<p>The current plan is to have an EC suite, 2 guys and 1 girl in singles, 2 guys in the double. It's possible the girl will make other plans, so if that happens, I'm assuming it will be no problem with housing for one of the guys in the double to take the single when she leaves. </p>
<p>Can someone confirm this?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, one more thing- I have heard that in an EC suite housing will not put someone else in if a suitemate drops out. Does that mean that housing tries not to or that they actually will not as a matter of policy? </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>1) If the girl decides to "make other plans", she needs to do so AFTER picking the EC suite. If she drops from the group before you select your room in JJ Lounge, you'll be a group of 4, so unable to select a suite of 5, and your points will now include the freshmen in the average.</p>
<p>2) Assuming she picks the suite with you, if she decides to move out afterwards, the guy who wants to move should go in with her (to 125 wallach) and have a swap form ready.</p>
<p>3) They can and may in fact do backfill the half-filled double with someone else. In my experience (2002-2006), they are 95%+ likely to do this if the girl drops over the summer or before the school year starts, and 40-50% likely to do so if she drops as or after the school year starts.</p>
<p>4) There is no policy against filling a suite when a suitemate drops out. every year there is a housing crunch and rising sophomores end up on the sophomore waitlist, while they expect a small % of students to vacate their housing plans and then will backfill accordingly. Although they'll fill singles first, and honor any requests they can, a room in a suite building like EC will be higher on their list.</p>
<p>5) "They" in the previous items refers to Mark Chatoor, manager of housing assignments in 125 wallach. He's a great guy, will tend to make accommodations, and really is eager to help students. He can sniff out when you're trying to play games with the system though, so if you want to talk to him to make arrangements, be straight with him.</p>
<p>Hope that helps,
D</p>
<p>Thanks, D. Just fyi, last semester was Mark's last at Columbia. Apparently he left rather suddenly.</p>
<p>Oh. Wow. It had been a long time coming. I'm sure he's doing well.</p>
<p>Joyce Jackson is an equally dedicated student service person, although I think at her level she's not in the trenches as much as Mark was.</p>
<p>It should be indicative of how much work this all was, that Mark was replaced with two people.</p>
<p>Are you all rising juniors or 3 rising juniors and 2 rising sophomores?</p>
<p>If you are all rising juniors I feel that the two guys planning on living in that tiny double are getting pretty shafted. Also an EC exclusion suite without any seniors has recently been pretty risky</p>
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Also an EC exclusion suite without any seniors has recently been pretty risky
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this is true. In the selection for this current school year, I think only two ECX groups with 20 points got the suite. Might've been zero, the cutoff might've been for the 23.3 pt set.</p>
<p>I was just assuming the people in question had at least one senior.</p>
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this is true. In the selection for this current school year, I think only two ECX groups with 20 points got the suite. Might've been zero, the cutoff might've been for the 23.3 pt set.
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<p>um....no. they had so many leftover ECX suites this past year groups of all sophmores happened.</p>
<p>the spectator got the housing guide REALLY off when they put it out. there was such a rush on ruggles it left EC and Watt pretty open</p>
<p>no...Denz is absolutely right, the cutoff for ECX in 07-08 was 20/303 which means only a few groups with 3 juniors got a suite. All sophomores getting an ECX has been unheard of for at least 5 or 6 yrs.</p>
<p>here are the cutoffs:
Housing</a> : Cutoff History</p>
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Two years ago, 85 groups registered, and only groups with rising juniors in all three singles claimed suites. This year, on the other hand, only 36 exclusion groups registered, meaning that hypothetically even a group of all rising sophomores would get a suite, although no group registered this year with fewer than three juniors and seniors. As a result, exclusion suites-some of the most coveted housing on campus over the last few years-will likely be available during general selection.
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<p>Students</a> Will Neglect EC Exclusion Suites | Columbia Spectator</p>
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<p>...except that that ignores that there were 53 non-ECX groups of 5. And that even once Hogan 5s and EC High-Rise all-singles 5s were gone, a bunch of those would opt for ECX. Trust me, if ECX ever makes it to general selection, I will publicly eat my hat while standing on the sundial.</p>
<p>That said, they're using this new "starcom" system this year, and I have absolutely no knowledge of it. I imagine the selection rules are the same, though, so we'll see what shakes out. But I'd be VERY interested in a description of the system (or perhaps even an offer of a login) from current students.</p>
<p>your dedication to housing has now crossed into psychotic :P</p>
<p>and yea, I can't imagine that seniors wouldn't at least snap them up in regroup....suites are highly coveted property.</p>
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your dedication to housing has now crossed into psychotic :P
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dude if you spent 3 1/2 years writing, fixing, running and using various systems for an employer, and those systems affected your friends' lives directly, you'd probably be interested in how they're doing after you leave.</p>
<p>Just saying. It's like checking in with an old friend. I'm not saying I want my old job back, just that I'm curious how things are shaking out.</p>
<p>I have read some great info on housing at Columbia, very interesting (and seems a bit complicated). Just curious -- my son will be applying ED next fall to Columbia. When do the kids make the housing decisions? </p>
<p>Also -- any suggestions on what type of housing to pick (I know, my son should be posting, but he doesn't "do" CC)? </p>
<p>Son rarely drinks/smokes (drinking is legal in the country he attends school in) -- no drugs at all, so not a party kid. He will be older (depending on whether he takes a gap year, he will be 20 or 21) and has been living overseas at boarding school. very well traveled, prefers smaller groups of kids to hang out with. Seems to me that he would have issues fitting in with a typical freshman group of kids -- so I was just wondering what options there were.</p>
<p>^ You and Your son will have ample time to decide on housing once he actually gets in, that's both a long time away (esp after a gap year) and statistically improbable. But he'd be fine anywhere, Carman is considered the typical freshman party dorm which he can stay from, if that's not his scene. Furnald and JJ are good, the Living and Learning Center (Hartley or Wallach) is really worth considering if he is how you say he is. But really, if you start looking into what housing he should choose before he's even gotten in, you're setting yourselves up for disappointment.</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying -- believe me, he knows the odds of getting in. I was just bored and trying to avoid doing the laundry, so I was reading random posts and figured I would ask. Thanks for the info! You are correct -- it is a long time away!</p>
<p>hsmomstef - as great a parent as I'm sure you are, it is quite impossible to predict how your son will behave 6 months, 1 year or 2 years out as he lives on his own. I wouldn't let any perceived trends in substances affect you in any way - there's just no predicting.</p>
<p>As for housing options, this thread is a bunch of really good info:</p>
<p>Best,
D</p>
<p>Thanks for the link! of course I can predict how he will behave in the future -- that is the beauty of him attending school away from home! Right now he goes to school in Wales and I am sure he is clean shaven, with his hair cut nice and short the way I like it, always studying and never overindulging -- and I will just keep that picture in my head! </p>
<p>Only kidding -- I get what you are saying, but I have a pretty good idea that he isn't a party kid (a drink or two on occasion, sure) -- his current school has a pub on campus and has quite a few party animals, so college won't be his first exposure to the party scene. Things could change, though -- who knows. He may find a girlfriend who is into partying and just go along for the ride.</p>
<p>"he goes to school in Wales" "his current school has a pub on campus"</p>
<p>UWC of the Atlantic? if so, he could certainly change a great deal, several people change considerably close to graduation; after a gap year, you might not recognize him anymore :p.</p>
<p>Yes -- he goes to Atlantic College. I suspect he will change, he already has changed quite a bit. Certainly an interesting experience!</p>