<p>Just curious how many students from the WTP 2006 summer program applied and made it to MIT class of 2011. The MIT blog says it's a great program, I guess the proof is in the pudding :-)</p>
<p>Does the program encourage students to apply to MIT? If they apply do they actually make it at a higher rate than others? I would like to hear from the WTP students, any anecedotal statistics you can provide would be great.</p>
<p>judging by an email we got in april.. i would say around 30 out of 60 got in this year. i think the numbers were around 60, 70, and nearly 80% in the past though (we had a MIT college night where an admissions officer talked to us during dinner). either way, its a lot better than 14% or whatever the last stats were about MIT admissions.</p>
<p>Thanks cjreyda. When you were in the WTP program did the admissions people encourage you to apply? Do you know if the admissions staff and the WTP staff interact at all?
You mentioned an email in april, what was it about? Any other useful information for future applicants (my sister) to the WTP program? Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>they definitely encouraged us to apply (and i think most of us did). i think if the admissions staff and WTP staff interact, its just through personal acquaintances... but don't quote me on that. however, we DID get personal "supplemental" recommendations written collaboratively by the tutors, instructors, and director sent to the colleges of our choice. the email in april was just a follow-up email after MIT's Campus Preview Weekend so i figured they only emailed the people who were accepted to MIT. and my advice would be to definitely apply for the program! but also have backups just in case she doesn't make it (my older sister was rejected so i didn't think i would make it myself).. i think going to summer camps for 4 summers in a row was half of what got me into college. hope that helps.</p>
<p>Hey! I attended WTP '06, and our program director gave us the numbers, so here they are:</p>
<p>There were 60 total girls - 40 from EECS and 20 from the then-pilot program, ME:</p>
<p>For EA, 12 girls total got in (9 from EECS, 3 from ME)</p>
<p>For RA, 18 were accepted and 18 were denied. 4 were waitlisted. </p>
<p>When I attended, I remember they told us that for WTP '05, out of 37 girls who applied, 31 got in - roughly 80% admitted. So I was actually quite surprised that relatively few of us were admitted.</p>
<p>The 2006 and 2007 numbers indicate a large percentage (50-80%) of the women attending WTP in summer end up in MIT the following year. </p>
<p>What might be the main reason for this? Should future applicants to the WTP program make note of this or this was just a coincidence? Also, noting that the percentage went down significantly between 2006 and 2007. May be it would come down to 25% or below in 2008.</p>
<p>zimmywu: Watch your conflation of correlation and causation. Remember, WTP applicants go through a rigorous, selective admissions process that's selecting for some of the same things that MIT Admissions selects for in its undergrads. So it's not surprising that one would get into both. And then, there may be some causal factor as well - WTP is a very rigorous engineering program that reflects very well on students who complete it, so it makes sense that it would be a plus on an application.</p>
<p>Based on scooby's numbers, WTP 06 still did pretty well - it looks like 30/52 who applied got in, which is kicking the ass of something like a 12-13% overall admit rate. There could be any number of reasons for this percentage being lower than in past years, including the program experiencing growing pains - with the addition of WTP-ME, the number of girls in the program expanded by 50%.</p>
<p>You say, "WTP applicants go through a rigorous, selective admissions process that's selecting for some of the same things that MIT Admissions selects for in its undergrads". Do you know what are some of the same things both admission committees might be looking for besides GPA, APs etc.? Thanks for any information that might be useful to future applicants.</p>
<p>i think they look less at the numbers/scores and more at interest/promise and you as a person. something to take note of, however, is that if you have a good background in the areas already offered (as seen by high school classes taken, etc.), then the program is not for you since it is to introduce high school students to those areas, and assume zero knowledge in those areas (classes start at the basics)</p>
<p>tennisgirl08 is right about her second point (regarding her first, they do want you to have strong scores, because they want to make sure you're capable of doing the work, which starts at the beginning but moves at a very rapid pace). WTP doesn't want girls who are already engineering shoe-ins, it wants smart girls who are on the fence about engineering or who have never had the chance to learn about it. I've had several friends work as tutors (who are also the application readers) for WTP, and I've heard them talk about this. I've also seen actual WTP application evalutation sheets that the readers fill out, because I applied to be a tutor.</p>
<p>But they are selecting for overall smarts, emotional resilience (after all, the WTP girls are going through material in fields that are new to them at a very fast pace), work ethic/dedication (those girls work HARD), some self-sufficiency (the tutors will help, but they won't do your work for you or debug your project for you) and creativity/initiative, all of which MIT also selects for.</p>
<p>you're absolutely right, jessiehl. but when i said that they look less at numbers/scores, i meant that you don't have to have super competitive scores...you don't need all scores above 750 or whatnot to be admitted. i know of two girls who had a subject test score in the upper 600s who went my year, so the score range is wide. you won't be killed right away with a 680 or something, but you better well show aptitude and strength in science/math some other way (APs, science/math activities, other high scores, essays) if you want to stay competitive in the pool, as many others have high scores.</p>
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I don't think it's a question of "weighing" the scores, per se... I think it's more that for most people applying to MIT, their math scores are higher than their verbal scores, which makes sense, since MIT is a math school... it would be a little weird to apply if you were absolutely terrible at math. So the scale is different, not the weight - if that makes sense.</p>
<p>Just curious, did anyone from WTP 2007 apply EA to MIT. Are the WTP instructors providing you a good recommendation letter? Can that recommendation letter be a substitute for the required Math/Science teacher recommendation?</p>
<p>PAM! I don't know if you'll even read this since your post was like 2 months ago... but I just wanted to say that I miss you.. and everyone else so much! (it's Meghan btw if you forgot this s/n) Oh and zimmy, I went to WTP 2007 and am applied EA to MIT. The recommendation letter is just a supplemental letter-- you still need the math/science teacher one.</p>
<p>Do you get to see the supplemental letter? Also, how was your WTP experience? Does the program help you get more comfortable with MIT? Do you have any interaction (during WTP) with the admissions office?</p>
<p>no, you do not get to see the supp rec...I didn't even know who wrote it until I requested it to be sent. WTP was awesome and made me want to apply to MIT (honestly I wasn't sure if I was going to apply to MIT before the summer). we had one afternoon where we went in and talked to the admissions office, but that was about it.</p>