<p>oh99 groups of all seniors (or any group of older students) will have priority over your group, regardless of your lottery number.</p>
<p>As a sophomore you will have priority for suites and doubles.</p>
<p>I don’t understand the confusion over the housing lottery this year. The housing website explains it fairly well. The major change is that your lottery number has SIGNIFICANTLY LESS importance than it did back in the day. Now what matters are these seniority and reverse seniority points. The signups now go by seniority points. So say for suites, the total amount of points possible is 18 [(6 sophomores at 3 points each) I am discounting incoming freshmen because I’m not entirely sure about them]. All groups with 18 points register first, their order then determined by lowest lottery number. Then the groups with 17 points, then 16, etc. So your lottery number only determines when you pick within your subgroup based on seniority points, which is obviously a lot less important.</p>
<p>oh9999: A group of 4 sophomores has practically zero chance of getting Livingston apartments. Any group consisting of seniors, juniors, or even 3 sophomores and one junior will get priority before a group of 4 sophomores. Even with lottery number 1, your odds are very, very slim. You should definitely look elsewhere for housing.</p>
<p>Rhetorical you explained it well. I think there are going to be a lot of confused people during the selection process because they are not reading the directions.</p>
<p>oh9999 don’t look at it that way. I do feel that as the students advance in level, they should be entitled to ‘better housing’ (ie non-dorm options). It’s too bad they didn’t just make the lottery all-seniority. </p>
<p>This year is going to be very confusing but I understand why housing wanted to give Sophomores some reverse seniority: they are trying to be fair to everyone and they don’t want to essentially ‘shut out’ lower level students from all preferred housing. I still think it should be seniority across the board though.</p>
<p>That being said, you are in excellent shape for a sophomore. You are underweighted for apartments but overweighted for suites. So go for a suite. It’s more private than a dorm and close to the dining halls. With a 20’s lottery # you should have your pick of suites. Although they allow groups of 2, 4 and 6 to apply, make sure you have a group of 6 to maximize your chances.</p>
<p>Lots of people would love to be in your housing lottery situation right now.</p>
<p>To the people with the highest lottery numbers: everyone who applied for a lottery number got housing on campus last year. It was most likely dorms for the last numbers but they got housing, so don’t worry about being forced off-campus. </p>
<p>If you are looking for roommates to form your own group or join with another group or individual, you can try posting your request on FB via Rutgers Resident Knights, or your class year FB page, for example Accepted: Rutgers Class of 2014 or 2015, etc etc. </p>
<p>You can also sign up for Rutgers Roommate Gateway which tries to match Rutgers students with other students seeking roommates. For this site, I would advise either turning off your personal info to the public or using a temporary email address for responses. My son used his real email last year and got some serious spam that is still ongoing.</p>
<p>If anyone has decided on off-campus housing I would start looking now as the more desirable locations can fill up quickly.</p>
<p>The hardest part about getting housing is getting everyone together and on the same page, so get organized. Have someone in the group personally visit the place before you get your whole group to go see it; apartments are highly variable in condition and cleanliness so never assume until you have visited the location.</p>
<p>Here is the off-campus housing link to help you get started. <a href=“Places4Students.com - Helping Students Find a Home Away from Home”>Places4Students.com - Rutgers University - New Brunswick, NJ;
<p>Hi I have a group of 4 rising juniors and our lowest number is 3557. Would we have a chance of getting an apartment on Busch?</p>
<p>“What’s the difference between suites and regular dorms?” </p>
<p>If you go to this page, you can read about all the housing options in detail.
[Browse</a> by Campus - Facilities - Rutgers Housing & Residence Life](<a href=“http://ruoncampus.rutgers.edu/facilities/browse-by-campus]Browse”>Our Campuses – Residence Life)</p>
<p>“I am currently in the quads and I only share a bathroom with I guess ten people, so wouldn’t suites be the same kind of thing?” </p>
<p>I think it is usually 6 people (3 doubles) per shared bathroom, but check the above link for specifics.</p>
<p>“I just want my own room. Is there anything I could do to make this possible? This lottery isn’t really a lottery anymore…”</p>
<p>Singles are scarce and will go by seniority. </p>
<p>SELECTION CRITERIA:
If your lottery number is eligible for a single room, the time to select will be based on the following priority:</p>
<p>1.Number of Earned Credits by Tuesday, February 12th at 11:59pm.
2.Lottery Number</p>
<p>See the rules here:
[Singles</a> Sign Up Process - Lottery Housing Options - The Lottery Process - Rutgers Housing & Residence Life](<a href=“http://ruoncampus.rutgers.edu/lottery/lottery-housing-options/singles-sign-up-process]Singles”>http://ruoncampus.rutgers.edu/lottery/lottery-housing-options/singles-sign-up-process)</p>
<p>“What is the equivalent for a group of sophomores in the twenties and a group of seniors with whatever number?” </p>
<p>This is impossible to estimate. Just realize that prioritized groups (with the highest numbers) will be able to choose first, regardless of lottery number.</p>
<p>“How do you all know that Livingston Apartments would be impossible for my group?”</p>
<p>Last year, the cutoff was ~350 out of 12,000 numbers.</p>
<p>“Aren’t there thousands of apartments?” </p>
<p>You can visit the housing website and determine total numbers. In Livi, there are approx. 1000 undergrad spaces (spaces, not apartments), but a certain percentage is reserved for special needs priority type housing.</p>
<p>“And don’t upperclassmen WANT to live off campus? Please explain.” </p>
<p>Upperclassmen like living on campus because you don’t have to worry about landlord/maintenance issues or getting your deposity back or commuting issues. </p>
<p>You are in a pretty good situation but if you are only counting on a single it will be rough. You may want to talk to someone in the housing dept. if you are having specific problems or issues that require a single unit.</p>
<p>khupat I am guessing ‘no’ only because Busch apartments go very quickly. Newell/Starkey gets chosen last every year. I would still try for it though because you never know.</p>
<p>The dilemma is that in our group two of us are eligible to sign back into the BEST suites. however then the other two people would have to find different roomates. The BEST sign back is before the apparment applications so once we sign into best we would not longer be eigible to try out for the apartments. So what would you suggest we do?</p>
<p>Correction to above post, last year Livi cutoff for the 4 person apartments was 390. I think a couple more numbers were eligible after the first selection so the number ended up a bit higher, I think around 460s.</p>
<p>Livingston 4 Bedroom Apartments:
General Statistics
Number of 4-Bedroom Apartment Applicants: 3,632
Number of Available Apartments: 224
Lowest Eligible Lottery Number: 1
Highest Eligible Lottery Number: 390</p>
<p>khupat that is a hard decision. Here are the cutoffs for last year, when everyone was eligible:</p>
<p>The lottery cutoff for the Busch Apartments was at 1431.</p>
<p>Number of students who applied: 2975
Number of Available Apartments: 280
Lowest Eligible Lottery Number: 233
Highest Eligible Lottery Number: 1431</p>
<p>There is no way to know if you will get an apartment or not. I wouldn’t guess 100% either way. All senior groups or groups with juniors and any amount of seniors will choose before you, regardless of lottery number. But groups with any sophomores will choose after you.</p>
<p>What does this mean? I don’t know. It depends on how many groups are ahead of you and how many of them want Busch apartments (which are very popular after livi).</p>
<p>You can try asking on Rutgers Resident Knights FB page but I guarantee you they will say ‘we don’t know’.</p>
<p>Since all my friends’ lottery numbers are 10,000+, and since I can’t commute, I am currently looking for a cardboard box to live in next year. A couple of decorations with colorful Sharpie markers certainly won’t hurt.</p>
<p>sixflags don’t give up. What year are you?</p>
<p>If you are a sophomore, you have priority for suites and doubles. So any junior or senior groups will choose suites and doubles -after- your group chooses, regardless of lottery number. </p>
<p>So a group of sophomores with 10k #s will choose before all of the senior and junior groups with any lower lottery numbers. All-sophomore groups will choose before any groups with higher years mixed in.</p>
<p>This is why it is going to be so unpredictable this year. Apply for everything you want and see what happens. At worst, you will get a double. Last year everyone with a lottery number got housing, and then people who didn’t have lottery numbers got off the waitlist. </p>
<p>I know the waiting is stressful. Good luck!</p>
<p>I’m a rising Junior, so doubles and suites are not possible for me to live in. And I don’t think I can get into an apartment with the lottery number I have…but thanks for the moral boost!</p>
<p>sixflags check Rutgers Resident Knights on FB and also Rutgers Roommate Gateway there are some juniors/mixed groups with decent numbers looking for apartments on there.</p>
<p>Last year my son had ~9k and he just kept looking on FB and Gateway and he joined a group with a great number.</p>
<p>You will see more posting as people get more desperate.</p>
<p>And just to be repetitive, apply for apartments anyway. Your junior group will be ahead of all sophomore and mixed junior groups, regardless of lottery number!</p>
<p>I was initially mad that they changed the lottery system to include seniority, but it honestly makes the system fairer. Last year, you needed to hope you got a number below 2k or knew someone with one to avoid living in the worst possible housing. Now, the different class years get priority for preferable housing. The current freshmen get first pick at suites, which are definitely an upgrade over regular dorms. The current juniors get first pick at apartments, whether on Livi, Busch, or Cook/Douglass. The current sophomores are the only ones who really have some uncertainty, getting second pick essentially at apartments, suites, and doubles. The new system cuts down on people trying to “sell” their lottery number as well, as it now not nearly as important. Give it two years and people will realize that the old lottery was insane.</p>
<p>Rhetorical I think it’s better, but it should be all seniority. I don’t think the reverse seniority stuff works, although I understand their intent. Housing wants to be ‘fair’, but this way, they are not being ‘fair’ to current sophomores. If it was all seniority, you would gradually move up the ladder and your choices would increase. Everyone would eventually get a chance to pick ‘first’.</p>
<p>In the current situation, current sophomores are second class in either case. I think it is going to cut down on numbers trading because it is going to be harder to predict results and whole rooms will have to swap instead of just one person unless you’ve got two groups of the same makeup (because your group total determines order of room picking).</p>
<p>@Rhetorical13: we were told on a tour that essentially everyone who wants housing, for all intents and purposes, can get it. (Certainly different from my day.) Would you describe that as accurate?</p>
<p>mtown- last year everyone who had a lottery number got housing. They also went to the waitlist and people were getting in from there. This year, like last year, they let people who had moved off campus apply for a lottery number, which was different from previous years. I am guessing this is because they knew they had an adequate supply of housing available.</p>
<p>Posted on the Rutgers housing website last year: </p>
<p>Posted on April 4: Still looking for housing for 2012-2013? Apply to the waiting list now at oncampus.rutgers.edu. Spaces are still available and room offers will begin soon!</p>
<p>(The waiting list was for people who did not apply for a lottery number)</p>