High School Honors Science Program at Michigan State ( HSHSP )

<p>So those who applied…how high is this on your list of choices? It would be my first choice if it didn’t cost so much money. So I think my first choice is a paid neuroscience internship at Emory.</p>

<p>@biovball my first choice would be Clark scholars, which gives you a $750 stipend, but I probably won’t get in. This is my second choice and Florida SSTP/upenn trees as my third choices. I already got into governor’s school for healthcare for my state, but id much rather do lab research over the summer</p>

<p>Looking forward to get rejection or acceptance without financial aid which is rejection to me as well. I just got into SSEP at Smith College without FA…lol</p>

<p>got my confirmation email yesterday.</p>

<p>Anyone have an idea of when decisions will be sent out? Last year, the earliest ones came out around this time, but the application was due two weeks earlier this year.</p>

<p>Okay from what I understand from this program</p>

<p>If your SAT / ACT is below the average… Your chances are risky… It doesn’t mean you won’t get in though</p>

<p>There are programs still out there so you may want to consider applying</p>

<p>By average I mean like if you’re a Out of state applicant </p>

<p>Less than a 2000- SAT and 28- ACT. As for GPA if it’s lower than a 3.5 - you’re in a risky situation, unless of course you attend:</p>

<h1>1 A school where grades aren’t inflated actually (still kind of low though…)</h1>

<h1>2 Michigan high schools</h1>

<p>Good luck to everyone! I actually know a couple of HSHSP-ers on the west side of coast.
Geographic wise, I believe they want to grab some from California, some from New York, etc. There’s a list on the internet.</p>

<p>If they do a geographic distribution and select from the best of 24 it would be something like:</p>

<p>10 Michiganders, 3 Texas, 3 California, 2 New York , 3 from England states (i.e. Connecticut, Massachusetts and etc.), 3 any others (i.e. Florida and etc.).</p>

<p>Based off of last year’s rumors and threads:
People who’ve gotten in have achievements like USAMO, perfect SAT/ACT, Rank top 1% in class, Science Olympiad medals , and much more!</p>

<p>Also, if anyone needs help on answering weird questions like:
How much money do I need to bring? blah blah blah, I can ask about it.
How’s the social life? blah blah blah</p>

<p>If anyone has any questions for last year’s HSHSP-ers, I’ll ask them about it for you guys. Peace out!</p>

<p>Not a single one of us had anything approaching a 2000 or 28, to my knowledge. Pretty sure everybody was 2200+, although there might be a couple exceptions? Being from Michigan doesn’t make it easier, to my knowledge - there wasn’t a noticeable achievement gap between those of us from Michigan and those who weren’t; of the Michigan kids, 2 are going to Stanford, 1 to Harvard, 1 to Dartmouth, 1 got in literally everywhere and hasn’t decided, and I didn’t keep up with the last one.</p>

<p>I also find it highly unlikely that you know a couple HSHSPers from the West Coast, at least from last year (I suppose you could know from previous years?) seeing as last year we had a grand total of one girl from CA, and nobody else was farther west than Texas.</p>

<p>There were exactly 2 USAMO qualifiers, and I don’t think I even had time to send in an update about USAMO before getting my acceptance (I’m not 100% sure on that though). I know the other USAMO qualifier definitely sent that in though, because she made it sophomore year.</p>

<p>There were, I think, 2 or 3 2400s that I know of out of the 26 of us. Probably a solid number of 36s. Almost everybody was top 1%. Science Olympiad medals aren’t particularly impressive unless you’re at the national level. (Although interesting sidenote: SciOly was founded at MSU)</p>

<p>Last year we had 6 Michigan, like 5 NY, 1 CA, like 3 FL, a couple from other Midwest states, 1 NC, 2 CT, and a TX or two. I can’t exactly remember, but Alpha is definitely overstating the Michigan bias; I think there are more applicants from MI which is why there are more accepted, and I personally know a kid with 2400/36/USAMO/4.0 from Michigan who failed to get in. It’s a pretty selective program that’s going to look a lot at your essays, but it’s also really hard to figure out why we were picked. We did have pretty good chemistry though.</p>

<p>Also, if you want to ask last year’s HSHSP-ers… I’m right here.</p>

<p>@stressedasian152,</p>

<p>is this a good program from competition perspective?
do most people submit to intel/siemens?
are the mentors helpful ?
are there graduate researchers as well ?</p>

<p>which are the popular research fields ?</p>

<p>Any stats on projects will also be helpful</p>

<p>How much help do you get in editing papers etc?</p>

<p>Around 1/3 are SIEMENS^</p>

<p>also, could you tell me what they typically look for in an applicant ?</p>

<p>Yea guys stressedAsian125 is a legend. He got into MIT and Stanford</p>

<p>3 siemens semis, 1 siemens finalist. 7 Intel STS semis, 1 STS 5th place. Very solid considering that only 25 of us finished the program (we started with 26, but one of us left because he needed to devote more time to studying for IChO…lol)</p>

<p>A lot of us submit, yes, although personally I got too lazy for STS, something I later regretted. Most mentors are really helpful and work with you in the lab, I know that some labs actually went to lunch together everyday, and dinner, and somebody I know probably spent more time with her lab group than with most of the kids. Personally, I had the most laissez faire mentor; I think I was the only HSHSPer allowed to work alone in the lab, but I could always call if I had a problem, and there were a lot of other labs in the complex I could go to for help.</p>

<p>There are graduate researchers; I unfortunately disproved a student’s masters project by doing the data analysis that rejected her hypothesis, haha. All of the labs are really different.</p>

<p>A HUGE portion of the research is bio, probably like half of the projects. Another quarter to a third is chem. There was only a single theoretical physics project, which was my first choice, but I didn’t get (I’m very glad, actually, because no research was actually done; when the presentation was given it looks like all that was done was the running of linear regression tests on existing data… not a very fun seven weeks if you ask me). There were 3-5 engineering projects as well.</p>

<p>Again, how much help you get in editing papers is dependent on the mentor, but my mentor was, as I said, one of the least involved, and I still got more than enough help. Towards the end, when you submit your final paper to Dr. Richmond, everybody runs out of time for last edits (we’re busy hanging out, hooking up, and working on presentations) ((I’m joking about hooking up)) and really, they’re not very good, but most mentors are willing to still continue to edit your papers once you’ve left for Siemens/Intel STS.</p>

<p>Dr. Richmond says she looks for excellence in science and a passion for science. Honestly, if you don’t love science, research sorta blows. That’s just how it is. I can’t tell you exactly what she looks for, because when only 26 people get picked, only one criteria isn’t going to narrow it down to that few, but that’s the big thing.</p>

<p>And Alpha… how do you know that…?</p>

<p>Because I love yu</p>

<p>This is actually really scary. Who on earth are you?</p>

<p>Thanks a lot, @stressedasian.</p>

<p>I bet they look at numbers - grades/SAT.
Rest is all essays and recs.</p>

<p>how many applied this year would you know, alpha2014?</p>

<p>Siemens finalist was physics. Intel STS 5th place was chem.</p>

<p>I think almost all the semifinalists were either bio or chem.</p>

<p>cause yu’re famous around the world ofc :)</p>

<p>I’m not even remotely famous, and I’m getting really creeped out.</p>

<p>Guys let’s make stressedasian even more creeped out
He’s from Michigan and did a project in organic chemistry xoxo</p>