<p>IU's business school, Kelley, is consistently ranked around the top 10 in all of the undergrad business school rankings.</p>
<p>Yet if you look at every other school that is near IU's rank, they are all much more difficult to get into, and have much less students. I'm talking about places like Cornell, Penn, Michigan, UC Berkeley, Carnegie, and NYU. On top of that, the actual business school within those universities is tougher to get into than the university itself.</p>
<p>But Kelley has like 5000 students, while all the other good business schools have at most, half of that. And all you need to do to get into Kelley as a direct admit is have a 3.7 GPA and a 30 ACT or 1270 SAT. At all those other schools, you're lucky to even get in to the university with those stats. </p>
<p>So how is Kelley so good if it takes in way more students with lower stats than any other top business school?</p>
<p>At my high school, which is in Indiana, it's a running joke that all you need to get in to IU is a pulse. Meanwhile, schools like Penn have 10% acceptance rates, yet are just a couple spots away from IU in the business school rankings.</p>
<p>First, you have to remember that Kelley is a four year program so the enrollment numbers have to be adjusted if you’re comparing it with 2-3 year programs. It’s still a very large undergraduate business school though. </p>
<p>Michigan’s interquartile range ACT score is 28-32. UC-Berkeley is 27-33. That’s certainly higher than IU, but right on the sweetspot for Direct Admission to Kelley. Also keep in mind that the 30/1270 in Kelley are really minimum scores. The averages are higher. </p>
<p>Depends on what you want. Kelley is one of the top public schools for Business you can find. True, that some colleges have overall higher entrance, but you won’t find a program with more rigor at both campuses, Bloomington or Indianapolis. The basic criteria, curriculum and 12 credit ICore are the real deal at both locations. </p>
<p>Look at placement percentages, Internships by percentage and who they get those positions with. Additionally, if you are an Indiana kid, the ROI is something you should consider.</p>
<p>Entrance criteria overall to IU is lower because it is a State school. Entrance to Kelley isn’t that easy. Staying there isn’t either. That pulse you mentioned quickens just a little. Check it out.</p>
<p>That’s the question you should look into, how come Kelley still rank among top 10 when it has like 5000 students.</p>
<p>Everyone knows IU’s overall ranking is low, and it could due to many reasons;</p>
<ul>
<li>IU has a high acceptance rate which is around 70%.</li>
<li>It locates at Indiana.</li>
<li>A state public school</li>
</ul>
<p>I would say it’s not difficult to get into IU, but it provides amazing education, an A school for B students.
Same as Kelley, it’s definitely slightly easier to get into compares to other top 10 B schools, but the education is worth the name.
Especially if you’re an in state students, great education with that little amount of money. </p>
<p>If you’re are looking for those big name schools, you shouldn’t consider IU at all.</p>
<p>btw, since IU is a public school, don’t expect people around you to be all that smart.</p>
<p>Honestly, it’s just very confusing. Kelley is ranked so much higher than IU in general I don’t know if there is another situation like this anywhere. My son was accepted to UMich and Kelley and as much as he is in love with UMich he is seriously considering Kelley.</p>
<p>Some Universities have renowned Charters for individual schools. This happens especially in public schools. Employers love Kelley at both campuses because the curriculum is rigorous , real world and geared toward results. Because of the accessibility to IU, there is a mix of overachievers and gifted students. Sometimes the overachievers push the gifted folks in positive ways, and vice versa.</p>
<p>Don’t be fooled though. There is a rather substantial number of kids that go into Kelley, but end up in a different school in the University. </p>
<p>Competitive and successful in a straight forward way.</p>
<p>This gives you a great flavor of why Kelley is the way they are. The Dean discusses Kelley at both campuses and what makes Kelley special to her.</p>
<p>I’m really just trying to figure out if going to Kelley for cheap is worth missing out on another university like, say, Michigan or NYU that have highly ranked business schools just like IU but on a whole, are much better overall.</p>
<p>I mean, let’s be honest, pretty much anyone can get into IU. Their acceptance rate is like 80%. Pretty much anyone can get into Kelley as well. The direct admit requirement is relatively low, and I’ve heard that you’re practically guaranteed admission into Kelley as an IU sophomore as long as you didn’t get a C your freshman year.</p>
<p>I go to an Indiana high school, and as a result I stay connected with lots of people who go to IU, and the gist of what they say is that the halls are filled with mediocrity. I hope it doesn’t extend to Kelley.</p>
<p>So, It seems you are not getting the feeling (or the connection) that even though the general University is Public. The Kelley School is number 1 with recruiters and is in the top 15 for ALL schools (both campuses) for Business, including Ivy and Private. Kelley is a community. </p>
<p>And you are in-state and maybe can get scholarships to carry you through.</p>
<p>Being recruited out of college is the goal after all. </p>
<p>There have been posts to respond to you accordingly.</p>
<p>You should go to Michigan or NYU, it seems to be your perspective. </p>
<p>Here is a list of the most recent top ten (Businessweek) ugrad business schools schools ranked by the average composite SAT CR+M scores of the business school’s students. </p>
<p>School CR+M %rank
Olin WU 1480 98<br>
Wharton Penn 1466 98
Mendoza ND 1419 96
Dyson Cornell 1414 96
McIntire UVA 1390 95
Emory 1375 95
Carroll BC 1358 94
Kelley Blmgt campus 1357 94
Kenan-Flagler UNC 1356 94
McCombs UT 1353 93</p>
<p>The average Kelley Bloomington student is the same or within one or two percentage points of the average student at schools ranked from #3 through #10 nationally. The top two schools in SAT and the rankings overall are 1). Mendoza (cost of attendance 2014-15: $62,461) and McIntyre UVA (679 students; good luck getting in OOS).</p>
<p>Don’t look at the size of Kelley as a negative. Kelley has awesome investment banking, consulting, and management workshops and other advantages related to its student body size. The Kelley student average SAT/ACT is about 90 points higher than the minimum 270 SAT/30 ACT. With so many talented students to draw on at Kelley, it is not surprising that Kelley is so highly ranked among recruiters. </p>
<pre><code> I’m currently a sophomore in Kelley, and was a Direct Admit my freshman year. While I agree that IU isn’t particularly difficult to get into on its own, Kelley and other programs have somewhat rigorous requirements for admission. You mentioned the minimum requirements for Direct Admission and the freshman grade requirements. I often find that the people in Kelley are typically well above this average. I do agree at times gen-ed business classes may give off a very mediocre feel and occasionally you run into students that might not give the best impression of Kelley (I personally think this is a maturity thing).
However, Kelley is still ranked #1 by employers (above all of the schools you previously listed, as previously mentioned), and top companies consistently look at IU for employees. Kelley is constantly trying to innovate and continue the environment of a top 10 business school with the introduction of an international business program, sustainable business program, and ICORE before most other business schools. I also think that the number of students in Kelley who then graduate will benefit you greatly as you have a much larger network of successful Kelley grads. If you feel Kelley isn’t the right school for you that’s understandable, but suggesting it might not be one of the best public business schools in the country I believe would be incorrect.
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<p>Obviously, you already think Kelley (and IU as a whole) is beneath you, so why bother going? I know plenty of Kelley grads who are living and working in LA, DC, NYC, SF, and Chicago for great Fortune 500 companies. I don’t think that’s particularly mediocre</p>
<p>College is a hell of a lot different than high school–those people who barely squeak by and get in tend to self-select out and end up back home. </p>
<p>Everything here is reassuring. I came looking to find out if Kelley was full of smart people, and the impression I got is is that yes, Kelley is an environment bustling with bright minds. The in-state tuition + scholarships totally make it a great deal.</p>