<p>He got an 800 on the Math portion of SAT reasoning, not on the subject test. 740 on both level 1 and 2, right?</p>
<p>I mentioned Cornell Engineering’s math scores because CAS is not typically the school math-related majors go to - and you want to major in a math related field.
Although, my estimate stands up to both CAS and Engineering.</p>
<p>Oh, you’re right, bioblade. My bad.</p>
<p>But that 800 on his math reasoning should translate to higher Math 1 and 2 scores if it’s so difficult to achieve.</p>
<p>Either way, SATs don’t make up for grades.</p>
<p>I agree it doesn’t. Anyways I am tired of arguing. Bio do u go to Sty? cause 800 students is something sty would do</p>
<p>Yes, I do go to Stuy.</p>
<p>bump… please honest chance. and no more arguing on how many people get 800 on math in stuy (even though we know its not 100)</p>
<p>well… I do believe its pretty much a chance, I don’t mean to the MIT, or Columbia, or UPenn, but for the others, including your ED status for Cornell.
Your SAT scores are in the range. However, the problem is, you’d have a better possibility if you had more honor awards in your profile, especially in Math, or you concentrated more on some special qualities you have as a Urkine immigrant.</p>
<p>I won 2 math Olympiads in freshman year and i did talk about the special qualities of being a Ukrainian immigrant in my essay</p>
<p>Kryptos, we’re not adcoms. You’re talking to high schoolers. Like aMak said, your chances will be determined on dec 10</p>
<p>I think you have a stellar statistics for Cornell especially if you apply ED. You should have a very decent chance if you prepare your application packet well.</p>
<p>Dont believe the people who way overrate Cornells competitiveness. The kids who got into Cornell (CAS) from my local high school in the past few years did not have the claimed stellar SAT grades.</p>
<p>You should be at least competitive for Cornell ED, but is your UW GPA out of 4? And Columbia/Penn/MIT are all reaches. Your immigrant status is probably a hook although I’m pretty sure most don’t consider European an URM, your test scores are all in the lower range of the middle 50% or right below the middle 50 for some of your schools.</p>
<p>Jersey13 is right, being an Eastern European immigrant is not a hook (I wish it was one - would help me out, too :P), but it could have a minor effect if it’s in your counselor rec explaining your difficulties. I don’t think putting it in your essay will have any negative or positive effects - it’ll be like any other hardship essay.</p>
<p>Well I didnt use that as my hook I used my family’s engineering background as one</p>
<p>@ OP: Hey, at least you’re not competing against the international need-based pool. </p>
<p>I just found out today (yes, I am that stupid and it did take me 3+ weeks to find out AFTER I applied) that Canadians counted towards the international pool and the fact that I asked for a lot of aid doesn’t help. You see, the website was pretty unclear at the time when I applied and there were contradicting messages back then (like the whole news about the merging of funds but then on the other page it says that Canadians are considered like the americans), so I find it pretty annoying how they updated the website so late. </p>
<p>So I’m still totally lost right now whether needy Canadians are evaluated together with all the other needy internationals, whether admissions is still need-blind, and if so how stingy really is Cornell to international people. I guess I would need to wait to find out because worrying doesn’t help. </p>
<p>Does anyone know whether they look at how much aid you need or just whether you need aid or not? lol I hope that they made the decisions after they downloaded the CSS profiles =P</p>
<p>Admissions isn’t ‘still need blind’ for intl’s. It never was.
They merged the funds for Canadians and Mexicans (~5 million) with the funds for other intl’s (about 2 million), so you guys split a 7 million fund now. Bad for Canadians and Mexicans, good for other intl’s. Yeah, they do look at how much you need (otherwise they might go overboard on FA and not know it).</p>
<p>Yeah… well, what I’m so annoyed at is why they announced the whole thing so late. When I checked the website in September, and even October, Canadians were still listed in the “need-blind” category. </p>
<p>So if they look at your financial stuff during admissions, then I guess they don’t look at internationals until after the 25th. </p>
<p>And does this mean that if they take you, you still get full-need met? lol</p>
<p>@Jersey Being from eastern Europe may not be a hook, but if you read carefully I came here when I was seven, so if that’s not a hook, i dont know what is.</p>
<p>and “your test scores are all in the lower range of the middle 50% or right below the middle 50 for some of your schools.” Buddy and 800 in math is not in the middle 50 for Cornell or any of my schools except MIT. My reading and writing however match Cornell</p>
<p>@Kryptos:</p>
<ol>
<li>No, you clearly don’t know what a hook is.</li>
<li>The 75th percentile at Cornell is a 790, this means that 25% of students get an 800. At MIT their 75th percentile is an 800, meaning slightly more than 25% of students get an 800.</li>
</ol>
<p>I understand you have big fish little pond syndrome, but still. We are trying to be helpful and tell you what IS the truth, and you get defensive and then offensive.</p>
<p>670 - 770 95% Math College board</p>
<p>Admissions Data (2008):</p>
<pre><code>* Percent of Applicants Admitted: 21%
<p>L2 Research
Second of all I know what a hook is. A hook is something that makes you stand out from the crowd. My immigrant experience is something that makes me stand out. Thirdly I am also including building computers during the summer as another hook, because I doubt every applicant to Cornell is building just under 20 computers as a small business every summer…
I understand you are trying to be helpful, I just dont like when people post things when they dont know anything</p>
<p>[Cornell</a> Engineering : Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.engineering.cornell.edu/prospective/undergraduate/about-engineering/facts/class-profile.cfm]Cornell”>http://www.engineering.cornell.edu/prospective/undergraduate/about-engineering/facts/class-profile.cfm)</p>
<p>Sorry bud, but it seems as if this year, the mid-50% goes up to 800 in Math as well.</p>
<p>And a hook is something that not only a) makes you stand out from the crowd, but b) is something that the school is looking for. It is a “hook” because it pretty much guarantees your acceptance. A nationally recognized competition winner (Intel, USAMO, USAPHO, Siemens, nationally publicized writer) is a hook. A high-achieving URM is a hook. A recruited athlete is a hook. Large financial donations are a hook.</p>
<p>Yes, the immigrant experience is tragic. Yes it makes an interesting topic to talk about in an essay. Yes it’s something not everyone does.
Does that make it a hook? No. Sorry but that’s the truth.
Is there a nationally reported statistic on how many immigrants go to the school? No. Can college brag about how many immigrant students they have in their factbook?
If you are caucasian, you can’t contribute to the URM pool. Since you are a US citizen, you also can’t contribute to the international pool.</p>
<p>I don’t know why you think me, a current student, knows less about Cornell students and Cornell admissions than you, a high school senior?</p>
<p>Building computers a hook? What?</p>
<p>I build computers for cash all year round, but I thought it so trivial a thing that I didn’t even include it in my application - there are far, far more important things to include.</p>