<p>@ArbazAlam- Haha!</p>
<p>One caveat to all this is if you are applying to Mason Gross School of the Arts, the overwhelmingly top criteria is your audition performance/portfolio review. My daughter and her friend auditioned for Mason Gross, and both were accepted. My daughter likely would have qualified academically for Rutgers, but her friend certainly would not have. On this basis, there's no advantage to being from New Jersey.</p>
<p>I’m only a high school junior, but I’m looking to apply to Rutgers. (By the way, I haven’t taken the SAT, yet ;)</p>
<p>According to naviance (which is a web program in my school district, which lets students see their own scores, GPA, college profiles and how they rank to these colleges), these are the min requirements for getting into Rutgers, New Brunswick (2009):
GPA = 3.67
Combined SAT = 1858/2400
-recommended to write an essay and have teacher recomendations</p>
<p>You decide if Rutgers is still just a “lowly” school or not ;)</p>
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They’re both terrible schools, I’m sure. Rutgers merely has the name. I would go so far as to say all the schools in New Jersey are awful, sans Princeton. But being at Rutgers and hearing about how prestigious and wonderful it is and then actually experiencing it, I question whether Princeton is as great as it is.</p>
<p>Employer: Rutgers? Mmm.
Employer: TCNJ? Oh, cool… Is that like DeVry?</p>
<p>i wouldn’t say that they’re terrible…just certainly not top-tier. saying they’re terrible is a bit harsh.</p>
<p>Pepsitruck, what is it about Rutgers that you don’t like? =(</p>
<p>I mean, I have a couple of my “cons” about the school too, so don’t feel like I’m attacking you in any way.</p>
<p>There are many reasons why. We both see it all the time.</p>
<p>The bus cramming. The increase of graduate students as instructors. Bloated classroom sizes. “Beautifying the campus” while firing professors.</p>
<p>This upcoming academic year Rutgers is apparently accepting their largest freshmen class ever. Uhhh, didn’t they house people in hotels last year? I understand they need money, but aren’t they losing money by housing people in hotels, arranging for a bus to go there? It is as though every decision they make is purposely idiotic. It’s a frightening place to be an undergraduate.</p>
<p>Yeah, I have to agree with you. Those were a couple of my “cons” about Rutgers, although I wasn’t aware about the increase of graduate students teaching. That’s something new to me =</p>
<p>And the hotel problem . . . I still haven’t heard from housing. It was very VERY irresponsible (and greedy?) on Rutgers’ part to admit more students, knowing that more will accept, thus causing the housing overcrowding.</p>
<p>And did you read about this new makeover for College Avenue? I find it so unnecessary. There are so many other things you can spend money on than trying to update College Avenue . . . AND, now the students will suffer for the time being with the changes of the bus routes on College Avenue as a result of this new construction, as if George Street needs more busy traffic.</p>
<p>Yeah, okay. Rutgers does kind of suck and it looks like it is getting worse =</p>
<p>In my opinion, Rutgers is just a school that can provide a good education but nothing spectacular. You never hear of amazing research coming from Rutgers or any innovative programs (or maybe I’m reading the wrong books). Most of their ideas come simply from copying successful other schools.</p>
<p>In addition, they are focusing less and less on undergraduate education. Rutgers may have had budget cuts, but they still are getting tons of money from students. They just aren’t putting it to good use. In addition to what you said, don’t forget the “Visitors’ Center” they are building on Busch. Rutgers is so focused on “looking good” they forgot about their students and the quality of their education.</p>
<p>you guys make me wonder about my decision to attend rutgers because of the full ride as opposed to 53k/yr at cmu…</p>
<p>Are you in the honors program? If you are, they take care of you - don’t worry.</p>
<p>oh, yes. alrighty, that makes me feel a lot better, haha.</p>
<p>(school of engineering honors)</p>
<p>What do you mean “take care of you” if you’re an honors student?</p>
<p>Honestly though, I’d rather have a good TA who cares about his/her job than a grumpy, tenured old professor. I mean, at least within the math department, when TAs have their own course, they are usually the good TAs. The bad TAs just do recitations. I would rather take it with a good TA. Just because someone is a professor doesn’t mean they know how to teach. </p>
<p>I do agree that the hotel thing is a bit absurd though.</p>
<p>And zircushio, I think he means in terms of housing, professors, class size, research opportunities, and other such things, the honors program has advantages.</p>
<p>^ What do you mean by “the hotel thing”?</p>
<p>strawberrymilk: the “hotel thing” refers to the fact that there are some upperclassmen and transfer students who will be living at either the Holiday Inn or Crowne Plaza hotel (both in Somerset) as a result of Rutgers’ housing shortage. </p>
<p>That’s what happens when you admit a lot more freshmen, knowing that a LOT will enroll =</p>
<p>Wow that’s so pathetic and isn’t hotel costs exorbitant?! o_o</p>
<p>Its actually pretty easy to get into Rutgers…all you need is like above 3.0 and maybe like a 1600 SAT score. However, this is only for the School of Arts and Sciences. The pharmacy program and the business school are much more competitive and you definitely need a high GPA and SAT score to get in. Most people just go to Rutgers because its pretty much the only decent state school in NJ besides TCNJ. Its nothing great or wonderful.</p>
<p>TCNJ is a hard school to get into. Alot better then rutgers in my opinion(Except RU’s Pharmacy) I know some kids in my school who chose TCNJ over Northeastern,Boston U,Syracuse and uDel and many other top schools. Dont underestimate TCNJ…</p>
<p>Rutgers has the third best philosophy department in the WORLD, behind Oxford and in front of Princeton. We have a top 25 pharmacy program (not one ivy league has a pharmacy program). Getting in to Rutgers may be pretty easy, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t opportunities here.</p>
<p>The honors program is an absolute steal. Two of my professors have wikipedia pages, and because I’m in the honors section, I don’t even have TAs in those two classes. Not to mention the scholarships and AP credit policy. In all I’m probably saving $150k over a private school, which is important if I’m planning on going to grad school.</p>