How conservative?

<p>I've heard that Goergetown, partially due to its large Catholic demographic, is also largely conservative in its political leanings. Is this true? Just curious. =)</p>

<p>NOOOOOOOOO WAY! Georgetown is largely liberal, like every other university.</p>

<p>I don’t think it’s largely liberal. There’s probably a pretty fair balance, and it’s definitely more conservative than smaller LACs.</p>

<p>The largest club on campus is the College Democrats.</p>

<p>Its more conservative than other major universities, but still leans liberal overall.</p>

<p>Also, if you’re a gov/ipolitics major, you will learn how to hate communists/terrorists and are likely to become a foreign policy hard liner</p>

<p>Haha. Thanks so much for putting all of that into perspective for me. I was surprised when I initially heard it, and I just had to find out if it was true. =)</p>

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<p>…Correct me if I’m wrong but is it not a good thing to hate terrorists? They are terrorists, after all. ;)</p>

<p>^Hate is never a good thing. It only breeds more problems.</p>

<p>Now, committed to annihilating, on the other hand, is an acceptable modus operandi. :cool:</p>

<p>* Its more conservative than other major universities, but still leans liberal overall. *
I would not say this at all. Georgetown students and faculty are both very left of center (overall) and are not more conservative than those at other universities. As a matter of fact, Georgetown SFS is known as the most liberal such program.</p>

<p>Just look at high-profile faculty and incidents. When Georgetown hired Douglas Feith (Bush’s Undersecretary of Defense for Policy known as a major neoconservative) the students, faculty and alumni revolted and forced Gallucci to can him. In contrast, Feith fit in comfortably at Stanford, where he was a fellow at the right-leaning Hoover Institute. Compare that to the fact that Paul Wolfowitz was the Dean at SAIS at Hopkins. Bob Gallucci, Dean of SFS until recently, on the other hand is a democrat, and the most-high profile faculty, like Madeleine Albright, are all also democrats. In terms of faculty, Georgetown is to the left of SAIS, Harvard Kennedy, and GWU Elliot.</p>

<p>* Also, if you’re a gov/ipolitics major, you will learn how to hate communists/terrorists and are likely to become a foreign policy hard liner *</p>

<p>Not sure where this is coming from. Again, look at the reaction to the faculty appointment of a hardliner - Feith (personally, I was disappointed by the strength of the negative reaction to him). Many faculty and students are doves on foreign policy issues. Again, SAIS is and always has been the hardliner school.</p>

<p>Stereotype much anyone?</p>

<p>"Its more conservative than other major universities, but still leans liberal overall.
I would not say this at all. Georgetown students and faculty are both very left of center (overall) and are not more conservative than those at other universities. As a matter of fact, Georgetown SFS is known as the most liberal such program.</p>

<p>Just look at high-profile faculty and incidents. When Georgetown hired Douglas Feith (Bush’s Undersecretary of Defense for Policy known as a major neoconservative) the students, faculty and alumni revolted and forced Gallucci to can him. In contrast, Feith fit in comfortably at Stanford, where he was a fellow at the right-leaning Hoover Institute. Compare that to the fact that Paul Wolfowitz was the Dean at SAIS at Hopkins. Bob Gallucci, Dean of SFS until recently, on the other hand is a democrat, and the most-high profile faculty, like Madeleine Albright, are all also democrats. In terms of faculty, Georgetown is to the left of SAIS, Harvard Kennedy, and GWU Elliot.</p>

<p>Also, if you’re a gov/ipolitics major, you will learn how to hate communists/terrorists and are likely to become a foreign policy hard liner</p>

<p>Not sure where this is coming from. Again, look at the reaction to the faculty appointment of a hardliner - Feith (personally, I was disappointed by the strength of the negative reaction to him). Many faculty and students are doves on foreign policy issues. Again, SAIS is and always has been the hardliner school."</p>

<p>I forgot why I stopped coming to these discussion boards… Anyway, I go to Georgetown so take it for what its worth. I suggest you take Albright’s class when you come here so you can learn stuff like her “10 reasons why multilateralism sucks”, i dont know where you get your faculty info from but clearly you havent been in a class. Think whatever you want to think, but dont even bother to reply to this cause i wont answer back</p>

<p>To clarify:</p>

<p>Douglas Feith was not fired, his two-year contract expired and was not renewed. Without passing judgment myself, I will also add that disdain for Mr. Feith is not limited to those on the political left (e.g. General Tommy Franks’ description of Feith as “the dumbest fu***** guy on the planet” in his autobiography).</p>

<p>The SFS faculty includes plenty of practitioners from both Democratic (Alrbight, Clinton NSC Tony Lake, Carter-era Ambassador to the UN Donald McHenry) and Republican (Bush’s Asia NSC man Victor Cha, Bush USAID administrator Andrew Natsios, former Senator Chuck Hagel) sides of the aisle. </p>

<p>The university also recently launched an initiative on cybersecurity involving Michael Hayden - no liberal he - [Georgetown</a> University: Former Security Head Joins Cybersecurity Team](<a href=“http://explore.georgetown.edu/documents/?DocumentID=48778]Georgetown”>http://explore.georgetown.edu/documents/?DocumentID=48778)</p>

<p>I think it is fair to say that the university strives to maintain a diversity of views and by no means limits itself to one side of the spectrum.</p>

<p>…its definitely liberal</p>

<p>bill clinton for pete’s sake :D</p>

<p>* “Douglas Feith was not fired, his two-year contract expired and was not renewed. Without passing judgment myself, I will also add that disdain for Mr. Feith is not limited to those on the political left (e.g. General Tommy Franks’ description of Feith as “the dumbest fu***** guy on the planet” in his autobiography).” *</p>

<p>To clarify further, such renewals are generally just formalities. There were clear political overtones to the decision not to renew the contract, and they were clearly related to the petition signed against his hiring in the first place by more than a dozen faculty and the fact that other faculty refused to have offices in the same building as him. I didn’t actually have Feith, but I hear that he was actually a very good teacher, and no one can deny that he knew more about US Defense Policy than just about anyone.</p>

<p>* I think it is fair to say that the university strives to maintain a diversity of views and by no means limits itself to one side of the spectrum. *
Very true.</p>

<p>* … Anyway, I go to Georgetown so take it for what its worth. I suggest you take Albright’s class when you come here so you can learn stuff like her “10 reasons why multilateralism sucks” *
I go to Georgetown too pal and I suggest you take Ambassador McHenry’s class on multilateral diplomacy for the counterpoint. There are a lot of internationalists on the GU faculty.</p>

<p>I’m not really sure what it is you’re trying to say here. That Georgetown is made up of ideological hardliners far to the right of those at other universities? If you actually no anything about the relevant scholars, please compare SFS to SAIS. SAIS is the school of Elliot Cohen who has been called “as extremist a neoconservative and warmonger as it gets”. It’s also the school of Frances <em>**uyama, the father of neoconservative, and Paul Wolfowitz was the Dean for Christ’s sake. You’re telling me that Madeleine Albright is to the right of Cohen, Wolfowitz, and *</em>*uyama? If you honestly think that then either you’ve never say in an IR class or you flunked out.</p>