<p>Specifically LSA. I know most of the people here are prospective students, but for those of you doing the work now, is it really overwhelming? How much time do you spend per night?</p>
<p>It really depends on the type of classes you’re in. Science and math classes tend to be the most time consuming, and humanities courses are generally less demanding. That being said, none of the people I know in LSA study more than 3 hours a night and are still easily managing A’s and B’s. Engineering is a different story all together.</p>
<p>I’m in Engineering, and it’s not that bad either. You have to do your work and study and try, but it’s not overwhelming. </p>
<p>For some perspective, GPA-wise I think I’m looking at ~3.4 (maybe a little higher) I came in below/about 25th percentile test scores, so I’m also not a genius among students.</p>
<p>That doesn’t sound too bad. If I go there, I’m going to try for a dual degree with LSA (Math)/Music. Anyone else have input? How are the “bookwork” music courses?</p>
<p>Getting in the B range in LSA can be done without painstaking effort.
Getting straight As when taking science classes is very tough.</p>
<p>Are most classes curved or is it just based solely on your own grades?</p>
<p>@QK: which engineering are you in, because the difficulties within Eng. differ I hear?</p>
<p>I’m a freshman, so undeclared major… I’m taking the intro Math, Science, and Engr101 classes for people in Engineering.</p>
<p>based on my experience.</p>
<p>is engineering at U of M really difficult? What I mean is, is the transition from high school work to engineering coursework difficult? I know freshman year of college is probably going to be a bit easier than later years but classes like physics or chemistry…do professors throw curveballs at you and put wierd questions on the test, etc.</p>
<p>I can say Math is difficult here.</p>
<p>i don’t think what your sat score was, matters in how well you do, some of the best gpa kids in ME my year had pretty low SAT scores (one dude had a 3.8 in ME, he got a 1280 on his SAT), while some of my close friends did very well on those tests, but barely cracked 3.0. they worked relatively hard too.</p>
<p>“one dude had a 3.8 in ME, he got a 1280 on his SAT”</p>
<p>Was English this guy’s second language?</p>
<p>I can tell you there are “curveballs” and tricky questions on Engr101 tests.</p>
<p>Anyone taking Math 295?</p>
<p>Yes, I’m taking 295 (and will be taking 296, for that matter). Any questions?</p>
<p>First, what was your experience before you came in, and what’s the average experience of the class before hand? Second, was it difficult to adjust to proofs and stuff? Anything else unexpected?</p>
<p>From the Engineering side…</p>
<p>I can tell you classes get harder after freshman year because you’re no longer competing with LSA, etc. kids after your first year. You are competing with the smartest kids at this school. Engineering is graded on a curve, so you may do well in your first year courses because you’re smart compared to the average kid, but once you get to your upper level courses, you may rank bottom 3rd.</p>
<p>Overall, the school isn’t that hard. I’m engineering and ended up with a 3.9 after last semester, but decided to rush a frat this year and my grades slipped to about a 3.2 this semester. How you did in high school doesn’t mean crap when you get to college.</p>
<p>Well. My experience before I came in was BC Calc in my junior year, and a survey course in DiffyQ and number theory. The latter wasn’t very deep, so my experience with proof wasn’t too great. The average experience of the class really ranges, you’ve got some kids who are incredibly familiar with proof and WILL do well on every test, and you’ve got kids who’ve never done the stuff before (like yours truly). </p>
<p>Yes, it is quite difficult to get used to, although the teacher did a great job trying to make it simpler by beginning with the basics of logic. At the same time, there was week early on where we were given a homework assignment which was composed completely of (basic) set theory proofs, and just told to prove certain conditions. We were supposed to figure out exactly what “proving” something meant, which was rough. That homework caused a third of the class to drop out…</p>
<p>The class takes a lot out of you, and it is as demanding as it claims to be (unless of course, you are familiar with proof). But I found it an awesome experience, and highly recommend you at least try it. There are quite a few kids who realize this isn’t what they want to do and drop out, so it’s not a big deal if you have a change of heart.</p>
<p>Unexpected: Getting a 44 on math test and actually feeling relieved. I was pretty good at math back in my high school, so coming here and getting rocked by the class was quite shocking.</p>
<p>Crazypianist1116, if you are interested in information about the difficulty of the double major including the music major, or in information about the difficulty of the academic music courses at Michigan, I recommend that you consider also posting those questions on the Music Major forum since there may be more people there who could answer any questions you have that are music-oriented.</p>
<p>I came in as a weak candidate and will likely leave this semester with a 3.8ish GPA intact</p>
<p>Good luck to you.</p>