hm are there placement tests for freshman?

<p>just wondering</p>

<p>I think there's just a math and foreign language placement test depending on which college you're in.</p>

<p>i'm certain foreign languages have placement tests, regardless of what college you're in.</p>

<p>foreign language is not a requirement right?</p>

<p>Depends on what college you're in. For CAS, you're required to take at least 3 semesters of a language OR if you qualify for AP credit or do well on the placement test, then you're only required to take one 200-level course.</p>

<p>er seriously?
what if im proficient in another language as a native speaker?
i am in cas btw</p>

<p>that doesn't count.</p>

<p>Are there any language requirements in ILR? If so, will a 5 on an AP language test exempt me from some or all of them?</p>

<p>If you're a native speaker, then you have to take the placement test. That doesn't mean you can get out of it, because they make the placement tests hard enough that you still end up taking another language class. For example, I had a friend who was FROM Taiwan. As in, she grew up there, went to high school there, and came to Cornell for college. She only got placed into Chinese 209.</p>

<p>and the 209 is significant how?
very hard to believe btw if she really went to Taiwan's highschool and can't even fulfill an exemption requirement</p>

<p>I don't know what you mean by significant, but 209 is third semester chinese for heritage students. And she's not the only one who didn't place out of chinese entirely who's from china/taiwan. I know of many students whose chinese is much better than their english who only got placed into 209.</p>

<p>wow...... thats ridiculous
how in the world can a non native speaker manage then?</p>

<p>Well, you have to realize that some native speakers don't know the grammar of their language that well. Language is not just about speaking and listening. Anyway, many non-native speakers do well on the placement exams because they know the grammar as well as how to speak, read, and listen.</p>

<p>What does the language placement test consists of? How is it structured?</p>

<p>The chinese one was a timed essay. I took the Latin one and it was some grammar problems, a translation, and lastly an essay. I think it varies immensely for each department. I think for some departments they just want to meet you and speak to you in that language to decide which class you should be in.</p>

<p>I'd bet that friend of yours went to a school like Taipei American School? Where things are taught in English? I have a friend who moved from Taiwan to Canada in middle school and still placed out of the 300 levels...</p>

<p>Perhaps, but chinese is definitely her better language. </p>

<p>The key point here is that the chinese department makes the language test hard enough so that native speakers can't even place out. That's one quirk of the department. The other is that there is a "heritage" students sequence that is much more accelerated than the normal sequence. From what I've heard, chinese 110 uses the same textbook as chinese 301, though one is in the 100 level and the other is in the 300 level. when they see a native speaker, they will place them into the heritage track. So someone whose chinese is at the 400 level for the normal sequence will be only placed into 209 because they are chinese. I think they do that to make people take chinese classes no matter what. By the way, chinese 209's focus is essay writing.</p>

<p>that sucks major ___</p>

<p>what are the math placement tests like?... specifically the one that places you out of EDUC 115... is it like the AP exam?</p>

<p>bump.... please</p>