<p>rtimer12 your parents know you better than any well-meaning stranger on CC. What do they say?</p>
<p>For #20, If OP refers to only interested in the management discipline within business program, I agree. However, he is also interested in finance and supply chain, the areas are practical and technical that deserve college level courses</p>
<p>^And I agree with vballmom. My opinion is only based on the limited info that OP provides.</p>
<p>My dad recommends I transfer, follow business in a logical way. My mom is more worried about me loosing the college experience.</p>
<p>I think your best bet is to contact the schools you are interested in and meet with an admissions counselor. Each might have its own standards. I know my daughter took a CC course her senior year of high school and was able to apply as a freshman and transfer the course, but your situation is a bit more complicated.</p>
<p>Does your mom’s concern resonate? How do you feel about “the college experience”? UCSB has a reputation for being very social. SJSU is an urban campus, very different from SB. Many students live off campus, it’s difficult to get all the classes you need, and might require graduating in 5 years rather than 4. Its Engineering School is very well regarded in this area; I don’t know about its Business School.</p>
<p>Did you take a look at the links I posted? Granted they focus on graduate business, but I think they’re relevant to undergraduate business degrees as well. Critical thinking, good writing skills, and excellent analytical abilities are all very important for entrepreneurs, and these can be obtained in a number of ways, not only via a traditional business course of study.</p>
<p>Of course, if the economics curriculum at UCSB is mostly theoretical and it bores you out of your mind, then you need to make a change regardless of whether you stay there or transfer somewhere else.</p>
<p>rtimer:</p>
<p>First of all, relax. Breathe. Take a bubble bath (just kidding.) Go for a long run. </p>
<p>Look at the logic here:</p>
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<li><p>UCSB is a respected UC school. The college experience, presuming you are not partying and wasting time and money, is a healthy growth experience. There are many courses you can take…and this is one time in your life when you have the license to do so. Don’t miss out. Whether its a philosophy class or theology class or literature class or language class or whatever suits your fancy. Life is more than a technical skill or narrow career path. Once you begin working, the opportunity is likely gone. </p></li>
<li><p>Don’t poo poo Economics so fast. Don’t poo poo theory so fast. </p></li>
<li><p>Unless you are miserable at UCSB on OTHER grounds, I would be very reluctant to leave that school, particularly for a lesser school or CC. You can always take CC classes in the summer, even if you don’t apply them to your degree requirements, you still have the knowledge and skills learned there.</p></li>
<li><p>Your dad is likely thinking about getting a job and being useful and making money. Fine. All true. But don’t discount your mother’s intuition either. </p></li>
<li><p>Give yourself permission to just be a college kid and have fun for 4 years. You aren’t missing much…no hurry to start/open a business. </p></li>
<li><p>True, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are superstars and had some luck, timing and family money behind them…and a clear idea of what they wanted to do when they did it. But its also true you don’t need a college degree to start and successfully operate a business. The value of a college degree, particularly a broad based degree, is in critical thinking, transformational experience while you were there growing up. You have no idea what lies ahead for you in the coming years at UCSB. You may meet your soul mate. You may change your perspective and objectives. Dont be so hasty to jump ship. </p></li>
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<p>Just relax, calm down and chill out. Every successful person in life has failures and mistakes on their resume. Most of those are wonderful learning experiences…though its hard to recognize at the time it is happening. </p>
<p>You are very young…with ideas bouncing around your head…which is all normal. The working world of business is a tough world indeed…so take these valuable years at UCSB and just let it all soak in without obsessing about whether its critical technical skills in finance or business. Besides, the best entrepreneurs hire professionals like lawyers and accountants to do most of that nitty gritty stuff anyway. They focus on the product, marketing and selling. </p>
<p>You will get through this. Breathe.</p>
<p>Nice post, ghostbuster :)</p>
<p>Short answer - stay at UCSB. Best to challenge your brain as much as possible. UCSB has a good reputation in accounting. Take a lot of courses in that area and they will help you a lot in understanding a business. I took all the accounting courses offered at De Anza and I can tell you that it took nearly all of them for me to understand a financial statement in real depth. This is a vital skill to have in business. UCSB has a bunch of courses that are relevant to business such as managerial accounting, accounting information systems, law and ethics, personnel economics, and negotiations plus they have the regular accounting sequence - beg, intermediate, advanced. A business degree will also require micro and macro econ and statistics.</p>
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<p>I thought the OP is interested in his own business, what will he need from finance and supply chain classes? What business can a person with HS diploma do as business? I can think of a few, such as: oil change, ice cream, prezels, hamberger stand, clothing store and so on… I can’t imagine some one out of HS can spend $2M in a seat on the New York Stock Exchange and work in the IPO or high finance arena! As there is no need of high finance in small business. The college level business courses are more theoratical for some one to run the General Motor type.</p>
<p>Actually socializing is very important in a business world, people handling is an art and without it business will not florish and you will fail badly in company politics. To that end, I will give it to UCSB. If OP is interested in Accounting, there is more reason to stay in UCSB, becasue Accounting is a business by itself, once the CPA license is granted.</p>
<p>A few more hours to decide.</p>
<p>artloeversplus, from post #1
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<p>I know accounting is the language of business. But OP didn’t mention it, so doesn’t sound he would take the CPA route. And I don’'t remember he said he is going to running a business now while attending college. It could be after a undergrad degree or even later in his career.</p>
<p>As far as I could tell now from his last few post, OP is torn between a college experience and a traditional business program. That’s really depending on personal preference/priority in my opinion.</p>
<p>I want to learn skills that would allow me to be independent of people telling me I need to work myself to death. I want to be able to make decisions as I see fit and I want to learn the skills needed to make such decisions. So Economics or a business degree, that ultimately what it comes down to.</p>
<p>any final opinions before i make my decision?</p>
<p>IMHO, I think you are into the grass is greener syndrome, it does not make any sense to abandon a perfectly higher ranking University and down grade to a cc in hope to transfer to a lessor school, unless you have a problem to catch up in your current acadamics.</p>
<p>How do you know you will be happy in the cc or any other schools?</p>
<p>BEST LUCK…</p>
<p>I have made my decision!
Things have seemed to work out okay. I found out that even the fact that I enrolled at UCSB, no matter whether there was no transcript record, I would still would not be considered as a 100% community college student. I then found that if I stay at UCSB for one quarter I am welcome to return if I please. With these two pieces of information I plan to stay here for the quarter, transfer to a community college where I would knock out the GE’s for both CSU’s and UC’s (most overlap). Once I had completed pre major requirements for the CSU system I will apply for them and if I get in then all the better. Students who complete 50% of the credits at a community college get priority over 4 year transfers so I would be in the second applicant pool. If I dont get accepted I have been able to save a lot of money by completing the rest of my GE’s and then returning to UCSB for the upper division classes. Thanks a lot for everyones assistance through this confusing time.</p>
<p>To me it looks like you have to apply for readmission if you leave to go somewhere else:</p>
<p>[Readmission/Reinstatement</a>, Office of the Registrar](<a href=“http://www.registrar.ucsb.edu/read_rein.htm]Readmission/Reinstatement”>404 - Page Not Found)</p>
<p>They say that it’s generally approved but you do have to go through the process. You can’t just leave and pop back up later.</p>
<p>I still don’t think this plan makes sense. I don’t think it’s a good idea to transfer schools for a business major - if you had decided you wanted to be an engineer or a nurse and your school didn’t have those, then that’s one thing, but you can run a business with any major and honestly one of the biggest selling points of a business is offering a service that people want. You say you want to run a business - but what are you selling or marketing?</p>
<p>UCSB also just started a BS in actuarial science and already had BS degrees in economics and accounting and in financial math and statistics.</p>
<p>The “application” is always approved as long as you are in good academic standing. You only pay $60 by the respective deadline (about a month before the quarter starts). I believe the CC idea is great, im able to keep many doors open and I can take many of the lower division marketing management, and other courses not thought at UCSB. I can always take these units to UCSB(saving tons of money) or possibly transfer to another school.</p>
<p>Anyone else want to comment on my plan?</p>
<p>no one? come on!</p>
<p>helllooooooo.</p>