High School Class of 2017

<p>@folkiestcat‌ So its supposedly easier? :slight_smile: :slight_smile: </p>

<p>I absolutely HATE the new changes. I was really good at the difficult vocabulary and the “broad” math was awesome.
And this will not narrow the so-called “wealth gap”. Has anyone ever thought that maybe the rich are better because they typically value education more? I say this not being part of this “rich” class, but while knowing many “rich” people. All of the “rich” people I know are relatively smart.</p>

<p>This has to do with the increase of minorities who take the test and are passing. College Board collects data for ethnicity, but you can clearly see the increase of minorities taking the test (lets not take in account Asians), and it’s also clear that Asian’s have a disadvantage since they have a extremely competitive pool but Asian’s have the highest median of income in the US, compared to blacks who have nearly half the median income but non competitive. (When I refer to competitive, for the Asian pool scoring 700 on math gets you to the 75%ile of the pool, but for blacks a score of 700 would yield a flat out 99%ile out of the pool)</p>

<p>This is also an interesting article on whether income rate has causality or correlation to sat scores.
<a href=“D-Ed Reckoning: SAT Scores and Family Income”>http://d-edreckoning.blogspot.jp/2009/09/sat-scores-and-family-income.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Interestingly (and supporting what you said), most of my smart, rich friends are Asian…
Loved this quote from the above article:

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<p>I wouldn’t be too conclusive, as the article at the end of my post before mentioned that this was causality.
The article mentions this:
“Suppose we were to graph average SAT scores by the number of bathrooms a student has in his or her family home. That curve would also likely slope upward. (After all, people with more money buy larger homes with more bathrooms.) But it would be a mistake to conclude that installing an extra toilet raises yours kids’ SAT scores.”</p>

<p>Results can be hilarious, I can probably make a casual relationship between the amount of apple products in a household to sat test scores (Rich can afford such luxury and entertainment).</p>

<p>That article is really interesting.</p>

<p>What really irritates me is that there is not an bubble for “Middle Eastern.” I am thrown in with Caucasians, when really, people from the middle east ARE as a matter of a fact, minority. </p>

<p>Some of my best friends are Asian and Indian and they are smart as hell… The caucasians at my school on the other hand don’t really try. Some do, but the majority don’t.</p>

<p>I would be thrown under ‘rich’ I guess. I have 5 bathrooms in my home, but really I do not think that that would make any difference because what really matters is my intelligence and SAT score.</p>

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This is the most factual sentence I have read today.</p>

<p>Its the honest truth. Everyone is like “oh its high school. No need to stress out” and “Freshman year, gotta take it easy” or “Senior year, already accepted into college, no need to try”</p>

<p>But if you look at the top of our the graduating class this year,… my grade is filled with competitiveness, the top %10 are the minorities. Why? because they are the people who started from the bottom, and need the education. They are wealthy but they used to not be. They want to make a name for themselves The rest can live off of their parents or go to some local college or something.</p>

<p>It’s really the question of how bad do you want it? Minorities try their best because they believe in meritocracy more than nepotism which caucasians tend to think about.</p>

<p>Are you guys gonna be studying for the PSAT? is that even something you study for?</p>

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now we here.
Yep, that’s true. Minorities have the mentality that “education will get you places”. As a minority myself, I know that is true. My parents were raised in an environment where they were ranked on every test they took and would be rewarded handsomely by their school and their parents if they were at the top of their class. They knew from early on that education takes you places. Of course, their education system wasn’t the best either, with excessive importance placed on memorization and not on creativity, but I still say that a system that rewards “excellence” (whatever that is) is good for society and the individual.</p>

<p>@livelaugh7‌ Probs not because I know I’m going to clear the cutoff for NMSF.</p>

<p>@DigitalKing‌ I may only study the vocab and grammar. I took the SAT test in 7th grade and got 800 math and 400 on English… English is of course, my second language</p>

<p>And I couldn’t agree more! Prestigious schools combined everyone “white” as Caucasian and put other minority groups that have the mentality of education=success as their own bubble. I think the whole system is flawed</p>

<p>@livelaugh7

Yep. It is. </p>

<p>Yeah, English is my weaker subject, but only because its relative to math.
I took the ACT last year no prep: 35 math, 34 science, 29 english, 25 reading
As you can see, I need to work on the English and reading sections</p>

<p>I haven’t taken a SAT yet, but these scores translate to being near the NMSF cutoff, so I’m not going to study too much…</p>

<p>@DigitalKing‌ me too. I am bilingual and having English as a second language is difficult. It really is a mater of studying, which I am gonna do when I figure out what book is the best</p>

<p>@livelaugh7 I’m bilingual too, except English is my first language (I can’t read or write in the other language I speak).</p>

<p>@DigitalKing‌ What other language do you speak?</p>

<p>@livelaugh7 Hindi. You?</p>

<p>@DigitalKing Arabic</p>

<p>Here’s an interesting article regarding immigrant minorities vs other minority groups:</p>

<p><a href=“http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2014/03/18/a-tiger-of-a-book-n1810354”>http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2014/03/18/a-tiger-of-a-book-n1810354&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Note to mods: this isn’t about race in college admissions so much as it is about race in high school performance.</p>

<p>@tomatox1‌ Very interesting article.</p>

<p>My belief is that there is no longer a “minority group” in America because America is based off of minorities attempting to find prosperity. There is only one majority group and that is the “English/Irish/Scotish group” which is popularly said to be “Caucasians” but the term caucasions in actually more than the majority. I would argue that there are more small minorities than people take account to be. And since America is vast, one can no longer say there is a minority group. Maybe 20 years ago there were, but no longer. Most people are somewhere at the same playing field in education… IDK if that made any sense</p>