<p>@oct2010</p>
<p>This is the last time I address you since it seems to bother you. A good quote from F. Scott Fitzgerald comes to mind</p>
<p>“Whenever you feel like criticizing any one,…
just remember that all the people in this world haven’t had
the advantages that you’ve had.”</p>
<p>@CalPolyEngineer - Thank you. I would also request that you refrain from using inflammatory language in which the campus’ attending students are depicted in such a distasteful way. </p>
<p>In regards to your quote, my husband is a first-generation college grad from a family that was far below the poverty line. Where he grew up, he was known as “trailor trash.” It took him many years to shake that feeling. Like you, he is an engineer. As an engineer, you’ll come out of college with a salary of $50,000 to $60,000. And, if you’re a guy like him, you won’t forget where you came from, but you won’t let it define you. You’ll want your kids to provided for and safe. </p>
<p>Hopefully, you’ve come to a better understanding of where I’m coming from and not feel like you have to “avoid me”. There are an awful lot of people like me and my family out there. With every best wish that you treat them with a better understanding. Good luck to you, CalPolyEngineer.</p>
<p>Oh come on otc2010, you are being a little dramatic don’t you think? This is a message board for college students, not a church message board lol</p>
<p>^Nope. No drama here. As a German, I get the whole Hitler-Jugend/Himmler summer camp reference. You might consider looking it up. I am hoping it was used for dramatic effect, but it’s offensive none the less. And, I’m atheist, btw.</p>
<p>What makes you think I didn’t get the reference?</p>
<p>CalPolyEngineer just seems really enthusiastic about Cal Poly Pomona. I don’t see why that calls for your rudeness otc2010</p>
<p>“FACT#8 I’m a 30 minute drive from the beach and go snowboarding and hiking to Big Bear lake… and still have time to drive back and study.” I used to live about 10 minutes from this campus. I don’t know what beach CalPolyEngineer found 30 minutes away, but they must have created a new one since I lived there; with no traffic it’s about 50 minutes- usually more with traffic. Snowboarding is at least 1 hour. </p>
<p>I did not go to school here- i actually graduated from the evil twin, SLO. However, everything I have seen about the program seems very comparable to the SLO campus. As an engineer who ended up working near the Pomona campus, we did recruit from the campus and found the graduates in engineering to be competent and well trained. The campus is pretty and well laid out and in a more agricultural area. However, it is considered by people who live in the area to be more of a commuter campus. There is no nearby area which is centered around the student life as in SLO which is very much a college town. It is extremely hot part of the year. There is not much to do in the area off-campus except if you like Raging Waters. There is hiking and a lake nearby- but definitely more of a commuter school!</p>
<p>^ true that. you’re absolutely right @takeitallin. it took me an hour to go to CPP from LAX -_-</p>
<p>@CalPolyEngineer:</p>
<p>Cal Poly is the mother university campus to begin with located in San Luis Obispo, California. Pomona was its branch until 1966, when it decided to break off from Cal Poly. Therefore it became the independent Cal Poly Pomona or its full official name, California State Polytechnic University. Cal Poly no longer have Pomona. There is no such thing as “Real” Cal Poly. Cal Poly is the “Cal Poly” to begin with. It is the California Polytechnic State University. Cal Poly is its name to begin with and is still its name. Pomona campus of Cal Poly is now the present, “Cal Poly Pomona” being its official shortened name. Therefore it is not Cal Poly. Cal Poly refers to the university in San Luis Obispo. So, no Cal Poly Pomona is not Cal Poly. Cal Poly is Cal Poly. Cal Poly Pomona is Cal Poly Pomona. This Cal Poly’s history, get it straight. Cal Poly Pomona has its own history now beginning when the campus became independent. I think the the Cal Poly Pomona needs to change its name to Pomona Poly or something, because it allowing Cal Poly in their name does bring confusion that it is also part of Cal Poly.</p>
<p>@adesigner,</p>
<p>So who’s allowing Cal Poly Pomona the right to Cal Poly name? You really think SLO has this discretion? CPP is an independent campus with Cal Poly already in it’s name. It’s up to them to continue calling themselves Cal Poly “choose a modifier” and is not subject to SLO’s opinion or vise versa. It’s Cal Poly Pomona; simple as that! We’ll never be Pomona Poly!</p>
<p>@Adesigner:</p>
<p>Why did you bump a year and a half old topic?
And why u mad?</p>
<p>This is how back in the 1950s UCLA chancellor Franklin David Murphy handled the bullies at Berkeley who prevented UCLA from establishing its identity:</p>
<p>“I picked up the telephone and called in from somewhere, and the phone operator said, ‘University of California.’ And I said, ‘Is this Berkeley?’ She said, ‘No.’ I said, ‘Well, who have I gotten to?’ ‘UCLA.’ I said, ‘Why didn’t you say UCLA?’ ‘Oh,’ she said, ‘we’re instructed to say University of California.’ So the next morning I went to the office and wrote a memo; I said, ‘Will you please instruct the operators, as of noon today, when they answer the phone to say, “UCLA.”’ And they said, ‘You know they won’t like it at Berkeley.’ And I said, ‘Well, let’s just see. There are a few things maybe we can do around here without getting their permission.’” [1]</p>
<p>[1] Ko, Amy (1999). “Caught on Tape: Voices from UCLA’s Past”. UCLA Today. Archived from the original on 2006-09-01. Retrieved 2008-01-25.</p>
<p>If Cal Poly SLO pretends to be an academic powerhouse, why does it take an anti-academic stance towards a fellow institution such as Cal Poly Pomona? Anyone?</p>
<p>It is call trademarking the brand and protecting its brand equity. </p>
<p>Cal Poly was first to market with the “Cal Poly” (san location name) brand, and it wants to protect it and retain the exclusive right to its usage. It is just business, nothing personal.</p>
<p>It is less of an identity issue than simply protecting a “corporate” and educational brand name. </p>
<p>Look, it is very simple, if CPP were to become a top 10 national academic institution and Cal Poly SLO were to remain what it is today, I am sure either CPP will either change its name entirely to avoid confusion with a lesser university like Cal Poly, or it will pressure Cal Poly to modify its name. But since Cal Poly owns the trademark, the former option will be more likely.</p>
<p>^You seem like a reasonable and smart individual, and I do realize the importance of branding for a college or university (which still doesn’t make it anti-academic and borderline “boosterist”) but I get it “tough life”. Yes CPSLO has been dominant in its respective rankings for the last 2 decades, but CPSLO vs CPP is not UT-Austin vs UT-Arlington or Michigan-Ann Arbor vs Michigan-Flint like they (CPSLO Public affairs) make it seem.</p>
<p>CPSLO is a great school, but you have to recognize that CPP has been catching up quickly under President Ortiz who has been in charge since 2002, and who seems to realize the importance of external support (like President Baker did for Cal Poly SLO for decades, Spanos Stadium, Orfalea Business, etc.). CPP launched a capital campaign that will raise its endowment over $100 million, 14 out of 63 majors are impacted (only 1 was three years ago), admission GPAs and SATs are at an all-time-high, student housing has and will continue to expand. If you check the number of post here on College Confidential that CPP had prior to 2008… well, it was a ghost town, but not anymore. People are just a tad bit more interested to see what CPSLO’s little brother has to offer.</p>
<p>We respect and recognize CPSLO, the gift of “learn by doing”, the legacy of Myron Angel and William McPhee… just don’t be jerks and mean to us, and forget that the “other Cal Poly” is “Cal Poly enough” to build half of the yearly Rose Parade float that STILL reads on its side:</p>
<p>“Cal Poly Universities”</p>
<p>May be it is not apparent to those that actually attend Cal Poly, but we, at SLO, don’t feel any animosity toward CPP. Or do we detect that the administration is outright on a war path against CPP.</p>
<p>So as a student, I don’t know why there is so much angst in CPP against SLO, and why CPP felt so slighted.</p>
<p>CPP actually never comes up in any of our discourse on or off campus. The only time that CPP comes up in a conversation is the Rose Float. That’s it. And not too many of us are involved in that project. Our respective universities are both separate and distinct and really have limited interaction. </p>
<p>Given the impersonal nature between CP and CPP, it seems the only conflict that might arise is really over the trademark issue. Cal Poly does not see CPP as an academic rival, or a rival in any other sense.</p>
<p>“…we, at SLO, don’t feel any animosity toward CPP”.</p>
<p>[Google[/url</a>]</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-bet-Cal-Poly-SLO-can-get-more-fans-than-Cal-Poly-Pomona/398549866809]I”>http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-bet-Cal-Poly-SLO-can-get-more-fans-than-Cal-Poly-Pomona/398549866809]I</a> bet Cal Poly SLO can get more fans than Cal Poly Pomona | Facebook](<a href=“Google”>Google)</p>
<p>[Pomona</a>? No, I go to the REAL Cal Poly | Facebook](<a href=“Facebook Public Group | Facebook”>Facebook Public Group | Facebook)</p>
<p>[Cal</a> Poly Pomona or SLO? - Cyburbia | Urban Planning Community](<a href=“http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42692]Cal”>http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42692)</p>
<p>[TheEEStory.com:</a> Dick Weir from Cal Poly, POMONA?!](<a href=“http://www.theeestory.com/topics/3288]TheEEStory.com:”>http://www.theeestory.com/topics/3288)</p>
<p>Nice try.</p>
<p>Perfect. You illustrated my point PRECISELY! </p>
<p>Every single one of the link you provided is either created by or commented on by people who are NO LONGER associated with Cal Poly (i.e. Alumni who have too much time on their hands, or random self proclaimed Cal Poly “grads”). Find me the hate coming directly from CP???</p>
<p>Not a single piece of information you provided came directly from current students or our administration. </p>
<p>People off the street say terrible things just about anything or any school. Cal Poly is also a receiver of these verbal barrages, no different from CPP.</p>
<p>So unless you provide information that are sourced from Cal Poly current students or administration, the point is moot. I can find you trolls flaming Cal Poly in countless posts here in CC, all of which I deem neither here nor there.</p>
<p>“Find me the hate coming directly from CP???”</p>
<p>ahm…</p>
<p>you</p>
<p>Come on, that’s just lazy. And really, I am completely indifferent toward CPP.</p>
<p>Hate is a strong word, it requires a lot of effort. I just don’t have that kind of time or energy for an issue I am indifferent about.</p>
<p>@ BeingSLO,
I too think you’re a reasonable and smart individual and appreciate your input on this subject. However, may I remind you that it was Adesinger, whom I am assuming to be an SLO student, that revived this 1.5 year old thread by trying to deny Pomona of the CP title. I also sense a bit of elitism by claiming that SLO does not view Pomona as a rival in any sense. I beg to differ on this point and acknowledge the common history, majors and philosophies that the two campuses share. I would say Pomona and SLO probably have the largest pool of common applicants than almost any two campuses (other than Cal and UCLA). I would also like to clarify that there are many Pomona students that also got accepted to SLO but chose otherwise for reasons such as location, diversity, philosophies and employment opportunities. In short, I think the two campuses have a lot more in common than you think, and to shrug off Pomona and put SLO on a pedestal wreaks of snobbery. A bit of rivalry is healthy for the two campuses.</p>