And only large metro areas? Come one? Many folks,who post on CC live in smaller towns not near the big cities you named.
Guess you don’t really want a representative sample…you just want folks from large metro areas…and judging from your chosen forums…you are targeting folks from elite schools.
Apparently the south doesn’t seem to be needed in the representative sample either, as was mentioned above. Understand that budgets may affect where to go to get the highest concentration of attendees, but really, it will skew the perception of CC from what it really is- and feed the inaccurate perception that this is a forum just for top students targeting the top colleges.
I have to say that the filming locations are weird, notably leaving out areas that probably have the most CC participants (New England, the Pacific Northwest, the Southeast, TX, SoCal, the entire midwest) in favor of Salt Lake City and Las Vegas? HongKong and Vietnam but not Singapore or India or mainland China?
I get the impression that this is one of those enterprises where the “reporters” have predetermined the result they want in advance and will interview solely to confirm that.
So there seems to be a lot of questions and suspicion about the project, and I’d love to clear this up (and answer any more questions that people might have).
This thread was crossposted to multiple forums in an honest attempt to reach out to students and parents who might be interested in being interviewed. I understand that the multiple posts could be taken as spam, which was not the intent, and am talking to the moderators about this concern. Additionally, this was not a malicious attempt to exclude people applying to a diverse range of schools, and I would always appreciate any advice people have on reaching out to a broad spectrum of students.
This documentary is a student research project, funded by the University Scholars Program at the University of Pennsylvania. As much as I would love to film in all areas of the country, I don’t have the resources to do so. The current filming locations are places where I already have commitments to film. I don’t have the budget to come to film one person; However, if several people were in the same geographic area and wished to participate in the film, then I’d be delighted to film anywhere in the country.
Those who appear in the film do not receive compensation. This is an educational documentary, not a narrative drama.
The project is not in any way affiliated with Hobsons.
HappyPapaya Films takes its work seriously, but not itself seriously.
Finally, while a film showcasing the many lesser-known colleges that offer fantastic educations and opportunities for students would be very worthwhile, that is not this project. This is a film is about how College Confidential has affected your experience of the admissions process.
I hope that this was helpful, and I’d love to answer any more questions people have about the film. I appreciate all of your commitments to this topic and getting a rounded view of CC, and I’d be delighted to interview any of you who would like to talk on camera.
Since you are in Philadelphia, perhaps you should post your query on the forums for Haverford, Swat, and Bryn Mawr. Or Temple.
Perhaps by interviewing people who chose elite LACs instead of just those who chose universities you would find out more about how CC affected their admission process in terms of fit, for example.
Until the kid graduates from college, I’m not sure most posters are qualified to say whether the advice they got was good or bad. Without admissions in hand and a certainty that the school worked out, I have no idea how you could glean anything useful from the interviews.
^This. So many posters have a tiny top heavy sliver of colleges in mind when they first post out here. CC at its best helps them see more possibilities. Also helps them see the realities – teaches them to find Common Data Sets, net price calculators, and resources like Fiskes.
This is a tough crowd indeed. Although I happen to think that the overwhelming number of similarly funded projects are a waste of someone’s money, I have to make an exception here. This movie deserves to be made but hardly the one that has been presented. I fully understand that the funding was obtained based on your typical overpromising “scenario” and will be different from its proposal.
What are the chances that a series of interviews would lift the veil on how CC has changed lives? To answer this with a modicum of realism (as opposed to pure BS and wishful thinking by teenagers) one should go back … more than a decade and attempt to track down the people who helped this community become what it is today (well better stated what it was until a couple of seasons ago when it took a turn for the worse) and follow THEIR history. Asking people “what happened” in the past 12-36 months is a exercise of futility because the jury is still out.
On the other hand, a bit of research on terns such as “Yale’s debacle of 2003” and following the stories of students who survived the ED guillotine to find places where they truly blossomed would provide an interesting background. Same for the student who was crushed by Harvard only to use Chicago as springboard to a Rhodes scholarship.
A narrower focus increases the chances of actually having a story worth telling. Otherwise, it will be mostly an Amy Chua redux without the laughable angle.
PS I second the statement that an approval or vetting by CC is hardly an endorsement or a seal of quality if history is a guide.
The only way CC “changed our lives” was that a former member her actually recommended Santa Clara University for us to look at for our DD. we had never heard of the school (we are from the opposite coast). It was the perfect fit…had everything DD wanted. And that is where DD got her undergrad degrees. OH…and her first instrument teacher in college was also a former CC member!
I don’t think you need to put me in a movie to provide that info!
Now for me…I have some IRL friends now who were first invisible friends on CC.
Wow tough crowd…
Now that we know it’s an academic project, and not a professional stint put on by CC, I say these kids have the right to portray whatever angle they prefer - it is their project. There are hundreds of topics one could portray about this website, good and bad, and they picked one of interest to them. Why is everyone jumping down the throats of some poor college kids (you know, the audience that CC was created to support…) just trying to do their honors project?
I don’t disagree Cameron. Students can make whatever film they want, good, bad, or indifferent. It’s just that OP ran up against a few of CC’s sorts who can see the pothole here: what the heck can high school kids say about how CC changed their admissions perspective? The few who replied don’t seem to have even applied yet. And they’re not among our few who have impressed adults with their approach. And there is so much confusion, as it is, with kids telling each other to cure cancer or start a club to get a title or not to cure cancer because it will look like padding. haha. Even a kid who got into target schools probably doesn’t know why. So we end up with: CC told me to find safeties and run NPCs.
I agree LF, but again, I come back to the fact that it’s their project, so if the results end up being not-so-insightful, what is the harm done? These kids are just trying to get their capstone done.
Wait, if such a “useless” (as defined by comments in this forum) project could be perpetrated by honors students at an ivy league school and APPROVED by faculty at the same, can we conclude that elite education in this country is a sham???
They have a right to produce a hackneyed piece of the usual sort: as @Xiggi says, " Amy Chua redux." But since they asked us to participate, we are participating: we are giving them our best advice, whether it is welcome or not. That is, in fact, the CC experience in the Parents Forum. If the OP wants to go off and produce the usual thing that portrays everyone here as elite-school maddened cardboard characters, have at it. They have the opportunity to do something deeper and more valuable.
Gosh, I guess I just assume that they are striving for excellence. Silly me.
The opportunity to do shoddy work is always there.