<p>I know long, but i really need some advice in this very dark situation.</p>
<p>At this point I only have 2 days(Oct 9) before UCSB would be on my permanent record(drop out), meaning that I have to make a decision quickly. My interest at this point lies in learning the details on running a business with skills ranging from marketing, management, finance, supply chain management, and other practical skills. Although I feel I have made a grave mistake in coming to UCSB (as they only offer economics)when the true side of economics was shown: its heavily theoretical nature, its non-practical application to business(although my image of economics may be skewed) and UCSB's lack of business management courses, which if offered, I could use to supplement my econ degree.</p>
<p>Unfortunetley I would not be able to apply to another 4 year as a freshman due to my over achieving nature which led me to take a community college class during the summer following high school graduation.This has disqualified me as a freshman, and has proved to be a nightmare. If I transfer after one quarter at UCSB I would not be put in the same applicant pool as those who have completed 100% of their units at a CC meaning that I would be held to higher standards. It is also important to mention that I have completed 12 units(9 prior to graduation) with a 2.5 gpa witch would be hard to pull up. If my math stands correct I would only be able to pull around a 3.5 gpa with near perfect grades.</p>
<p>If decide to stay here until the completion of my lower division classes I would not be able to transfer because I would not be able to complete the required pre-transfer classes needed for business as they are not offered here. Maybe Economics would be my cup of tea but it seems if I go through with UCSB i would be closing doors on a bachelors in business in the future which i hold more interest in at this point. Although I do feel regretful and somewhat stupid for choosing a school that does not offer my main interest I realize that I cannot go back and want to get out of this tough situation in the best way possible.</p>
<p>What gave you the impression that you could no longer apply to schools as a freshman? While this is true for some colleges, for many it is not the case. A large amount of schools only require you to apply as a transfer if you have completed a certain number of credits (usually in the 8 to 12 range) following your HS graduation. Though now that I think of it, I believe enrolling full time at any post-secondary institution might rule you out automatically at many of these colleges, so I’m not entirely sure what your particular situation might involve.</p>
<p>Your best bet for finding out would be to email or call an admission counselor for each prospective school.</p>
You should check if this is really true. At many colleges, CC classes taken the summer immediately following HS graduation do not make you ineligible for freshman admission.</p>
<p>However even if you’re not correct about the CC class, while you check with prospective schools you need to make sure that your withdrawal (or whatever it is) from UCSB does not make you ineligible. Colleges are going to require you to list every school you have attended, and they can easily find out you were enrolled in classes at UCSB.</p>
<p>If you don’t qualify for frosh admission anymore, then the CC route might be best for you. 2 years at a CC to fulfill the lower division requirements and get priority in admission to a 4-year (if you’re applying to a CA state school)</p>
<p>The courses that OP is interested (marketing, management, finance, supply chain management, and other practical skills) are most likely only offered under a traditional business program.</p>
<p>In most of the UC/CSU campus, business program are impacted that it’s difficult to enroll those upper course if you’re not a declared major/minor</p>
<p>Are you likely to eventually get an MBA? Supplementing an Econ and liberal arts background with an MBA would not only provide the course content you seek but make you more employable.</p>
<p>At this point I don’t feel like i want an MBA, more money more school. If I am able to learn things that would allow me to run a small business with a bachelors degree.</p>
<p>Here’s another option: stay at UCSB, get your degree in economics, take all of the more business-oriented courses that you can within your major, and read these websites:</p>
<p>If you decide to stay at UCSB, try to switch to Econ+Acct major, (I believe this is the 1st year UCSB offer it), so you can take the more business-oriented courses like accounting. If you choose to transfer later on, most of business program will require, at least but not limited to, the two intro Accounting, Micro/Macro Econ, Calculus, Statistics plus other GE, to do junior transfer.</p>
<p>I am leaning towards dropping out of UCSB going to a CC and then transfering to SJSU or SDSU or anywhere else I want to. I spoke to a CSU rep and the CC GPA situation would be resolved if I took the same exact classes at the same CC then it could change my gpa.</p>
<p>You dont need a degree to run a business. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs BOTH dropped out of college. What you need is drive, determination, resolve, patience, planning, a superb product or service which is a nitch…a new mousetrap, and capital. </p>
<p>Most business majors in college DONT start businesses. They go to work for someone else. </p>
<p>Community Colleges do teach entrepreneurial skills and requirements. </p>
<p>But dropping out of UCSB is a mistake, in my view. College is theoretical. Its NOT a technical school. Its designed to help you think outside the box and critical reasoning. Its a lifetime investment, not a temporary business plan.</p>
<p>Think hard before you transfer or quit. Its a poor environment to start a business now anyway. Its better to stick it out four years and see if things improve.</p>
<p>Bill Gates and Steve Jobs have engineering/science background. They had products and grew into business from there. It’s irrelevant to OP’s case. Apparently, he/she is going to cut into the business field from a non technology field, then he/she does need some practical business skill to have an edge.</p>
<p>If OP has determined that the curriculum in UCSB doesn’t suit his needs/interest and have found the path, either direct transfer or CC/transfer, to a business program that he can learn what he wants to learn, I don’t see the point to stick at UCSB.</p>
<p>It is very true that you do not need a college education to succeed in business world. You only need some basic skills that a CC will cover. However, having your own successful business is not easy, there are many more losers than winners. Forget about the superstars like Jobs or Gates, those are the true lottery winners. Just to survive in a business is a big accomplishment and most of the ppl without education are just not surviving. A college education is just to increase your ability to survive, that is why ppl go to college.</p>
<p>I am not sure if you are thinking of dropping out UCSB is because you cannot handle the work or you voluntarily want to drop out because you see the grass is greener in CSU. If it is the former, you will have problems to handle work when you start your own business. If it is the latter, I can tell you CSU will not be better than UCSB, you will learn some skills that are not available in UCSB but they are not better or worse, they are just different. If you think it is important to learn those skills as you described, go ahead to make the transition. But do not use that as execuses for not attending UCSB.</p>
<p>BTW, one of my jobs is a broker for businesses, I have handled many businesses transactions large and small than most of the people in the general public, I know.</p>
<p>I would transfer b/c CSU’s seem to be better than UC’s in business. Additionally it is easier to transfer to other schools from CC. UCSB doesnt seem to be in a good location for internships (SJSU has a great location) and the alum network seems to be lacking. If I go to CC i would have a chance at going to a school that would have more applicable coursework and a better network. Although I would be missing the college experience. Is my argument correct?</p>
<p>I do not know your arguement is correct or not because I have not been to either schools before. However, if you do well in either school, you will be fine. Success stories can be found in either school’s history. If you are a slacker with no motivation, thinking of grass is greener next door all the time, you will be just that.</p>
<p>From what i’ve gathered economics is not very applicable whereas Biz Admin can but used right away in a business. The only thing holding me back here is the fact that I would miss out on the college experience. This is such a difficult situation.</p>
<p>College is there to teach students critical thinking. The skills learned in colleges are not necessary related to the work post graduation. Live is a learning experience, you learn all the time, you learn how to handle people, you learn how to resolve a problem on job. No college will be able to teach you how to handle your job, you learn when you get there. That is why ppl want to go to a good college where you learn a better skill to analyze problems, resolve problems in theory, practical stuff you will learn when you entered the society. There is only 4 years of college, but there are 40 years ahead of you post graduation. Do you think that 4 years of teaching can solve all the problems in the ensuing 40 years?</p>