friends to the anthropology museum on Upenn’s campus. Two weekends before that I went to a party. =P I talk to my friends going to other colleges around PA that are in the middle of nowhere, and I literally cannot imagine living like that. XD You’re in Philly. If you can’t find anything to do on a weekend, you’re obviously lying.</p>

<p>How are the academics and the advising?
I would figure this to be a rather major-specific question, as of course the engineering classes are different from the humanities ones. At the moment and in the fall, the classes are pretty on-par with the difficulty and workload of my high school AP classes, but managing 4-5 of them at once takes some getting used to. I will say that the grand majority of professors I have had really and truly enjoy their subject. They might not be the best and most organized teachers, but they all are worthy members of their field. In my experience, they have been the people to always sit down with you and give you help if you ask for it, and of course they all have office hours. It’s just the matter of asking them for it. There’s also a math tutoring center, a cyber (computer science/programming-ish) learning center, a writing center that will proofread your papers and give you advice. I mean, as long as you go there and ask for it. And as for advising, I’ve never had a problem with contacting my advisor, but the iSchool is the smallest college: we have like fifty freshman or something. It may be different in other colleges with many more students (like the College of Engineering for example), but haven’t heard anything about it, so I don’t know.</p>

<p>Do students have a hard time getting the classes they need?
Ahhhh well of course I’m biased, I’m an honors student so we get priority registration. So I’ve always gotten classes when and with who I’ve wanted. I know some classes are only offered at certain times of the year, but I have never heard of a case where someone seriously needed a class and couldn’t take it. I feel like if you would bother your advisor and the professor enough they’d have to let you in. :wink: I’ve heard of people on co-op complaining that there were no decent classes left to take (on co-op you can take one class without paying extra for it, but you register for them the week before classes start). But otherwise I’ve never heard of such a problem.</p>

<p>Do you take any classes at night?
Yes, I take one 3-hour lecture 7-10pm, once a week. It’s pretty relaxed, and you can tell most people are ready to fall asleep, haha. But thankfully the professor is very understanding and kind, the matreial is light, and the latest we usually go is 9:15. Other weeks were were out by 8:30. It’s not too bad, it’s just that sometimes I miss club activities and meetings because of it. And after it I have much less time to do homework before I sleep. =P Walking back to my dorm is not a problem, like I said before.</p>

<p>What, in your opinion, are the best and worst things about Drexel?
Worst thing first. Generally, it is expensive. The tuition is expensive, the dorms are awfully expensive, I have the “cheapest” meal plan and still don’t use it all, etc. I’m actually doing a survey for my English class at the moment, and most freshman are paying $30-$40k overall this year. Drexel also over-admits, taking in more freshman than they have room for, knowing that many will drop out. So sorry to all you future freshman, but even if you’re accepted and admitted, some of you will be in over your head (which is okay; Drexel is not for everyone!).</p>

<p>Best things? Well, in total and complete honesty, I feel like I’m getting the experience and opportunities to do well in my field. The co-op program is Drexel’s huge redeeming factor. Despite everything, if it still had co-op, people would still want to go here. And beyond that, it’s professional and career-oriented-- they want you to get a career and do well in that career, which is really what college should be for. So it’s comforting that all the other students are of that mindset: really very headstrong, forward-looking competent people (though that may just be public high school me talking =P). It’s a great university environment, something is always happening, there are opportunities everywhere to do whatever you want to do, as long as you want it badly enough.</p>

<p>Errr, does that answer all your questions? Ask some more, keep them coming!</p>

<p>@Rme123
Ummmmm you seem kind of epic amazing. xD I know if you were a domestic student you’d probably be accepted and in the honors college in a heartbeat. And I’m inclined to think that even as an international student, it would be the same case, lmao. I don’t know, I’m not really good at Chance Mes? I will say that I’m pretty sure that Drexel accepts by major, so what major you’re applying to does determine if they’ll favor you or not. But you seem fantastic, I’m sure you’d do well either way!</p>

<p>Thanks a lot olliie.
My major would be mechanical engineering. 3 co-ops.</p>

<p>@Rme123</p>

<p>Wonderful! Engineering is definitely harder to get into/get scholarships for, but you’re still a pretty strong candidate. And good choice, 3 co-ops! ^^ Yup, take as many co-ops as possible! Good luck!</p>

<p>FYI, current freshmen are adorable too! You’re all still so young and enthusiastic. :-P</p>

<p>Olliie, is there another application for the honors college?</p>

<p>Hi Ollie. Thanks for your great answers. Here are a couple more questions.</p>

<p>1- what, if anything, surprised you or was unexpected about your Drexel experience, either in a good way or a bad way?</p>

<p>2- what other schools did you consider attending and what made you choose Drexel over those schools?</p>

<p>3- how would you rate Drexel for school spirit/pride? Are athletic events popular (your bball team is doing amazing this year)?</p>

<p>4-do you have friends in other majors and how do they like their majors?</p>

<p>5-how easy or hard is it to change majors at Drexel?</p>

<p>@sarahjudith
Oh don’t say that. It makes me still feel so young. >< Hahah but thanksss <3</p>

<p>@Rme123
When I applied there wasn’t. They kind of just put me in there… so I was all “Er okay cool =)”
But with a little research I found this:
[Incoming</a> Freshmen | Honors Program | Drexel University](<a href=“http://drexel.edu/honors/incomingStudents/apply/Incoming%20Freshmen/]Incoming”>http://drexel.edu/honors/incomingStudents/apply/Incoming%20Freshmen/)
So yes since it’s February you do need to apply. =P</p>

<p>@pamom59
1- what, if anything, surprised you or was unexpected about your Drexel experience, either in a good way or a bad way?
Hmmmmm good question, let me think about that! I would say that it is pleasantly challenging. Before I came here I judged it by the middle 50% of SAT scores of admitted students and may have sort of judged it to be less prestigious than some other schools I applied to (even though I’m from PA, I hadn’t heard of Drexel at all before they sent me mail!). But the academics really are by major-- the engineering program is fantastic and very challenging, while other programs seem… annoyingly easy in comparison (xD as bad as that sounds!). So don’t judge Drexel overall as a school, look at the individual departments, because they are vastly diverse! But I am pleasantly surprised at the student body here. Most people I come across are really just competent, diverse, interesting, and quite intelligent people. =)</p>

<p>2- what other schools did you consider attending and what made you choose Drexel over those schools?
I applied to I think 11 schools overall (not the best strategy in hindsight xD). From least favorite to favorite: RIT, Susquehanna U, U of Scranton, Harvard (mom made me do it ><), Lafayette, RPI, U of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign, Penn State - Main, UPenn, Drexel, and Bryn Mawr. Got rejected from Harvard (lol), wait-listed to UPenn, and was accepted to all the others. I actually really loved Bryn Mawr and had my heart set on it, but it was wayyy too expensive (and their CS department was like 3 students xD). Penn State was another option, but when I visited their CS department just seemed so… normal and boring. xD Not that I visited Drexel’s CS/SE department when I toured it, but with all its reputation in engineering and technology I figured it would be a good shot. Plus co-op. Plus Philadelphia. But the main reason, ironically, was that even though Drexel gave me $0 financial aid (in stark contrast to everyone else), their merit scholarship was more than enough to make up for it. So for me, Drexel was the cheapest choice by far (again, ironically xD). I think it unnerved me how obvious the choice was to pick Drexel, especially since I spent so much time applying to/visiting/exploring other colleges. =P Crazy, but I guess it kind of sort of mostly worked out in the end?</p>

<p>3- how would you rate Drexel for school spirit/pride? Are athletic events popular (your bball team is doing amazing this year)?
Yes our bball team is doing amazing and uhh… I have to admit I’ve yet to go to a game (I’m sorry! I’m sorry! ><). It’s a good amount of school spirit. People are always complaining about the cost, construction everywhere, etc, but I think most people are glad to be here. I think mostly everyone would be proud to say that they go to Drexel (unless you’re talking to someone from UPenn xD). But yeah, decent, good amount.</p>

<p>4-do you have friends in other majors and how do they like their majors?
Considering my major has about… 12 students, yes I do have lots of friends of other majors! xD Ummm, well generally I suppose they do like their majors, because if they didn’t they’d probably switch. xD Case in point, we started out with about 30 SE majors, who either couldn’t take the pace of the programming in SE 101, or just really hated it. The engineering majors are all in the same freshman engineering classes, and have robots and things, which everyone seems to find awfully annoying. I do know a few biomedical engineering majors who have to take all the freshman engineering requirements as well and they all think it’s ridiculous. xD Biomed seems to be a lot of work. Too much work for me. =P I know a quite few IT/IS majors from the iSchool, the IT guys are mostly into computers (obviously), but some of the IS guys/girls are more into the technology/business part and can’t stand programming (and I wouldn’t blame them-- Python just looks awful xD). I know an Animation major and an Architectural something major, and they always seem to be doing projects and deadlines. I know one Culinary Arts major, and he seems to be enjoying his time. I know a few Nursing majors… that’s a lot of studying and work, but they like it. Everyone else I meet seems to be a Bio major, and I suppose they like it well enough. I do know two girls in an accelerated Bio/some kind of MS/PhD program, and they’re obviously studying, doing homework, writing labs, all of the time. Aaaand the general joke is that Business majors don’t do anything, but I don’t know any well enough to confirm that. xD Anyway, in general, people do like their majors. There’s some classes that they dislike because they seem inconsequential and irrelevant to their professional lives, but again, if they didn’t like their majors, they wouldn’t be in that major/wouldn’t be at Drexel. =)</p>

<p>5-how easy or hard is it to change majors at Drexel?
Well the longer you wait, the harder it is obviously. =P Because of co-op and all that, you’re taking major classes first quarter, as opposed to other schools where you can flounder around and “explore” your interests with “gen eds” your first year. So of course it’s better, if you don’t exactly know, to pick a major close to what you’re interested in, figure it out from there, and hope that your credits overlap to the major you finally pick =P. I’ve heard it’s quite easy to switch majors within a college, less easy to switch majors between colleges (Engineering to Arts and Sciences for example). But of course if you hate your major and want to switch it, then you need to switch it, no question. I mean, it’s your life you’re talking about. It’s just a matter of getting forms signed and such. And again, the earlier you do it, the easier it will be for you. =)</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Surprising (good and bad) - the construction. They’ve gone above and beyond my expectations (especially with the gym and PISB), but it’s annoying to have the fences everywhere. It just keeps going!</p></li>
<li><p>I considered 2 other schools. One was too close to home and the other was more liberal arts-y, and I wanted a more straightforward curriculum. Also, Drexel was in the city and had the option for co-ops.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>3- Our men’s basketball team ROCKS! The games are packed, the students are rowdy, and other teams are envious of our student section (or perhaps they just don’t like us because we taunt them…hmm). I’ve been going to basketball games for 4 years and I love 'em. We also get lots of free swag from the DAC Pack. </p>

<ol>
<li><p>Everyone has friends outside of their major…unless they are a loner or really lame lol. Opinions vary.</p></li>
<li><p>The paperwork is simple but requires a bunch of signatures. </p></li>
</ol>

<p>Personally, I think your son or daughter should be asking these questions and not you. I know that you want to help, but it should really be his/her decision on where to go, and it shouldn’t be based on prestige or other BS reasons.</p>

<p>@olliie - Trust me, you have a lot to learn still. It’s funny to look back at your freshman self as you approach college graduation. Plus, you don’t really start to feel “old” until you’re able to legally drink and then you watch all of the freshies literally flock to college parties.</p>

<p>thanks to both of you for your replies! I’m sure that your answers will help many people who are lurking/posting here…</p>

<p>@sarahjudith- yes I wish she would ask the questions, however, I think that she is in denial at the moment as far as focusing on her selection of a college (lol)…but if you were in her place, what questions would you be asking? are there questions you wish you had asked, but didn’t?</p>

<p>I’m still recovering from thinking my younger friends in high school are so young, I can’t imagine what it’ll be like when I’m not a freshman and am looking down on the new freshman. -.- Of course you’d be better at answering these questions. It just randomly occurred to me a few days ago that quite possibly there’s a ton of people on here who are stressing out about this whole college thing, and if I can make that easier on them, that makes me feel quite good. <3</p>

<p>Well pamom59, I don’t mind you asking these questions since I know daughters can be… difficult. =P I was kind of awful too. During some college tours when I was utterly uninterested for whatever reason, I just started to… well, poke fun at how hard they were trying to recruit me, and then mock people in my head. =P It’s a lot of stress on the parents I know, since this is your child you’re coming from a different perspective, thinking about anything and everything, and their future in the long run, while their concern is probably just simply, “Would I fit in here?” =) Plus, you’re probably paying for it, so your input still matters quite a bit.</p>

<p>But I do think sarahjudith has a point. I feel like Drexel is a school for students who are rather independent people who take the initiative to move forward for themselves. Because there’s tons of opportunities here, one really just needs to take the first step. Which I think many people do since they’re paying so much and working so hard to be here. =P Then again I really don’t have any other college experiences to compare it to… so… maybe I’m just stating the general feel of every other college campus.</p>

<p>Basically the most valuable thing to do is the visit. That’s pretty much the bottom line. I know Saturdays are Accepted Student days, but there is seriously no one on campus on Saturdays except for tour groups, so… try coming on a weekday. =P Just get a feel for how the campus is, how the people are, how students spend their lives… idk, I just think it would be enormously valuable in definitely deciding yes or no.</p>

<p>As for questions I wish I had asked… I think I should have learned what the iSchool was before I applied to it. xDDD Of course it’s lovely and has free printing and a nice computer lab and quite often free swag, but I really didn’t know anything about it before I came here. Because in fact the SE major is totally messed up weird different in that you can be an SE major from the College of Engineering or an SE major from the iSchool… and there is literally no difference between them except which advisers you get and what is listed on your registration information. =P And I looked and I looked everywhere online, but since it’s such a small issue that applies to like, ten people, I let it go. xD So for you/future students that means: get to know your department before you come. Or at least do some major-shopping to see your options. This site is actually quite helpful in figuring out what’s going on academically. It has major descriptions, requirements, course descriptions… everything.
<a href=“Drexel University < 2023-2024 Catalog | Drexel University”>http://www.drexel.edu/catalog/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Anyway if any lurkers have random questions, man do I love random questions. =P But yeah, whatever, this thread is just here~ to answer random questions for anyone that may be snooping around. ;)</p>

<p>@pamom59 - Your daughter is like my sister - she refused to acknowledge the college selection process until my mom forced her to. I’m not sure if there’s anything that I wish I had asked. Of course Drexel has its pros and cons, but overall I’m happy with my experience here. I did very well for myself and I will be moving on to bigger and better things from here. </p>

<p>Oh, and I want to clarify the whole commuter thing with Drexel. Most of the upperclassmen live off-campus, but they are within a few blocks of Drexel in Powelton Village or Mantua. So it may seem like the campus is dead some weekends, but if you browse the neighborhoods there’s plenty of students.</p>

<p>ollie - I hear you about a typical Drexel student being an independent career oriented type…but it also strikes me that the Drexel program could help to mold a more aimless student into a career focused one- especially with the coop program essentially forcing you to get your resume out and apply for coop jobs-- whereas an unfocused student attending a typical university might simply continue to drift aimlessly without focusing on how their education relates to an ultimate career goal.</p>

<p>Hi ollie,</p>

<p>I am seriously considering Drexel but the money problem might force me to go elsewhere.</p>

<p>I got accepted to Drexel with sub-20,000 scholarship per year while another student in my class who had lower SAT/GPA/rank than me got a 26,000 scholarship per year. And I was simply wondering how do they decide who gets how much money?</p>

<p>And can you appeal/ask for more money from Drexel in terms of scholarship? Can you ask for more money in terms of financial aid through Drexel’s institutional fund?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance for the help. Your advice/info will really help me make my decision on where to go to college.</p>

<p>@pamom59 - Well yes Drexel does basically force you to look at finding your career. You can’t really quite hide from that here. =P So yes it would help her in that respect. Just… be gentle with your daughter, I guess? You can give her all the information and your little nudges, but where she wants to live for the next 4/5 years is ultimately up to her. =)</p>

<p>@free2rhyme
=( I’m sorry about the money problem. I’m pretty sure that Drexel accepts/gives scholarships according to college and major, so more popular majors (cough engineering cough) are harder to get into/get money for than others. It may also be due to a time difference, as I think if you apply earlier you’ll be more likely to get a better scholarship. And I’m sure ECs and other… experiences are factored in to their decision. But mostly such a big gap I think is due to the difference in majors/difference in date you applied.</p>

<p>About appealing a scholarship, I haven’t been able to find information on it. I do know that you can appeal your financial aid package, but of course you’ll need to see how much financial aid you’ll be getting first and that involves writing a very good letter and providing as much evidence as you possibly can about your financial situation. My advice for right now is to first briefly email the financial aid office asking if it is possible to appeal your scholarship, and how you should go about doing that.</p>

<p>Then some general tips about appealing that/your financial aid:

  1. Drexel is known to be stingy with financial aid. Their excuse is that paid co-op usually makes up the difference, but not all co-ops are $15k/year (the average, as they say), nor are they all paid, actually =P. But in general they are very stingy with financial aid. =P
  2. I hear Drexel Fin Aid Office is a “bureaucratic nightmare.” So if you talk to/communicate with anyone, make sure you get their name, so if anyone gives you trouble you can point out, “Well yesterday so-and-so said this…” And don’t be afraid to be aggressive and pushy. Well not TOO pushy but xD just be persistent and keep after what you’re there for.
  3. Of course, be unique and heartfelt in your letter. If you really want to go here, then tell them that. And make sure you tell them why. And make sure you are incredibly specific and detailed with this, so you stand out of the crowd. If one of Drexel’s endeavors or research projects truly inspired you to make you want to go there, tell them that. Just be unique, incredibly specific, and honest. That’s a general tip I actually learned while here.
  4. Make sure you include other comparable scholarship offers from other colleges, and kindly ask if they could make up the difference. Standard CollegeConfidential trick, I think. =P</p>

<p>Aaand that’s pretty much it. I wish you the best of luck in it. Drexel is a rather expensive school unfortunately, as it doesn’t have a very big endowment compared to other comparable universities. Paid co-op will help and will help for your experience/job prospects, but it is still awfully awfully expensive. I don’t know how other people do it, paying $30-40k. If I didn’t get the scholarship I have now, I absolutely would not have gone here.</p>

<p>Olliie you absolutely rock!!! I like the way you have answered the questions. It is almost like you are writing as you thinking …no planning which is the only way one get’s an honest view of things.</p>

<p>Well I am a junior and like pamom59 said about her daughter have not developed any interest in looking at colleges seriously. What with all the AP classes, HW, AP exams, SAT prep etc…I feel I have no life;)…and now on top of that start looking at colleges!!!</p>

<p>My dad’s persistence though has had some strange effect. He took me to Lafaytte, Lehigh and Drexel (was there last weekend) and I think I am slowly waking up from my slumber. I started reading this thread only because he showed it to me.</p>

<p>You have given a lot of information so am going to have to read it again before I ask any question…but you can be sure I will…just really need to figure our what I want…but he keeps saying don’t do that as he was forced into making a decision before he went to college on what he was going to study. He likes the whole idea of explore, investigate, be creative…and stuff…don’t get that completely but beginning to make some sense</p>

<p>…why does it have to be that hard</p>

<p>Well i second that jerseyshor!
You absolutely rock olliie :)</p>