<p>Rush only talks about how great he is. My husband and I listen to Savage but not when he talks about food etc.... And can you believe that my husband is a Berkeley man and I'm from Santa Cruz!</p>
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<p>You obviously don't listen to him.</p>
<p>And even when he does, it's schtick.</p>
<p>Zaphod,</p>
<p>Actually, we listen everyday at lunchtime. My husband is just bugged by his personality sometimes. He is definitely more polite to his callers that Savage is. Savage can be such a jerk sometimes to the callers. He needs to pet his dog a little more.</p>
<p>Well gosh, then, Mom! You oughta know better! :)</p>
<p>Yeah. I get turned off by Savage because he's WAY, WAY, WAY too harsh. It was the same for me with Bob Grant back in 1995 or so. While what he's saying is accurate (mostly), there is no need for that.</p>
<p>You just gotta take Rush's ego with a grain of salt. I suspect that I like him so much because we're the same: We can show one face to the public and quite another to those closest to us. Throw in a healthy dose of not taking yourself too seriously, and I can almost read his mind.</p>
<p>ETA: Oh, and Savage's Noo-YAWK accent drives me nucking futs, too, even if I did grow up in Queens. :D</p>
<p>He is awfully harsh sometimes. Remember, we live in Oregon and its so beyond the main stream that we are often at the end of our rope. However, at the end of a long day of work, he is sometimes difficult to take. His guest callers are often very good though.</p>
<p>I think I made it with Rush until about 2000 maybe 2001. Then I got tired of the constant bashing of everything. I still tune in to hear from time to time. Sometimes he is right, sometimes he is wrong. What is really annoying is his hypcritical standards, i.e. promoting family values and tough on crime when he is a participant in multiple marriages and drug additions.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, wish I could have developed the radio network that he has. You have to give him credit for that.</p>
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<p>People make mistakes. You don't see him preaching about single marriages, now do you?</p>
<p>I'm divorced, and I warn anyone who will listen (especially those with kids) not to travel down the road I went down. Does that make me a hypocrite, or simply someone who knows better now that he's been kicked in the teeth?</p>
<p>And as for tough on crime, what happened to him wasn't criminal. He got hooked after surgery, not because he went out to get stoned.</p>
<p>And to think, even on his pills and DEAF he was STILL able to be more effective than anyone else on the radio! I wish I had that much talent for ANYTHING.</p>
<p>Back to the original question - I actually like your suggested response - "so he can save your sorry ass" - in our case I can just say "Because our next door neighbor and three of my best friends were murdered on 9.11 and I'd sign up if they start taking 51-year olds"</p>
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Because our next door neighbor and three of my best friends were murdered on 9.11
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<p>Ouch. :(</p>
<p>Man, I only knew one person, and distantly at that, and it still hurts. I can't imagine having lost a neighbor or a family member. </p>
<p>Wow. :(</p>
<p>BigGreen, i understand and greatly sympathize with your pain of losing loved ones in your life. But this should only prove to you that the over 40,000 Iraqi civilians who have lost their life are as worth of our empathy and sympathy. These are unneccessary deaths just like how the 9/11 deaths were unnecessary. However, over 12 times the people have died in Iraq than on 9/11 and thats disregarding the new problems of starvation, homelessness, lack of basic neccessitites, and all the other consequences of foreign occupation. How do you guys think the people in Haditha feel about the 24 people in their town that were murdered when most were women and children. And the only reason this incident was reported was because it had been photographed by reporters. This is not an isolated incident. This is no kind of surprise to the Iraqis, it what happens on a daily basis. Check out the website below. The website is by Robert Fisk and he is one of the only Western jourrnalists in Iraq that is not embedded with the military. He is very well respected and has been covering events in the Mid East for 30 years. In fact, he has lived in the Mid East for 35 years now, although he is English. He reports daily on the atrocious events that occur in Iraq that are a result of the US occupation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.robertfisk.com%5B/url%5D">www.robertfisk.com</a></p>
<p>Cry me a river. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I would have loved to see you folks try this during WWII. You would have ended up in jail for providing aid and comfort to the enemy.</p>
<p>And back then, we were ACTIVELY targetting civilians.</p>
<p>You still are, plus IBC the place where you get the 40,000 number is drastically off. A more accurate estimate is 350 ,000. AB_MED don't bother telling them that this many people died. THEY ENJOY THAT. They have an utter disdain for anything that is non-American and non-Christian. They want to kill MORE civilians. When these people heard about Haditha they didn't know whether to demand an investigation or start masturbationg out of joy.</p>
<p>When there was a poll taken by Time Magazine 74 percent of people in the military believed that the U.S. was in the military to retaliate for Saddam's connections to 9-11. I thought that number was exaggerated, but after reading BigGreen's comment about 9-11 and enlisting to fight in the Iraq War it seems very accurate.</p>
<pre><code>I pity these fools for being so brainwashed that even simple facts such as the one that Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11 is beyong their IQ.
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<p>Of course C23 can't prove or disprove anything he says. Just the blathering of a 17-year old who has accomplished nothing. He has no credibility. He has nobody but the fools on this forum that will listen to him because anybody that actually knows him--how long has it been since you have been outside?--won't listen to him. [Oh yeah, the ad hominem attacks of an old fool.]</p>
<p>Incredible. As in without credibility.</p>
<p>Here's the part about the poll of American troops. <a href="http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075%5B/url%5D">http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075</a> It was also reported in the Time Magazine.</p>
<p>There's the part about Iraq having NO responsibility for 9-11 as if that wasn't a fact already. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11%2C_2001_attacks#Iraq%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11%2C_2001_attacks#Iraq</a></p>
<p>And BigGreen's comment is #108. Now what, Billy boy.</p>
<p>Bill0510.....what is it that confused23 cant prove? Everything he said in his post was a fact and completley accurate.</p>
<p>Frankly, confused comes off as a bit immature.....he obviously is well read for a teenager, but he doesn't seem to be able to put the pieces together. Perhaps its a cultural thing, I don't know. Some of the things he says are correct but its hard to tell if thats only because even a stopped clock is right twice a day. He certainly has a bad read on what it means to be a citizen and I would say a lot of his comments wouldn't "fly" even in Berkeley. Im going to chalk all this up to a bit of immaturity, and a slice of constipated thoughts mixed with a bit of diarrhea of the mouth.</p>
<p>From looking at his posts on other forums he seems to want to be a doctor---hopefully it isnt the kind that actually treats patients as one of his main criteria for finding an undergraduate school seems to be whether the school will "inflate" his grades enough to make him competitive for med school. I ran into that type in my undergrad years----they seldom make good doctors. Good luck to him anyway. Hopefully at his tender age he will take this as a learning experience and come to appreciate the American people and the sacrifices many of them make for his freedoms, mistakes or not.</p>
<p>You're using Wikipedia as your source of 'facts'???</p>
<p>Maybe you just haven't been on the internet too long, but Wikipedia is a free, public-influenced database. Anyone can go in there and add what they want. Nothing on that site should be taken as pure fact, unless you can verify it with a few (2 or more) other sources. And none of the other 'Wiki-' family of sites count either.</p>
<p>For all we know, you wrote whatever jibber-jabber that link leads to.</p>
<p>DMeix...The only fact that he referenced to Wikipedia was that Iraq had NO ties to 9/11. It is a fact. He didnt even have to provide a link. If you cannot register that as a fact, then you have unfortuanetly been subject to extremely high levels of propoganda.</p>
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The state-run Iraqi media praised the attacks but denied that Iraq was responsible...no link between the government of Iraq and the 9/11 attacks was ever found
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Former Sec. of State Colin Powell stated in 2003:
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Secretary of State Colin Powell presented the U.N. Security Council on
Wednesday with new intelligence alleging that Iraqi President Saddam
Hussein has been harboring the Baghdad cell of a global terrorist
network run by Abu Musab Zarqawi, a Jordanian-born Palestinian whom he
described as an "associate" of and "collaborator" with Osama bin Laden
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<p>Maybe the government wasn't supporting the terrorist activity, but they sure were giving them safe haven.</p>