<p>A review of FSU's website has produced a list of Top 50 programs, similar to what UF has advertised as their list of Top 50 programs. Note that this list incorporates several different ranking services, including US News.</p>
<p>FSU - Top 50: 74 programs, graduate and undergraduate</p>
<p>UF - Top 50: 76 programs, graduate and undergraduate</p>
<p>Not too much different.</p>
<p>But the holy grail unfortuently to most people is US News' overall national rating where UF is 50 and FSU is 109. While I believe in looking deeper for those good programs most people don't want to or do not have the time to look at and let alone FSU's notorious party image doesn't help. FSU is a good school and I have many friends going there, it is just no where near the extreme competitive nature of UF.</p>
<p>I agree that UF is 'up' at this point in time. However, that has changed over time and will likely change again.</p>
<p>It will of course, I think the first thing FSU administration needs to do is clamp down on the adverse 'extracurrhics' on campus. While socialization on campus is a must for a real college experience, it is time for FSU to work to shed that party image if it wants to raise the general respect rating for the school. I respect FSU as everyone does, but everyone also ties extreme partying with the school and that can hurt.</p>
<p>I agree. Hopefully, from what I've read, that party image is slipping away. FSU wasn't on the party school list this year but UF was. It's progress, but it will take time to change. </p>
<p>I've written before that my one daughter at FSU who is a science major does not party (her mother and I could likely tell over time) and neither do her peers. I guess it really depends on the major.</p>
<p>"I agree that UF is 'up' at this point in time. However, that has changed over time and will likely change again."</p>
<p>Please take off your Garnet & Gold goggles. Most of the esteemed faculty members at FSU have already retired, and there hasn't been any sign of replacing them. Also when you are the first public university in the United States that tries to build a Chiropractic School it doesn't bode well to the academic community.</p>
<p>Interesting, but unimportant.</p>
<p>Neither the faculty nor administration at FSU had anything to do with that silly idea. The Florida Legislature can and will direct the affairs of state assets as they see fit, even if it is misguided. </p>
<p>If they wanted to, they could bring that idea back up and force UF to take that program. The BOG could protest, but the legislature could likely force the BOG to see things the legislature's way, if you know what I mean.</p>
<p>The faculty at FSU riduculed the notion from the start and were rightly insulted by it.</p>
<p>"Neither the faculty nor administration at FSU had anything to do with that silly idea."</p>
<p>Please do some research before you start spouting out such misguided information. The Key players involved with the Chiropractic Debauchery were Senate President Jim King (FSU alumni), Senator Dennis Jones (Chiropractor), John Thrasher (Board of trustee for FSU & Alumni), and to some extent T.K. Wetherall. Ultimately the appropriations were given by the legislature, only after FSU lobbyists petitioned for it. The faculty at FSU were kept out of the loop throughout the whole process. After learning of the proposed public Chiropractic School that would be opened on their very own campus, almost half of the faculty members at the fledgling medical school threatend to resign. After these events transpired the Board of Trustees at FSU had to figure out a way to remain neutral. Ultimately they allowed the proposed school to get axed by the Board of Governors.</p>
<p>Let's see what news reporting has to say:</p>
<p>I don't see where there was any support by FSU staff - other than a lukewarm response from Wetherell, a recovering politician, so as not to annoy powerful FSU alums in the Legislature.</p>
<p>This was a political battle that was properly and soundly defeated to the credit of Florida State University.</p>
<p>By the way - shouldn't the School of Crop Circles be more properly located at UFL, since it is the state's ag school?
: ^ ></p>
<p>That was not FSU's falt at all, but being a state university they are after all funded and sanctioned by the State of Florida, thus if the legislature says to build a chiropratic school, they have too. FSU has some work to do and to be honest, I would never attend that school let alone any Florida institution, but they certainly have the ability to be on the level of a UF as long as the administration works towards it.</p>
<p>Almost forgot:</p>
<p>FSU wants to hire 200 top-level faculty members.</p>
<p>See:</p>
<p><a href="http://pathways.fsu.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://pathways.fsu.edu/</a></p>
<p>Like I said, Wetherell is a recovering politician:</p>
<p>Very tough to stop once started down that path.</p>